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November 14, 2008 5:21:24 AM

I just purchased 2x1GB sticks of Corsair XMS2 RAM sticks. Part # is CM2X1024-6400. They have timings of 5-5-5-18 ...

I have another pair of Corsair XMS2 sticks.. 2x1GB also.

They have timings of 5-5-5-12 .. when I put both pairs of sticks into my mobo my computer won't go past my bios screen... what do I do?

Is there a conflict because the timings are different? Is there a way to change them so they are all the same on all 4 sticks?


I have a Asus 650i P5N-E SLI, Vista HP 64 bit.


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November 14, 2008 5:26:10 AM

PC26400 800 MHz. requires 2.1v., your BIOS will default to 1.8v. In BIOS manually set the RAM voltage to 2.1v. Adjust the timings to 5-5-5-12. Use one DIMM in slot one to get into BIOS and make the proper settings.
November 14, 2008 5:27:28 AM

What would voltage settings be under?
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November 14, 2008 5:31:03 AM

ASUS uses Jumper free configuration to place a lot of performance tweaks. Perhaps under that or CPU or Northbridge. Your MB manual should have a description for RAM voltage adjustment in the 'BIOS' section.
November 14, 2008 5:55:25 AM

November 14, 2008 6:00:16 AM

November 14, 2008 6:01:49 AM

I changed the voltage in the jumperfree config you mentioned, to 2.1 something volts. And I changed the timings to 5-5-5-12.. did I do it right lol?
November 14, 2008 6:19:44 AM

I would be concerned driving RAM with a SPD voltage of 1.8 V at 2.1V.

Post the SPD tab of each stick type.
November 14, 2008 6:30:34 AM

Here are the settings that I have in BIOS:

TCL - 5
TRCD - 5
TRP - 5
TRAS - 12

The voltage for the RAM is 2.178V


Screenshots of SPD for the 4 slots:






November 14, 2008 6:51:33 AM

My computer has been running perfectly for the last 30 mins now with the 2.1V settings, and the 5-5-5-12 timings.

I don't understand why CPU-Z shows that the Voltage is 1.8V when in the BIOS it is clearly set at 2.178V.. I double checked if I saved the settings in BIOS and I have.. so it something with CPU-Z or..
November 14, 2008 7:32:32 AM

"There is no conflict" -Darth Vader

CPU-Z shows only spd info, not real ram voltage.
Those spd values refer to jedec standards 5-5-5-18 @1.8v.
However corsair has tested and certified these sticks to run 5-5-5-12 and 2.1v.
More voltage is obviously needed for tighter timings.
November 14, 2008 9:46:25 AM

MapAid said:
"There is no conflict" -Darth Vader

CPU-Z shows only spd info, not real ram voltage.
Those spd values refer to jedec standards 5-5-5-18 @1.8v.
However corsair has tested and certified these sticks to run 5-5-5-12 and 2.1v.
More voltage is obviously needed for tighter timings.
Yes, that is the SPD tab showing what Corsair has programmed into the information portion of the stick of RAM.

There is no JEDEC standard for a speed DDR2 800, that I know of.

At any rate, I checked at Corsair in regard to the CM2X1024-6400 and the information in the link gives their position on the specifications.

CM2X1024- 6400
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Each module is tested in an Intel-based motherboard at 800MHz

Tested at the low latencies of (5-5-5-18) at 1.9V

SPD programmed at 5-5-5-18 values
Darth uh... er... I mean sixtoo, I suggest that you try to run these sticks at 1.9V and 5-5-5-18. If that fails go up one volt at a time not exceeding 2.1V. If you want, you could try running them at 5-5-5-15 the real world difference with the core 2 duo is negligible. All of your sticks are identical based on the part number, of course there is never a guaranty. With 4 sticks the voltage may need to be higher than spec due to the additional load of the extra two sticks.
November 14, 2008 10:06:26 AM

MapAid said:
Those spd values refer to jedec standards 5-5-5-18 @1.8v.
One last thing, not all RAM is only giving the JEDEC standard in the SPD, as you can see from my CPU-Z screen shot. The question is what actual chips are on the modules and can they withstand the tighter timings and the higher voltage required. I can tell you that the Micron D9s on my RAM in the screen shot don't stand up that well and Crucial says they handle it in the SPD. That's why I recommend the lowest voltage that will be stable and not to squeeze every last ounce of performance, that won't even be noticeable, from RAM that might not be designed to handle it.


November 14, 2008 9:10:36 PM

Thanks for all your help guys. I finally got everything working perfectly. I am running all 4 sticks at 5-5-5-18 like Zorg suggested. I tried using the 1.9 voltage but my system froze about 3-4 minutes after I started Windows.. changed the voltage to 2.013V and it works like a charm.
November 14, 2008 9:46:08 PM

You gotta run a voltage that works. ;) 

Congratulations
November 14, 2008 10:22:58 PM

If you have any further BSOD's, in addition to bumping the RAM voltage a little higher than 2.0v, you may have to increase the Northbridge voltage to 1.4v or slightly higher (not more than 1.5v).
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