Final Build - any changes?

Hey there.
Im almost done creating a new system. This is what i've got so far:

http://download.feller.dk/nytsystem1.jpg

Those prices are in danish krones but that doesn't matter. Its more the setup, anything i should change? Maybe one of the new 280 gfx cards from nvidia? Another motherboard?

Thank you.

Agreed. Why not get a P45 if that's your GPU of choice, or keep the X48 and get one of the new ATI offerings (4850/4870)?

Good luck

There are really only two major differences. One difference is that the P45 will only do x8/x8 crossfire while the X48 will give you full x16/x16 crossfire. The other difference is the cost. You'll spend alot less on a P45 board than on a X48 board, and if you're putting an nvidia card in there's zero reason to spend a bunch more for something you won't be able to take advantage of.

yes it will but not 2 of them because you will need Nvidia motherboard to do SLI.

i assume since only getting 2gb ram you have 32 bit os? that is ram is going to get eaten up pretty quick by any high end vid card that you use. highly recommend upping to 4gb even if you don't go 64 bit. but also recommend going 64 bit.

+1 to drop the raptor. 640gb wd is a great drive and cheap in US. Not sure where you are but can't beat it on price per gb here and the performance will not be too far behind your little warm raptor.

in fact you could probably get 2 640gbs for the price of your raptor and 750gb drive. could keep them separate or raid them but that would give you over 1.2tb space and plenty of speed.

i would get a different psu. corsair, pc power and cooling, even antec or ocz.

+1 to no point in x48 if getting a nvidia card gain nothing and pay more. would go with p45. before i can recommend what is the best gpu i would need to know what your system is used for. if gaming what kind of games and what resolution is your monitor?

And what corsair PSU should i go for? ie. whick one of these:
http://edbpriser.dk/Products/Listp [...] a=products
Another thing about the RAM. Should i buy 4 blocks of 1GB each which is CL4 or 2 blocks of 2GB which is CL5?

2x2gb is preferred. 1.8v if you can that is the standard voltage. but 2x2 is only using 2 slots then. less chance for problems and 2 open slots if you decide to add more later. if you get big into 3d stuff you may want to add 4 more gb at a later date.

that is a nice resolution monitor. you will be able tax most gpu's with that resolution. thing is that 1 4870x2 performs better than 2 4870s crossfired. So if you can afford it i would do that.

your psu is going to be determinate on what card(s) you end up with. if you stick with the x48 and are going to do 2 cards you are going to need more than if you do one card on the p45

Assuming you are using a good psu here is the breakdown:

500w ok for
1 4850
1 4870

650w ok for
1 4870x2

750w ok for
2 x 4870

around 1000w or a little less for:
2 x 4870x2

i tend to error on the side of more than you need so others may be able to get you a little closer to true minimum wattage.

So figure out your budget. then figure out what you can afford GPU. Then decide if you are going to add another of the same down the road. but it would have to be relatively soon because if it is going to be a year or more there will be much better single cards at that point probably. once you decide if you are going to get 2 cards relatively soon then that will help you on x48 or p45. p45 can do two cards but at your nice resolution x8/x8 will have some impact. if you resolution was lower i would say get p45 no matter what because at lower resolutions x8/x8 has virtually no impact.

hope i've given you enough to think about .

4870x2 its the current king.

I don't think im gonna go for the 4870x2, its too exspensive compared to my budget!
One 9800GX2 almost costs the same as 2x 4870. Which one should i go for? CF with 4870 or a single 9800GX2 card?

1. ram - just about every cl4 you are going to find is that way because they upped the voltage. meaning the ram isn't any better. 1.8v is the standard and what you should get. if you overclock and need to then mess with voltage and timings.

2. gpu. i'm confused. you are saying the 4870x2 is too expensive but you are considering 2 x 4870? what are the prices where you are at? here in the states it costs just as much to get 2 x 4870 and those are only 1024mb (2 x 512mb) combined whereas the 4870x2 is 2gb (2x1gb)which makes a difference.

i don't understand your first part. you say 2x4870 is too expensive but you are going to go for 2x4870 or gx2?? why is it an option if it is too expensive?

ram - 2x2gb cl5 is what you should do. 1.8v. corsair, mushkin, OCZ are some good brands. Also, g.skill. That is the standard, will work just as well as 4x1g and leave you 2 open slots to add 2x2gb more down the road if you get big time into 3d stuff.

Ok guys I need imput on this build , I got a cheaper case but was able to get more RAM, a card-reader, and better gfx card...what do you think ? (also I already have a HDD so its not included)

CPU- AMD 64 x2 6000+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103773

CASE-Coolermaster centurion 5 w/ Coolermaster extreme power PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119068 (case), http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817171031 (PSU)

GFX CARD- PNY 8800GT http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814133232

OPTICAL DRIVE- Lite on DVD burner w/lightscribe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106073

RAM- pqi turbo 4gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820141366

HEADSET- Rosewill circumaural headsets (just wanted something) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6826193029

PSU- deal with PSU

CARD READER- super talent card reader http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820609298

MOTHERBOARD- ECS GF8200A http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813135085

rocka4him: Ah don't hijack my thread Nah well i think you have a better chance at getting some answers if you create your own thread.

Thank you Wanker79 and bdollar, i think i understand the voltage and timing things now.
Now about those graphic cards:
I have three options (remember my ress is 1920x1200 and i want to play a few NEW 3d games):
1x Inno3D 9800GX2
1x HD4870 now and another HD4870 later (maybe in 1-2 months)
1x GTX260

Which one should i go for? And how many watts will me PSU need for that card and the rest of my build?

Thanks

bdollar: ah i can't wait. Need the system in this month.. maybe i should check if my parents have some spare money

Okay i think i know what im gonna do. I need the system ready to run for a big LAN party the 10th october. I get my next income the 1st october. I think i'll buy everything except the grapichcard. Then wait for the 1st of october and buy a 4870x2.

So a small breakdown:
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Antec Performance One
Core 2 Quad Q9550 12 MB (Intel Boxed)
Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6
Corsair XMS2 2 x 2 GB
Corsair HX620W
WD Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640 GB
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ATI 4870x2 (don't know what manufacturer)
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Will that PSU be enough? or should i go for a 750?

what case is that. is it the performance one p182?

Oh I am so sorry bdollar and fellar, this is my first time on this blog... I had no idea man, my bad

no worries at all. but yeah, you get more scoop when you start one. i haven't used the p182 and don't know a ton about it. so i can't comment on how good it is at keeping things cool. also not sure where it is price wise. antec 900 and 1200 are two very good cases that keep things nice and cool so you may want to compare price. but i'm probably not the best one to comment on the p182.

And the P182 case is very nice! Almost like the Antec P190 case (3dgameman have a video review of it). I have a friend with the P182 so i know how big it is and how the airflow is.

Oh i didn't see that reply
Doesn't CF needs two of the same cards? I don't think i ever want to run CF. Is the only difference between the P45 and the X48 boards, the 8x and 16x pci-e?
And should it be the P45-DQ6 or another P45? (i prefer Gigabyte).

Crossfire supports different cards as well, I believe, as will SLI in the future (new driver release in September). If you don't need crossfire, or crossfire at full bandwidth, then go P45.

Gigabyte makes nice P45 boards.

Ok...I like the ideas that have been listed. I would go with the 1 kw PSU if you plan on getting a second 4870x2 at some point. If you only want the one, 750w or so should do you just fine.

2x2GB RAM at 1.8v and good timings (4 if possible) is a good idea.

Agreed about X48 - if you don't plan on Crossfire, there's no reason for the extra $100.

For the Gigbabyte boards - check out this comparison.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 32&bop=And

I think you'd be OK with the 2nd or 3rd one. I think they will be good boards for you (the 3rd one has DDR2 and DDR3 support).

Good luck. Let us know which of those you choose.

get the 750w for sure then. that is a great psu and for a single card set up (no crossfire, no x48) that is plenty of juice and will allow you to add stuff, change stuff in the future.

go 4870x2. it really shines with AA and stuff turned up. and at your resolution you'll want to do that.

bdollar: Okay. I'm also gonna go for the 4870x2 board Thank you very much for all the help, i really needed it and it is very appreciated!
Wanker79 thanks to you too i really can't wait for the parts to arrive

You can all see the final build here: http://www.download.feller.dk/pc.html
The 4870x2 isn't in any danish internet stores yet, so i'm gonna wait for it (i know the picture is the 9800gx2 but you'll get the picture)

Cheers