Hi All am new to the site and building a gaming machine. iv got the Asus Striker Extreme LGA775 mobo and was considering the Intel Core⢠2 Duo E7300 2,66GHz, Socket 775, 3MB, 1066MHz processor.
i was just wondering is this a good choice or is there a better recommendation.
Guess it all depends on other components of your setup(especially gfx card and amount of ram) as you dont want to bottleneck yor system in any way.Your budget is also relevant, so be more specific.
I would suggest going for the e8x00 (4/5/6) as the higher cache and clock speeds will be better for gaming, but as Magik said, we need to know your budget and othe components.
Sorry man, but you got raped on the graphics card. Not even the 9800GTX can effectively use 1GB of VRAM.
But, with such a low-end GPU, unless you plan on upgrading to a gaming-level card soon, I would go with the E7200 or perhaps even an E5200.
Good advice. 680i can't handle high fsb. An E5200, which runs at low fsb and high multiplier, will be a better fit than something like e8200, which runs on high fsb and low multiplier.
Sorry man, but you got raped on the graphics card. Not even the 9800GTX can effectively use 1GB of VRAM.
But, with such a low-end GPU, unless you plan on upgrading to a gaming-level card soon, I would go with the E7200 or perhaps even an E5200.
thanks guys.... im slightly confused now
what card would be recommended as a "gaming-level" card.... i will be looking to upgrade to one of these yet i still want a half decent processor... maybe a Q6600? or something similar
Depends what games you want to play and how much you want to spend. I would start with a 3870 or 9600GT for around $100, 8800/9800GT between $100 and $150, and a 4850 at $150 and up.
Worry not, any Intel processor you get that is based on the Core architecure is going to be 'half decent' at any speed over and including 2.6Ghz for at least a couple more years.
Sure tehlexinator, keep telling yourself that. LOL! You got it totally mixed up. There's like a few instances where the quad really shines. Such as 3d and professional editing, but these are at stock speeds and just a few. Show me other benefits of quad core to justify that duals aren't better right now. And with the price counterpart dual, you can always OC more than that quad.
Quad?! Why? The e8400 trades performance scores with that quad. It overclocks higher and cost a little less.
At least you didn't spend money on a higher quad. Well, have fun with that. I'm not saying it's a bad cpu.
um guy with the weird name ^^, duals will overclock further than quads. fact. duals produce a lot less heat (obviously) and are monolithic instead of two duals stuck together..
theres just no need for a quad unless you're an impatient photoshopper, l0ol
Sure tehlexinator, keep telling yourself that. LOL! You got it totally mixed up. There's like a few instances where the quad really shines. Such as 3d and professional editing, but these are at stock speeds and just a few. Show me other benefits of quad core to justify that duals aren't better right now. And with the price counterpart dual, you can always OC more than that quad.
Quad?! Why? The e8400 trades performance scores with that quad. It overclocks higher and cost a little less.
At least you didn't spend money on a higher quad. Well, have fun with that. I'm not saying it's a bad cpu.
um guy with the weird name ^^, duals will overclock further than quads. fact. duals produce a lot less heat (obviously) and are monolithic instead of two duals stuck together..
theres just no need for a quad unless you're an impatient photoshopper, l0ol
How do you know that's not from the larger cache? Of course they like larger caches, what's the point in that review again?
And omg, a 1.2 ghz oc for the quad, but they barely oc the dual? Seriously, that has market scheme benchmark written all over it.
Edit: I am really starting to get annoyed by people that are giving me a negative point without explaining. They must have a quad. Don't worry, everybody's got one. The idiots that can't explain why they have one at least...
Message edited by habitat87 on 11-13-2008 at 04:52:51 PM
Now, you will notice that throughout the benchmarks and comparisons they show similar patterns according to this.
Of course once you start to oc, the diffferences are more apparent. Looking at these benchmarks, it really narrows down to what the performance difference between overclocking and having more cache is.
To the OP. I will give you this advice. It is very sound. Because I said so. if you plan to upgrade your pC within 1-2 years go with a high clocked dual.
but if you plan to keep your machine for 3-4 years then go with a quad and OC it.
Heed my advice as multithreaded gaming is coming very soon. And if it is done properly then no matter how much more a dual can OC a quad will beat it. There is plenty of prrof everywhere in games that properly support more than one core.
But can possibly be made up by the oc of the dual... I'm not trying to assume anything here. That's an educated and obvious guess atm.
If running a quad at 1.55v trying to play catch up to the dual, which it never will btw, is fine with you, then get it. By the time quad is ready, I can guarantee you, it will be so much cheaper by then anyways. Yeah, it is coming soon "supposively", but your pretending like ghz and raw speed isn't a factor anymore. That's like computers 101 isn't it? No really, no sarcasm there either.
Pfft, yeah, like the benchmark you showed me wasn't biased or anything about the oc'ing... The biggest part of the performance gain was from overclocking, so that's obviously bs too. How the... If it's done properly? It's coming very soon? LOL! Your assuming and expecting too much at the same time to for that to be good advice.
To the OP. I will give you this advice. It is very sound. Because I said so. if you plan to upgrade your pC within 1-2 years go with a high clocked dual.
but if you plan to keep your machine for 3-4 years then go with a quad and OC it.
Heed my advice as multithreaded gaming is coming very soon. And if it is done properly then no matter how much more a dual can OC a quad will beat it. There is plenty of prrof everywhere in games that properly support more than one core.
But can possibly be made up by the oc of the dual... I'm not trying to assume anything here. That's an educated and obvious guess atm.
If running a quad at 1.55v trying to play catch up to the dual, which it never will btw, is fine with you, then get it. By the time quad is ready, I can guarantee you, it will be so much cheaper by then anyways. Yeah, it is coming soon "supposively", but your pretending like ghz and raw speed isn't a factor anymore. That's like computers 101 isn't it? No really, no sarcasm there either.
Pfft, yeah, like the benchmark you showed me wasn't biased or anything about the oc'ing... The biggest part of the performance gain was from overclocking, so that's obviously bs too. How the... If it's done properly? It's coming very soon? LOL! Your assuming and expecting too much at the same time to for that to be good advice.
Q6600 takes 1.4v or below for 3.6ghz. Not all chips handle voltage the same. Q6600 handles higher voltage than most duals. Intel's official recommended voltage for q6600 is 1.5v, compared to e8400 at 1.3v.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/d [...] Spec=SLACR
I wasn't referring to that benchmark. Ummm, show me a 4.2 ghz q6600 and normal voltages for that, if you can even find one that is. LOL! Either way, that's not in the norm.
Let's compare the q9650 to the e8600, I know it's a $540 cpu. But that q9650 isn't going anywhere near the e8600 in oc terms now with the thermal specs and similar voltages on 45nm. Also, people go above specs all the time with 65 and 45nm, what's your point?
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