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Hi All am new to the site and building a gaming machine. iv got the Asus Striker Extreme LGA775 mobo and was considering the Intel Coreā„¢ 2 Duo E7300 2,66GHz, Socket 775, 3MB, 1066MHz processor.
i was just wondering is this a good choice or is there a better recommendation.

Thanks
John

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Guess it all depends on other components of your setup(especially gfx card and amount of ram) as you dont want to bottleneck yor system in any way.Your budget is also relevant, so be more specific.

Reply to MaDMagik

I would suggest going for the e8x00 (4/5/6) as the higher cache and clock speeds will be better for gaming, but as Magik said, we need to know your budget and othe components.

Reply to mi1ez

Thanks for the replies. the full system spec is

Asus Striker Extreme, nForce-680i SLI, S-775 DDR2
EVGA GeForce 9400GT 1GB DDR2 Graphics Card (Clock Speed 550 MHz
OCZ Platinum DDR2 2GB PC6400 XTC, CL4-5-4-15 800MHz 2.1V
Cooler Master Real Power M 620W Power Supply

the budget for the processor would be about 150euro/200 USD

Reply to kudz

O no...

 

Sorry man, but you got raped on the graphics card. Not even the 9800GTX can effectively use 1GB of VRAM.

 

But, with such a low-end GPU, unless you plan on upgrading to a gaming-level card soon, I would go with the E7300 or perhaps even an E5200.

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Reply to B-Unit

B-Unit wrote :

O no...

Sorry man, but you got raped on the graphics card. Not even the 9800GTX can effectively use 1GB of VRAM.

But, with such a low-end GPU, unless you plan on upgrading to a gaming-level card soon, I would go with the E7200 or perhaps even an E5200.



Good advice. 680i can't handle high fsb. An E5200, which runs at low fsb and high multiplier, will be a better fit than something like e8200, which runs on high fsb and low multiplier.

Reply to dagger

+9999999! E5200 FTW! even at 240mhz fsb it can hit 3.0ghz! overclocking ONLY limited by voltage, heat and the cpu!

the less variables (motherboard, RAM etc) to consider, the better overclock!

Reply to V3NOM

B-Unit wrote :

O no...

Sorry man, but you got raped on the graphics card. Not even the 9800GTX can effectively use 1GB of VRAM.

But, with such a low-end GPU, unless you plan on upgrading to a gaming-level card soon, I would go with the E7200 or perhaps even an E5200.



thanks guys.... im slightly confused now :??: :cry: :cry:

what card would be recommended as a "gaming-level" card.... i will be looking to upgrade to one of these yet i still want a half decent processor... maybe a Q6600? or something similar

dont no if i want to stick to Core 2 Duo?

any feedback would be gratefully appreciated

Thanks
John

Reply to kudz

Depends what games you want to play and how much you want to spend. I would start with a 3870 or 9600GT for around $100, 8800/9800GT between $100 and $150, and a 4850 at $150 and up.

Worry not, any Intel processor you get that is based on the Core architecure is going to be 'half decent' at any speed over and including 2.6Ghz for at least a couple more years.

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Reply to B-Unit

thanks B-Unit helps alot, think i will just go for the Q6600 cpu and will wait for a while for the new graphics card...

Reply to kudz

core i7 is coming out in two weeks. wait till then and prices of current Core 2 Quads will drop and you can have more money for a vga.

Reply to aeiouandxyz

aeiouandxyz wrote :

core i7 is coming out in two weeks. wait till then and prices of current Core 2 Quads will drop and you can have more money for a vga.


i agree with aeiouandxyz, i would wait a few weeks

Reply to wahjahka

well if your cashing out on a striker extreme grab a high end cpu like e8400/e8500. if you want to save some money buy a cheap P45 and an e5200 :)

Reply to V3NOM

+1 for v3nom.

An e7300 with a striker extreme is just wrong.

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Reply to habitat87

ordered the Q6600 in the end seems to be the best way to go, thanks for all the advice guys :)

Reply to kudz

habitat87 wrote :

+1 for v3nom.

An e7300 with a striker extreme is just wrong.



The so-called "striker extreme" is Asus's way of finding the bright side of 680i. :na:

Use forum search function for "680i q6600 2.8ghz" and it'll give you a list of people stuck at 2.8ghz.

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Message edited by dagger on 11-11-2008 at 02:34:12 AM
Reply to dagger

I suggest a Quad Core. My Q6600 is doing great so far, and it is running at 3.4 GHz.

Think of it this way: With a Quad Core you can always OC to get more MHz but you can't add more core's to a Dual Core CPU.

Reply to tehlexinator

Sure tehlexinator, keep telling yourself that. LOL! You got it totally mixed up. There's like a few instances where the quad really shines. Such as 3d and professional editing, but these are at stock speeds and just a few. Show me other benefits of quad core to justify that duals aren't better right now. And with the price counterpart dual, you can always OC more than that quad.

Quad?! Why? The e8400 trades performance scores with that quad. It overclocks higher and cost a little less.

At least you didn't spend money on a higher quad. Well, have fun with that. I'm not saying it's a bad cpu.

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Reply to habitat87

um guy with the weird name ^^, duals will overclock further than quads. fact. duals produce a lot less heat (obviously) and are monolithic instead of two duals stuck together..

theres just no need for a quad unless you're an impatient photoshopper, l0ol

Reply to V3NOM

habitat87 wrote :

Sure tehlexinator, keep telling yourself that. LOL! You got it totally mixed up. There's like a few instances where the quad really shines. Such as 3d and professional editing, but these are at stock speeds and just a few. Show me other benefits of quad core to justify that duals aren't better right now. And with the price counterpart dual, you can always OC more than that quad.

Quad?! Why? The e8400 trades performance scores with that quad. It overclocks higher and cost a little less.

At least you didn't spend money on a higher quad. Well, have fun with that. I'm not saying it's a bad cpu.



V3NOM wrote :

um guy with the weird name ^^, duals will overclock further than quads. fact. duals produce a lot less heat (obviously) and are monolithic instead of two duals stuck together..

theres just no need for a quad unless you're an impatient photoshopper, l0ol



Gaming performance of duals vs quads. Out of 5 games, 2 are highly multithreaded, 3 are not.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] 600_8.html

Reply to dagger

dagger wrote :

The so-called "striker extreme" is Asus's way of finding the bright side of 680i. :na:

Use forum search function for "680i q6600 2.8ghz" and it'll give you a list of people stuck at 2.8ghz.


that was me, i had a 680i couldnt get past 2.7 with my q6600, so im getting a gigabyte ep45-ud3p

Reply to wahjahka

How do you know that's not from the larger cache? Of course they like larger caches, what's the point in that review again?

And omg, a 1.2 ghz oc for the quad, but they barely oc the dual? Seriously, that has market scheme benchmark written all over it.

Edit: I am really starting to get annoyed by people that are giving me a negative point without explaining. They must have a quad. Don't worry, everybody's got one. The idiots that can't explain why they have one at least...


Message edited by habitat87 on 11-13-2008 at 04:52:51 PM
Reply to habitat87

Alright, here's your damn proof. I put this in other thread also.

Here's the chart of cache making a difference in only a 1,2 and 4 meg configuration @2.4 ghz. Notice how the benchmark on lame are the same.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 709-6.html

Now here some other benchmarks of the q6600 and e6850 configuration with different speeds. 3.0, 3.3, and 3.6 ghz.

Notice how on the lame benchmarks they are exactly even.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 20-31.html

Now, you will notice that throughout the benchmarks and comparisons they show similar patterns according to this.

Of course once you start to oc, the diffferences are more apparent. Looking at these benchmarks, it really narrows down to what the performance difference between overclocking and having more cache is.

Reply to habitat87

To the OP. I will give you this advice. It is very sound. Because I said so. if you plan to upgrade your pC within 1-2 years go with a high clocked dual.

but if you plan to keep your machine for 3-4 years then go with a quad and OC it.

Heed my advice as multithreaded gaming is coming very soon. And if it is done properly then no matter how much more a dual can OC a quad will beat it. There is plenty of prrof everywhere in games that properly support more than one core.

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Reply to jimmysmitty

But can possibly be made up by the oc of the dual... I'm not trying to assume anything here. That's an educated and obvious guess atm.

If running a quad at 1.55v trying to play catch up to the dual, which it never will btw, is fine with you, then get it. By the time quad is ready, I can guarantee you, it will be so much cheaper by then anyways. Yeah, it is coming soon "supposively", but your pretending like ghz and raw speed isn't a factor anymore. That's like computers 101 isn't it? No really, no sarcasm there either.

Pfft, yeah, like the benchmark you showed me wasn't biased or anything about the oc'ing... The biggest part of the performance gain was from overclocking, so that's obviously bs too. How the... If it's done properly? It's coming very soon? LOL! Your assuming and expecting too much at the same time to for that to be good advice.

Reply to habitat87

jimmysmitty wrote :

To the OP. I will give you this advice. It is very sound. Because I said so. if you plan to upgrade your pC within 1-2 years go with a high clocked dual.

but if you plan to keep your machine for 3-4 years then go with a quad and OC it.

Heed my advice as multithreaded gaming is coming very soon. And if it is done properly then no matter how much more a dual can OC a quad will beat it. There is plenty of prrof everywhere in games that properly support more than one core.



That's exactly right.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core2quad-q6600/lp-2.png

habitat87 wrote :

But can possibly be made up by the oc of the dual... I'm not trying to assume anything here. That's an educated and obvious guess atm.

If running a quad at 1.55v trying to play catch up to the dual, which it never will btw, is fine with you, then get it. By the time quad is ready, I can guarantee you, it will be so much cheaper by then anyways. Yeah, it is coming soon "supposively", but your pretending like ghz and raw speed isn't a factor anymore. That's like computers 101 isn't it? No really, no sarcasm there either.

Pfft, yeah, like the benchmark you showed me wasn't biased or anything about the oc'ing... The biggest part of the performance gain was from overclocking, so that's obviously bs too. How the... If it's done properly? It's coming very soon? LOL! Your assuming and expecting too much at the same time to for that to be good advice.



It was the dual that took 1.5+v when oced in that review. You got it mixed up.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core2quad-q6600/cpu-3852.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] html#sect0

Q6600 takes 1.4v or below for 3.6ghz. Not all chips handle voltage the same. Q6600 handles higher voltage than most duals. Intel's official recommended voltage for q6600 is 1.5v, compared to e8400 at 1.3v.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/d [...] Spec=SLACR

Reply to dagger

I wasn't referring to that benchmark. Ummm, show me a 4.2 ghz q6600 and normal voltages for that, if you can even find one that is. LOL! Either way, that's not in the norm.

Let's compare the q9650 to the e8600, I know it's a $540 cpu. But that q9650 isn't going anywhere near the e8600 in oc terms now with the thermal specs and similar voltages on 45nm. Also, people go above specs all the time with 65 and 45nm, what's your point?

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