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Asus 8800GT 512MB or Asus 9600GT 1024MB! Urgent Help!!

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September 21, 2008 2:47:24 AM

Hey Everybody.. I have an urgent question which needs to be answered.. im thinking of buying a new graphics card but I've got two selections.. I dont know which one is better and which one I'll have better performance with.

First one:

Asus GeForce EN8800 GT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX...

Second one:

Asus 1024Mb nVidia GeForce 9600 GT PCI-Express Card
http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=GCA-X...

Please check these out and let me know as soon as possible.

Thanks.

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September 21, 2008 2:52:43 AM

8800gt is significantly faster. The 1gb ram on 9600gt is meaningless.
September 21, 2008 2:56:43 AM

dagger said:
8800gt is significantly faster. The 1gb ram on 9600gt is meaningless.


Thanks for your reply... just for your information... my computer:

Motherboard: Asrock AliveXfire-eSata2
CPU: Amd Athlon x2 64 bit 6000+ dual core
RAM: OCZ 2x1GB DDR800mhz Dual Channel (Might upgrade to 4x1GB dual channel soon)
Display: Acoustic Solutions 19" HD TV (Supports MAX 1440x900 resolutions i think) I will connect using HDMI or VGA

Is the 8800GT still the recommended one?

Thanks Once again..
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September 21, 2008 3:05:24 AM

Yes, don't let the ram amount throw you off. The 1gb version of 9600gt use the same processor as 512mb version. 8800gt's g92 gpu is more powerful than 9600gt's g94. 9600gt can't run the kind of resolution necessary to make use of 1gb anyway.
September 21, 2008 3:09:21 AM

dagger said:
Yes, don't let the ram amount throw you off. The 1gb version of 9600gt use the same processor as 512mb version. 8800gt's g92 gpu is more powerful than 9600gt's g94. 9600gt can't run the kind of resolution necessary to make use of 1gb anyway.


Ok, thanks alot for your help..
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2008 3:42:22 AM

Definitely the 8800GT. It's the better graphics card.
September 21, 2008 10:08:34 AM

dagger said:
Yes, don't let the ram amount throw you off. The 1gb version of 9600gt use the same processor as 512mb version. 8800gt's g92 gpu is more powerful than 9600gt's g94. 9600gt can't run the kind of resolution necessary to make use of 1gb anyway.


What about the 9600GT 512MB version? If its 8800GT again i'm not going to do any comparisons, i'm just going to go for that one...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX...(PCI-Express)%20-%20Retail
September 21, 2008 10:58:27 AM

johnyeah said:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=7...

Is cheaper and better.

Don't let the 96xx series throw you off, 8800GT is by far the best choice for that price range without doubt.


Okay, thanks alot for everybody's help, i understand now which one i should go for :)  I will be ordering my:

Asus 8800GT 512MB on wednesday, along with my new 250gb sata hard drive and another set of OCZ 2x1GB RAM :) )

These will be my computer specs by friday :) ))

Motherboard: Asrock AliveXfire-eSata2
CPU: Amd Athlon 64-bit 6000+ dual core
PSU: 450W
GPU: Asus 8800GT 512MB
RAM: OCZ 4x 1GB Dual Channel
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit
Case: Galaxy III
Screen / Monitor: Acoustic Solutions 19" HDTV (720p,1080i supported) with resolutions upto 1440x900.

I'm very excited :)  Thanks again everybody for the help :) )
September 21, 2008 11:00:32 AM

One question, what PSU do you use?
You might want to make sure it has a PCI-E connector before you order the video card.
September 21, 2008 11:10:01 AM

johnyeah said:
One question, what PSU do you use?
You might want to make sure it has a PCI-E connector before you order the video card.


I'm not sure.. the PSU was on the case when i got it, is the PCI-E connector a wire with 4 connectors?

Thanks.. if you want, i can send you a picture of what im talking about... btw i think the graphic card comes with the little power adapter for the PCI-E connetor...
September 21, 2008 11:14:05 AM

A picture would work.
Anyhow, if it comes with a power adapter, you should be fine. 450W PSU should handle your setup sufficiently.
September 21, 2008 11:14:11 AM

johnyeah said:
One question, what PSU do you use?
You might want to make sure it has a PCI-E connector before you order the video card.


Ok, I've checked and somewhere on my PSU it says "WIN Power" as brand i think.. then somewhere else it says
Model: atx-450
September 21, 2008 11:21:00 AM

Yeah, I tried looking up the specs for your power supply, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

Wattages only mean so much, but I'd say it should be fine.

If you can find the specs on the PSU that'll help clarify things.
September 21, 2008 11:23:06 AM

I've googled images of PCI-E Connectors and now i know what you're talking about, i just checked my case and realised i dont have the PCI-E Connectors.. im trying to find out now weather the Graphics card comes with the little adapter or not.. worse comes to worse, i'll buy that seperately..
September 21, 2008 11:27:59 AM

johnyeah said:
Yeah, I tried looking up the specs for your power supply, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

Wattages only mean so much, but I'd say it should be fine.

If you can find the specs on the PSU that'll help clarify things.


Ok I've got some info after reading the review from cnet... it says:

"Finally, there's an adapter for older power supply connections" I'm guessing that is the PCI-E Connector.. am i wrong?
September 21, 2008 11:30:54 AM

Well, just make sure the PCI-E adapter comes with the video card (check the package content, if you can't find it, call customer service and ask before you buy). If not, make sure you buy it separately (like you said yourself).
September 21, 2008 11:33:10 AM

johnyeah said:
Well, just make sure the PCI-E adapter comes with the video card (check the package content, if you can't find it, call customer service and ask before you buy). If not, make sure you buy it separately (like you said yourself).


Ok :)  Thanks alot for all your help, by the way I'm near enough sure that it will come with the PCI-E Power Connector... due to pictures of the bundled items from this site:

http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_c...

And i doubt a brand like Asus will not put a PCI-E Power connector in there.. i mean they are even putting a free CD wallet in there lol :) 
September 21, 2008 11:42:15 AM

Pictures are deceiving.
Double check if anything, just make sure you'll get it.
September 21, 2008 11:46:45 AM

johnyeah said:
Pictures are deceiving.
Double check if anything, just make sure you'll get it.


Okay :)  By the way good news, I found the little adapter we need at home :) ) the PCI-E Power Connector... so if the Graphic Card doesnt come with the adapter.. I've got one at home to confirm the situation:) 
September 21, 2008 11:56:56 AM

Seems like you're all set, I just hope the 12v rails supply enough amps to your keep your system steady.
September 21, 2008 12:00:41 PM

johnyeah said:
Seems like you're all set, I just hope the 12v rails supply enough amps to your keep your system steady.


Yep :)  By the way, do you know any way of recognising that your power supply isnt strong enough for your computer?
September 21, 2008 12:38:48 PM

musti33 said:
Yep :)  By the way, do you know any way of recognising that your power supply isnt strong enough for your computer?


Yeah, it crash on high load. :p 
September 21, 2008 12:46:43 PM

Pretty much when your system reboots under full load, after an addition of a new device (assuming it's not the driver's that's acting up).
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2008 12:55:19 PM

STOP. If planing to gat the 8800GT or any other high powered card get yourself a good PSU first. That way you won't kill any of your new hardware when the PSU dies. Unless it's an Antec (EAxxx) PSU the PSUs that come with the case are cr@p. I recommend Corsair or PC Power & Cooling. If those are too expensive for you get a OCZ, Antec,etc.

You can run fine on a Corsair 450VX:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It's only $55 after MIR.
September 21, 2008 12:58:34 PM

get the ati 4850 it's better than the 8800 gt if you can afford it.
September 21, 2008 12:58:50 PM

Shadow703793 said:
STOP. If planing to gat the 8800GT or any other high powered card get yourself a good PSU first. That way you won't kill any of your new hardware when the PSU dies. Unless it's an Antec (EAxxx) PSU the PSUs that come with the case are cr@p. I recommend Corsair or PC Power & Cooling. If those are too expensive for you get a OCZ, Antec,etc.

You can run fine on a Corsair 450VX:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It's only $55 after MIR.


He already has a 450w psu, which should be enough. If upgrading, at least get a higher one. :p 
September 21, 2008 1:10:31 PM

Well.. the 450w psu is brand new.. along with all my hardware.. if its not enough.. at the end of the month, I'll have abit more money.. then i can get something bigger but hmm.. i doubt i'll have problems... you never know though..
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2008 1:25:01 PM

dagger said:
He already has a 450w psu, which should be enough. If upgrading, at least get a higher one. :p 

That's not my point. The PSU that comes with case are cr@p, as in cr@ppy quality. (ie low amps, low rail stability,etc) :p 

# of Watts is rarely an indication of build quality. Just check out the reviews @ Jhonny guru or [H].
September 21, 2008 1:29:23 PM

musti33 said:
for £20 pounds i found a brand new 650W PSU :)  Ebay but that doesnt matter.. its brand new.. the seller is a GOLD POWERSELLER.. and it has next day delivery :)  I'll give you the link:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAND-NEW-650-WATT-POWER-SUPPLY-U...

I'm sure that PSU will be enough..


That doesn't look good. The 12v rail ampage is very low for 650w. Only 1 SATA connector? No pcie connectors? You can use molex to pcie converters, but still... It seems like an extremely old model that got a facelift and sold as up to date compatible model psu.

Also, the picture in the bottom does not match specs. They're showing a different unit there.

I wouldn't take a chance with this.
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2008 1:32:15 PM

^+1.

@OP: Stick to the PSU brands I listed. Trust me. Or you can PM Zorg with all your PSU questions about PSU quality.
September 21, 2008 1:52:34 PM

Okay.. yeh i had wierd feelings about that one too... stupid of me to even consider buying that one
September 21, 2008 2:00:06 PM

Do you recommend "Hiper"? I've heard it's a good brand but i'm not really sure.. havent really used it..
September 21, 2008 2:04:35 PM

I'd say stick with your current PSU since it's not dying or anything (try it out first, then consider a new PSU if it doesn't work). If your PSU can't provide enough power, it won't fry the other components so no fret there.

I checked out the power consumption for the components and it only loads to around 300W.
September 21, 2008 2:08:36 PM

Johnyeah: Was it my components that you checked?

dagger: my budget is very limited.. after building this computer.. i really dont have alot of money left for power supply... infact i'll have none after ordering my 250gb sata2 hard disk and 8800GT so im going to wait till end of month.... at the end of the month i'll decide how much im going to spend on what.. but till the end of the month.. im going to test my current 450W psu and see how far it can get me..
September 21, 2008 2:16:06 PM

Okay thanks :)  If i have problems.. ill probably look into one of the "True" 500W or more PSU's.. by good brands like Hiper, gigabyte, antec, jeantech.. they are pretty much suitable for my budget too.. and also have few sata connectors and PCI-E connectors etc
September 21, 2008 2:36:22 PM

Okay, anybody find "Alpha Power" a familiar PSU brand? I personally am not good at PSU's so i dont really know.. because it looks like i've found some good "Alpha Power" PSU's around £20 but i dont know if its a trustable brand...
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2008 2:58:09 PM

^+1.
September 21, 2008 3:07:54 PM

So.. which tier should i go for?
September 21, 2008 3:13:44 PM

I'd keep with tier 3, anything below that anything can happen (meaning you can get a perfectly fine PSU, or one that blows your system up).
September 21, 2008 3:58:46 PM

I'm getting even more excited right now.. the amount of reviews i read about the Asus 8800GT 512mb.. it runs CS:Source at like 150 FPS!!! That's amazing!! My old computer used to have trouble running it at 30FPS lol :p 
September 21, 2008 5:38:45 PM

Corsair are good for cheap, but SERIOUSLY. DO NOT USE THAT POWER SUPPLY!!!!!!
Don't even turn it on. It WILL fry at some point and the last thing you want is your crummy PSU frying all your new stuff.
BUY A NEW PSU!!! NOW!

hope your build goes well!
September 21, 2008 5:41:41 PM

customisbetter said:
Corsair are good for cheap, but SERIOUSLY. DO NOT USE THAT POWER SUPPLY!!!!!!
Don't even turn it on. It WILL fry at some point and the last thing you want is your crummy PSU frying all your new stuff.
BUY A NEW PSU!!! NOW!

hope your build goes well!


Well hmm.. what is the cheapest but most trustable PSU u can find me? around £20.. MAXXX £25!!
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