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September 29, 2008 4:13:37 PM

hey everyone, im trying to build a cheap gaming pc but would like performance. im looking around newegg for parts. im trying to build around what i already have which is a 9800GT and 80GB HDD. im not trying to get out of looking for stuff myself because right after i type this im going right back to newegg and bookmarking what i plan on buying, i would just like a little input from the people who know their stuff (you guys). oh and i already have a monitor also, its 19". i have never built a pc before this will be my first. so thanks for any reccomendations in advance. ill post back here with the parts i plan on using in a bit.
September 29, 2008 5:16:35 PM

ok this is what ive got for this build,

HEC 6C28BSX585 Black / Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case With 585W Power Supply

LITE-ON Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DH-16D3P-08

Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 Wolfdale 2.66GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

Foxconn G33M LGA 775 Intel G33 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

PNY XLR8 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Nvidia Geforce 9800GT 512MB (already have)

Segate 80GB HDD (already have)

Dell 19" Flat Panel LCD (already have)

i think all these things are compatable and it will only cost about $400 thats with the shipping method i use (next day) so if anyone could review this and let me know if anything wont work, its greatly appreciated. all parts from newegg.com
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a b U Graphics card
September 29, 2008 5:37:15 PM

Why get that G33 with integrated graphics when you are going to add a GPU? You can get a P31/35/43/45 at about the same price or cheaper that would be better. Your legacy HD is probably IDE, but you can still use a SATA burner. Great price on the HEC(Compucase) but i wouldn't recommend a HEC power supply to anyone.
September 29, 2008 5:39:50 PM

at terror: thanks thats a nice pc but i would like to build my own to see if i can do it. so i just need to know if all the parts i selected are compatable.
September 29, 2008 5:47:31 PM

The list is I made is of parts all straight from newegg. All the parts come in seperate, so you have to build the system yourself. All I did was make a selection of quality parts that would make a great build. If I where you I would get the e5200 instead of the e8200, especially if you plan to overclock and save some cash. Next, stay away from foxconn, it is not worth the crap they put on it. Also +1 to dirtmountain about the G33. Finally, If I where you I would get a decent "name brand" powersupply for your system, even if it costs a little extra. I would reccomend corsair for the PSU and the coolermaster centurion 5 as the case. Both are cheap and reliable.
a c 106 U Graphics card
September 29, 2008 5:47:58 PM

Well I'm not too crazy about the case and PSU. It should be fine if it can output at least 70% of the power it advertises :D . That build isn't going to use too much power, but if the voltage on the rails varies too much under load it will limit your overclocking ability and system stability. I only use those cheap PSUs on systems that aren't too power hungry and even then I'm hesitant about it.
September 29, 2008 6:04:38 PM

ok so maybe a different cpu and a better psu, that is do-able. ill look into a diff mobo i guess but i think that one will do fine. still any other reccommendations are welcome. ill be buying over the next 2 months so i got a while
September 29, 2008 6:21:18 PM

ok made 2 changes to build, this is revised version:

*GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

*Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

HEC 6C28BSX585 Black / Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 585W Power Supply

PNY XLR8 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

LITE-ON Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DH-16D3P-08

Nvidia 9800GT 512MB (already own)

Segate 80GB HDD (already own)

Dell 19" LCD Digital Flat Panel (already own)

i feel better about this setup than the previous one i put together. the mobo has better oc capability, and a faster processor for like $5 more. let me know what you guys think about this build, thanks in advance.
a b U Graphics card
September 29, 2008 6:42:24 PM

A recommendation. As you buy the parts over the next 2 months keep an eye out for neweggs combo deals. Right now there's a great combo deal for a Asus P45 P5Q pro that would actually drop the price of it below the P35 DS3L motherboard when paired with the E8400 (-$35)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you have the time to shop around at newegg you can often find other deals that might save you good money over a 2 months span.
a b U Graphics card
September 29, 2008 6:47:39 PM

You still have an IDE DVD drive in your list. You should get a SATA burner. There is no reason to put an IDE DVD drive in a new build. The new motherboards only have one IDE connector anyway which will only allow 2 devices. If your old HD is IDE, you'll have to put your HD in a CD bay close to the DVD drive to get it to work. I just got this Samsung drive and love it:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You might as well use a newer P43/P45 chipset motherboard also. This one is only about $5 more than the EP-35-DS3L:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't know about PNY RAM. You also didn't say what operating system you will be installing. I would recommend 64-bit Vista Home Premium and some good Mushkin RAM:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If that RAM is to expensive, check this out:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 29, 2008 6:59:42 PM

ok shortstuff ill check it out. i have OEM 32-bit vista home premium disk that i got with my XPS 630i, will that disk work/install on another PC? if not i have a retail 32-bit vista home basic disk that i could install until i can afford to upgrade. so ill be running 32-bit vista one way or another.
September 29, 2008 7:05:52 PM

terror112 said:
Try taking a look at this build.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/256233-31-amazing-gam...


I think this is an Excellent Build.

#1 - It's a FANTASTIC PSU.
The Power is extremely stable and it can easily handle 100% constant load.
The reason is that its rated at 450w SUSTAINED Load.
It can supply well over 450w for peak usage.

That is what you get when you but a PSU from a Top Tier Brand such as Corsair.

#2 - Very Nice Case. The Extra Cooling is nice.

#3 - I would likely spend a few more dollars for a P43 or P45 Gigabyte, but that is a good board.
I have one from before the new chipsets came out.
September 29, 2008 7:09:57 PM

I would not touch this case: HEC 6C28BSX585 Black / Silver Steel ATX Mid

Poor Cooling and it ships with a PSU you need to replace with a more reliable one.
a b U Graphics card
September 29, 2008 7:13:16 PM

I would recommend 4 gig of RAM even with a 32-bit OS. You won't be able to use all the RAM, but 3 - 3.5 gig is better than 2 gig! I recently upgraded from 2 gig and 32-bit Vista to 4 gig and 64-bit Vista and am very happy with it.
September 29, 2008 7:15:49 PM

ok i think this is THE revision:

HEC 6C28BSX585 Black / Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 585W Power Supply

GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard

SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400

OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2N10662GK

Nvidia 9800GT 512 MB (owned)

Dell 19" LCD Digital Flat Panel (owned)

80GB HDD (owned)

this looks to be a good budget gaming rig. i couldve gotten to this if i wouldve spent more time searching, thanks to all tha t helped and suggested parts. the total will be about $411 with next day shipping (unless i have to pay seperat shipping on the parts, i dont think if i order all at once i should have seperate shippin but IDK) so rate this rig please!
a b U Graphics card
September 29, 2008 8:07:19 PM

I hope you enjoy it before that crappy PSU blows it all up! :D  Seriously though, you should really consider putting in a decent PSU. The case you chose is $50 + $20 shipping & handling. Newegg currently has the Antec Three Hundred case for $55 with free shipping. You could get the Antec case and even a low-end Corsair PSU and be a lot better off. The Corsair 450VX is $55 after MIR.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That $40 would be worth every penny IMO!
September 29, 2008 8:20:36 PM

I think this is the time when someone finds and posts the link to the video when Corsair tries out 6 cheap PSU's (much like this one) and at 75% they all explode within 2 minutes.

You're spending a little extra so you won't have to replace much more than PSU in the future.
a b U Graphics card
September 29, 2008 9:05:29 PM

Raidmax PSU's are generally considered crap also. You seem intent on a crappy PSU. Good luck!

The PSU is the heart of your system and the most important. If it goes out, there is a very good chance of it taking other hardware with it. This is the one piece you should not go cheap on.
September 29, 2008 11:46:45 PM

ok i found a different case without psu and was looking at this psu, is coolmax a good reliable brand?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and is it enough to power all the things i would like to put into this pc and good for a possible HD4850 upgrade?:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe

OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard

COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Nvidia GeForce 9800GT 512MB (possible future HD4850)

Dell 19" LCD Flat Panel

Segate 80GB HDD

thats what i have for this build. the psu is only $34.99 and 500-watts. but idk about brands for psu's as to which are good reliable psu brands. all help is welcomed and please rate this rig.
September 30, 2008 8:59:03 AM

I wouldn't buy it. Coolmax isn't really known for its gaming PSUs (as evidenced by its location in tier 5 aka DO NOT BUY) and it's weak on the 12V rail. It might not even be enough to run your 9800 GT let alone any upgrade you might want a year or two down the road - if it even survives that long.

I know you're on a budget, but a PSU is something you simply cannot go cheap on. You don't have to go excessive and buy a 1500W beast, You just need something solid that will work safely and reliably for 3+ years. The Corsair PSU that was pointed out earlier should be the minimum you go with. If you want to upgrade video cards within the life of this system, you should think about investing a bit more into your PSU and get one with 2 PCI-E plugs - preferably the 6+2 pin variety. It'll cost you now, but it'll save you money later in that you won't need a replacement PSU if it blows up (which may or may not take other parts along with it) and you won't need to upgrade your PSU if you want a GPU upgrade.
September 30, 2008 9:42:01 AM

haha some things i was going to suggest have already been put down... oh well my input is this:
Don't get PNY RAM! get a proper manufacturer such as G.Skill, Corsair, OCZ, Patriot! my personal favourite is OCZ followed by corsair, however g.skill is good for its price although imho hideous to look at...
September 30, 2008 5:26:39 PM

thanks everyone for your input but i think its finally finished, i have all the parts needed and all have a 4 to 5 egg rating (newegg.com) and this is what this build will have as followes:

COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor

OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

COOLER MASTER eXtreme RP-500-PCAR 500W ATX12V V2.01 Power Supply

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe

Rosewill RFX-120BL 120mm 2 Ball Bearing Blue LED Case Fan with Fan Controller Set

Antec LED80XFAN 80mm Blue LED Case Fan

Nvidia 9800GT 512MB (owned)

Dell 19" LCD Flat Panel (owned)

80GB HDD (owned)

thats the final revision for this budget build so PLEASE RATE THIS RIG, and i think i will upgrade to a HD4850 around christmas time. thanks all for help/suggestions. TOTAL: $445.92
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