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Phenom II x4 965 black edition overclocking

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November 1, 2009 5:55:27 AM

Hello, soon I'm buying a new pc

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AMD PHENOM II X4 965 (3.4GHz) - BLACK EDITION - BOX

GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3

G.SKILL 4096MB (2048MBX2) DDR2 800 CL4-4-4-12 - F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI-B

XFX HD5850 1GB DDR5 - RETAIL

SAMSUNG SH-S223B x22 SATA BLACK

ANTEC THREE HUNDRED w/o PSU

CHIEFTEC A-135 550W

WD 500GB 16MB SATA2 7200 RPM - WD5000AAKS





I never tried overclocking, and never read a complete guide.
So before I do that I would like to ask you guys if my mother board and RAM are sufficient enough
to make an over clock to the cpu to about 4GHz or even maybe more.
(Do I need faster ram? please tell me why)
Also will I be able to get my cpu overclocked to 4 GHz with the stock cooling I get with the cpu or will I need to buy some Secondary cooling unit. (if yes, any suggestions?)

I would also like to overclock my gpu, just asking to be 100% sure, Can I overclock my gpu even without overclocking any other part in my system + I will not have to buy any other cooling unit for the gpu right?


Sorry if the questions bother you but I want answers to my specific system. :]
Thanks ahead. sbhk1
November 1, 2009 6:33:50 AM

Below I will recommend some changes to your build but no you most likely won't reach 4GHz. Yes you should buy an aftermarket HSF. Yes, GPUs are overclockable independent of the other components and no you won't need an extra cooler for them.

Here's the build I'd recommend for you (but it would be helpful if you filled out the form in my sig as well)

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD-585A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-GP 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
November 1, 2009 4:36:01 PM

Congrads to jbakerlent for taking the time to look up all the system parts for sbhk1. All of his choices could be debated but what he did do was to put together a AM3 CPU MB and RAM system. OP you were looking at a AM3 CPU and a AM2/AM2+ MB with DDR2 ram. A system like jbakerlent has chosen would be good or some simular like type parts. Personally I would go for a different case, HD, ram and MB but it would be very close in the end. I do have a simular AM3 system.
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November 1, 2009 11:57:06 PM

I have a very similer build to what jbakerlent is posting.

I have the 965 instead of the 955, a xfx 5870 instead of a 5850, and same hdd's(3 to be exact, 2 for raid0 1 for backup).
Atm I have my 965 oc'd to 3.6ghz atm just by increasing the multipliers. Ran prime 95 for 15mins and no errors. If you get close to this build you will indeed love it. JUst make sure if you get any ATI 5000's series to get a new monitor that supports atleast 1920x1080 resolution and you'll be set.
November 15, 2009 9:37:08 AM

topper743 said:
Congrads to jbakerlent for taking the time to look up all the system parts for sbhk1. All of his choices could be debated but what he did do was to put together a AM3 CPU MB and RAM system. OP you were looking at a AM3 CPU and a AM2/AM2+ MB with DDR2 ram. A system like jbakerlent has chosen would be good or some simular like type parts. Personally I would go for a different case, HD, ram and MB but it would be very close in the end. I do have a simular AM3 system.


hey i have the 965 however with ddr2 ram and an asus m4a78 pro motherboard (an am2+ setup with an am3 cpu then) cos at the time i was completely new to this and didnt really know wot to buy lol X(

Anyway, am i seriously crushing the potential of my 965 by haveing the am2+ mobo and ddr2 ram? Im not sure whether to upgrade or not or just stick for now. Cheers
a b K Overclocking
November 18, 2009 8:40:47 PM

IMHO, I don't think you will see a big enough improvement to warrant spending the couple of hundred $$ it will take to switch platforms.

Just to give you an idea here are a couple of screenshots for you to compare.

This first one is DDR2



Now here is the DDR3



:note there is a 100MHz difference in CPU clock speed, but that won't change the scores significantly
November 20, 2009 7:33:18 PM

right ok, thanks for your input. i was considering changing motherboard anyway though because (once again, i rushed things to put it simply) i bought the asus m4a78 pro which only has 1 pcie express x16 slot, making it impossible for my to xfire my eah4870 1gb. i have heard xfiring these gpus=gains which stack it up against extremely expensive cards. so yeah that was a bummer.. i really dont know what to do anymore though, there too many upgrades. like i was thinking of buying a ssd for os too and a new case out of the haf 932 or antec 1200 :/ 

lol i was generall just expressing my cofusion in a blabbing form, feel free to comment on anything XD cheers
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