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Well i am upgrading from a very old Epox 9npa+ultra motherboard With a athlon 64 3700+ and an EVGA 7600gt
I am on a budget of around 750$
So far my new pc parts are as follows:
EVGA nForce 680i SLI Motherboard-http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] =E145-2014
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor-http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] -DUO-Q6600
OCZ SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory-http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] =O261-7054

Those 3 are in a combo deal on TigerDirect for 400

BFG Tech BFGE88512GTSE GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814143119
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI 600Whttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341001
EVERCOOL EC-PT12-9525EA 95mm Ever Lubricate CPU Coolerhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835119092

My total comes to 729.20$
I was wondering if it would be wise to run Xp 32 bit. Or if i should jump up to Vista 32 or 64bit. I have heard some bad things about 64 bit.

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The 680i is almost 2 years old and has never been a very good chipset. You would be better off and spend the same or less getting a P45 instead. Vista had problems at first but it is a year and a half old and has become a very solid, stable OS and a lot of people are using the 64bit version and I haven't seen any issues. If you are planning on the 64bit version I would suggest more RAM, 2gb isn't enough.

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Reply to ausch30

How about
BIOSTAR TPower I45 LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813138118
With the same proc? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115017
What type of ram do you recommend for that motherboard?

Reply to jetracer
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I'd say 2x2gb ddr2 800 is the best way to go. it gives room for expansion and is pretty cheap.

you might want to downgrade to a cheap dual core if your haveing a hard time getting they system under budget.


I'd say Vista64, and keep your OS with your old system. add in a new HDD and case(w/psu), and your old system can remain intact for someone else to use

Reply to Groo

680i is questionable but not an unreasonible choice. vista 64...i run it with only a few small issues (mostly old games not running properly or at all..even in compatiblity mode); for the most part vista 64 is solid nowadays.

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Reply to atomicWAR

Ok I changed a few things
Still same bfg 8800gts card
hec ACE-580UB 580W ATX12V NVIDIA SLI Certified ATI CrossFire Ready Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817339006
OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227199
Foxconn P45A-S LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813186148
I am not sure if this mobo will work correctly it says its a Crossfire mobo. anyone tell me if it will work with no problems?
And still with the q6600
and same cooler.

Reply to jetracer
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it will work with 1 8800gts, not 2

Reply to Groo
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Hi Jetracer, some comments:

 

- You can have a 4850 for the price of that 8800GTS. Newer technology. You'd need to buy a 8800 Ultra to compete.

 

- You will save money by not going with the combo - it is overpriced for the components on it and isn't a great spec motherboard wise.

 

- Good choice of RAM, 4Gb + Vista 64bit is a good option.

 

- There are moves against Foxconn motherboards. There is a general preference towards Gigabyte and Asus. Try a Gigabyte P45 or Asus P5 board. There should be boards at around the same price point. P45 will definitely support Xfire.

 

- You are going to need a hard disk drive. See what is going on newegg. Try WD, Seagate or Samsung.

 

- I'm not liking the look of that power supply. You are going to need 500W minimum for a 4850. You will also need more current on the 12V rails probably 20A minimum, the ACE supply only gives 17. Look at a Corsair 550VX. It will be more expensive but your system will start and not cook any of the components.

 

Edit: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=108088 this is a hierarchy chart of PSU manufacturers, try for 2 or 3.

 

- A Q6600 is a good buy. If the budget gets too tight you could look at Dual cores. Incidentally they are rated as better for gaming and are currently very overclockable - even with the stock cooler.

 

How's that for a start?
Jeremy


Message edited by jpdykes on 08-24-2008 at 10:25:16 PM
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^ I agree if you get p45 you should get an ati 4850 since its newer technology and it will be faster then 8800gts and for future you can add another one if you really wanted to.

Reply to alvine

Ok yea i was told by a few people the 4850 is a better buy. What about the proc, which dual core should i get that is good for overclocking/gaming. I would need something that is gonna be current for at least a year untill i get through bootcamp. I did see one Asus P45 board that had many praise on newegg. I will try to find it and post it and see what you guys think thanks for all the help
And what do you guys think of staying with amd? Maybe a 6400 or should i just stay with core 2?


Message edited by jetracer on 08-24-2008 at 11:27:12 PM
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I think Core 2 will serve you better. It seems to have the legs on AMD at the moment.

Dual core seems to be preferred for gaming. The higher clock rates work better in the current single or dual threaded games.

Quad core will come into its own when developers start utilising all 4 cores, something that must be more likely with the introduction of Nehalem where 4 cores seems to be the basic model.

Much of Intel's range seems to support big overclocks. The Q6600 (65nm) is a solid favourite of many for just such a reason. The newer 45nm chips will run cooler and probably overclock better, but the quads are still considerably more money. Probably will a high quality heatsink you could negate the difference.

If you are looking at this system lasting one year then you should probably go with dual core. i7 isn't making the mass market until late 2009 and the developers don't seem to have dual threading sorted yet let alone quad.

Reply to jpdykes

My recommendations:

P45-DS3L
Corsair 650 or PC Power & Cooling 610
ATI 4850
2*2GB DDR2 800
Q6600/E8400/E7200

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Reply to shadow703793

Well so far here is what i have.
ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail'

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 NVIDIA SLI Ready ATI CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

OCZ Gold 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2G8004GK - Retail

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model HH80562PH0568M - OEM

Dynatron P985 92mm Ball CPU Cooler - Retail

ASUS P5QL PRO LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Reply to jetracer
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Thats a solid list....you wont need an aftermarket cooler unless you plan to overclock.... no idea on how good Dynatron's are..... most people are recommending the XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 with the optional bracket or Artic Cooling Freezer 7 pro.

Reply to 3lvis

Well that cpu dosent come with the heatsink or cooler, and all the reviews ive read on newegg have that cooler with the q6600 with idles of around 38c and highest on load was around 49c thats with overclocked to 3.5.
I don't intend on overclocking to much but those temps seem good to me.

Reply to jetracer

^ I wouldn't trust those newegg reviews. Most of the ppl. don't know WTF they are talking about. Get a XIGMATEK or better.

Good source for HSF reviews/info:
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heat [...] ELHEATSINK

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Reply to shadow703793

What if i go with the retail version of cpu, and just use stock heatsink and fan untill i get that extra cash. I don't plan on overclocking too insanely, my current rig runs at around 45c idle 52c on load, granted that is a watercooler it should be lower. and this is a single athlon 3700 would the q6600 be worse with stock cooler.

Reply to jetracer

I have made a two changes i am going with the retail version of the q660 and will use stock heatsink/fan combo for now. and i am now going to get the SAPPHIRE 100242TXSR Radeon Toxic HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

To keep temps down and its oc'd.

Also chaning the mobo back to GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

didnt notice the one i chose wasnt a p45


Message edited by jetracer on 08-26-2008 at 04:56:14 AM
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Good choices and the stock HSF will be fine if your not overclocking.

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