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How do I keep the information on my harddrive after switching the mobo

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February 7, 2010 1:11:50 PM

I have this problem, I have a computer that won't turn on and lots of valueable information on the hard drive. The motherboard I believe is fried and the PSU is pretty much toast as well (it is the most likely the reason it fried in the first place (i've gone through a mobo a year)). If I swithch out the motherboard is there any way of saving the contents of the harddrive?

P.S. All the files our on the documents and settings folder.
P.P.S. My OS is mirosoft xp.
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February 7, 2010 4:29:13 PM

a) buy a new drive and once the new one is running Windows, temporarily or permanently install the old alongside it.
b) persuade a friend to let you install your drive temporarily on their machine and copy data from it to a CD, DVD.
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February 7, 2010 5:05:08 PM

Well I was told that because all my files were in documents and settings that they would be encryted, also would be possible to repair install windows on the harddrive and still keep the information on it after putting it with the new mother board?
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February 7, 2010 5:39:02 PM

The reason I suggested a second drive is that you will wipe everything from the old drive when you re-install Windows unless you know how to create a new partition without losing the old one.

I haven't heard about files being encrypted myself but if you use an identical user name and password on the new installation you may be able to access the files.

In future if you start having hardware problems back up to CD or memory stick before things go bang. And don't just let Windows stick your files where it chooses -- always create your own folders for docs and pics and music etc.

Windows does not know best.
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February 7, 2010 5:53:08 PM

This is actually pretty easy. First, if you do a repair install you shouldn't have any problems. You'll be able to boot into windows just like normal. This is a pretty good guide if you've never done this.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

If you can't do that (?) then you can install a second copy of windows and do this to get your files back.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421

I highly suggest the repair install first, and the KB article second. If you go the KB route, DON'T format or partition the drive until after you get your files. If you do go this route, I suggest saving the files then formatting the drive and installing Windows again. This way you don't have a useless windows build taking up space on the drive.
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February 7, 2010 8:26:17 PM

I was wondering if anyone could tell me why these solutions work (I'm just curius).
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February 8, 2010 5:26:47 PM

Start by recognizing the the information on your HDD is fully readable by your new system - it is not changed. That is, AS LONG AS you were NOT using a RAID drive array, but since you refer to ONE drive unit I expect you were not in RAID anything. There certainly could be an issue IF your original drive was set with a password to protect it from unauthorized access to the My Documents folder. Did you set that up? Then I would suppose you already know the password.

The root of the problem is that the fully readable info happens to have a few things wrong in the context of a new mobo. When Windows of whatever version is first installed, one of the important things done is to load with it drivers (software) for all the hardware devices in the system. Now your motherboard has many hardware devices that need drivers, and those all are on your old HDD suited to your old mobo. If you simply transplant that HDD onto a new mobo, odds are there will be some, possibly MANY devices that are different, and the wrong drivers will be loaded from the old HDD.

One way this can be solved, often successfully, is a Repair Install. To do this you need the original Install CD used to install your Windows, and an optical drive to run it. Having installed the old drive in the new mobo, you boot from the Windows Install CD in the optical drive. BUT do NOT do a normal Install. Look for the option of a Repair Install and do that. It will look at the hardware devices currently found and the drivers already installed on the HDD, and try to correct all the mismatches. This at least will get you running in most cases. Then to be more secure, you should really download from the mobo maker's website all of the latest drivers for your mobo and update every one of them, just in case the older drivers on the Windows Install CD are out of date.

This process solves the problem of being able to load and run Windows properly, with all the correct device drivers, from the HDD. When that is done, all the rest of the HDD's info is all there, ready to use. If you had password protection on folders, you'll need to use that to get into them.

There are times when this process does NOT work - the driver mismatch problem is just too complex. In those cases the only good solution is to re-install the entire Windows OS. Now, doing that on your old drive will most certainly wipe out its old files, DON'T DO IT! That is where fihart's solution is best. Buy and install a new drive and do NOT install your old one. Install Windows, whatever version, to this brand new empty drive. Once the machine is running this way, THEN you install the old drive as a second unit, and it will show up in your new machine as just another drive full of files you can use. You then copy all your old data to folders on the new drive. Eventually, once you are SURE you have ALL old files copied that you want, you can wipe the old drive clean and continue using it as a second data storage device.

The third option, certainly more complex and therefore somewhat risky, is to try to clear out as much empty space as you can on your existing old drive in the old machine. Then you use some third-party software utility to shrink the Partition now called the C: drive, leaving some Unallocated Space on that HDD unit, and convert that to a new second Partition. If you can make this large enough, you can then use it as your "new drive". You replace your mobo and PSU, etc, install the old HDD unit, and install Windows on this new second Partition. Now your "new drive" and your "old drive" happen to be two Partitions on the same physical HDD unit. This process can work but it does risk problems that make the drive unreadable, so you lose everything unless you have a good backup first. That is why buying and installing a new physical HDD unit, and installing Windows to that, is safer. In that scenario all you are doing with the old HDD unit is installing it to a running system AFTER it is all working well, which has much less risk. But, even easier if it works (and it often does) is the Repair Install procedure that can "update" your existing Windows installation on the old HDD to work in a new environment.
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February 8, 2010 11:09:00 PM

Thank you for the very detailed and useful anwser that explained it a little better.
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February 8, 2010 11:09:18 PM

Best answer selected by darklink5510.
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February 9, 2010 11:50:41 PM

Well good news it worked and i'm able to access the information on the drive. (I put into a friends comp with thier drive and booted just fine with both) so it's nice and safe and now i can back it up. :D  :p  :)  :wahoo:  :sol: 
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February 10, 2010 7:19:25 AM

I'm a little hurt that you ultimately followed my early suggestion of putting the drive in a friend's computer but you gave the best reply to Paperdoc.

I have to admit he put a lot of work into his reply -- so perhaps fair.
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February 10, 2010 8:43:25 AM

Like all "pick the best answer" forums, its a flawed system. How can the person who doesn't know what he's doing come in and pick the best answer? I've seen then been given to people who answer totally wrong before. I don't mean to say he gave a wrong/bad answer, just saying its not a perfect system. He did try to fill in some blanks as the OP had asked, so look at it that way.
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