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I just garbaged picked an older pc and it has a AMD 3200+ on an AGP board. So I was just wondering if the AMD 3200+ would bottle neck a 3850 AGP card. THis card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814131090 This is a card that i want to upgrade to. Any input woill be valued thanks. :sol:

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I forgot to add that i wont be playing at any resolutions higher then 720p

Reply to drums101

Well if you got it for free that's not too bad. Anyway I think that CPU will greatly limit that video card if you're only playing at a 720p resolution. You should also consider that the 3850 is going to need quite a bit of power, power that your system may not have. If you have anything less than a 400W power supply then get a 3650 instead. If you have at least a 400W then take a look at how many AMPs are on the 12v Rail to be sure it will support the 3850. If you have a 450W or 500W PSU that has some decent AMPS on the 12v Rail and you have the money to spend then go for the 3850.

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Reply to megamanx00

Depending on what you intend to play, that 3200+ is going to be your limit, period.

LOL my motherboard fried, and XFX is sending me a new one. In the mean time, I'm currently running an AMD 3500+ on an old motherboard just so I can get internet access. Granted I'm running Windows Vista 64bit with 1GB of RAM, but my system crawls like a newborn.

AMD 3200+ is cutting it pretty slim for modern games.

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Reply to jerreece

i have a 2800+ clocked to 3200+ speeds, and it bottlenecks my HD 2600.

Get an x1650xt or HD 2600XT. You won't regret it.

Reply to frozenlead

Well I can give you a little advice on this, since I upgraded a few months ago to an HD 3850 AGP too (it might be a 1GB model, can't remember).

It is certainly the best AGP card you can buy, not too expensive now either. Basically this card will not hit its full potential on the AGP bus with *any* CPU. The bus just isn't fast enough to keep this GPU busy.

You will certainly get the best graphics performance possible. For instance I run Flight Sim X at 1600x1200, w/bilinear filtering and AA enabled, getting around 20-25fps. I have 2 x Pentium 4 Xeon @ 2.8GHz. Actually I found increasing the resolution, enabling AA didn't hurt performance much. That is really just giving the GPU more work. The framerate in this game is mostly determined by the CPU speed and how fast it can load new textures (that pesky slow AGP bus). On the other hand, if I increase the detail settings (scenery/clouds etc.) that loads up the CPU, and the framerate really suffers.

Would you get exactly the same performance with a cheaper card (eg. the X1650XT or HD 2600XT recommended by frozenlead)? I can't say. My best guess is that your 3200+ will determine the max FPS to a great extent. However the faster GPU might allow you to reach some higher resolution/AA settings. So I would say it depends on your budget, how soon you plan to replace this system and how large a monitor you have...

You'll also want to read this article from Tom's:
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 011-5.html

Reply to bengolding

thanks guys i think that is a good idea cuz the 2600xt is cheaper too and that will stay with the garbage picked theme.

Reply to drums101
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