HD 4830 details and launch date revealed.

Don't think this has been posted, since I have been pretty active lately and haven't seen anything about it, so here it goes:

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Ra [...] /6070.html

ATI's performance numbers slide:

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Ra [...] /6072.html

I'm not too big on the way ATI makes those charts to make it look like it's as twice as fast compared to the competition, but I am pretty sure that those numbers are real and that's the kind of performance you'd come to expect from such a card. I guess this card will lock one of the two price points left for ATI to secure (sub $150) and alienate the poor 8800GT/9800GT/GT 140 (Yup, just pick your favorite name ), Still waiting for ATI to release the HD 4850 X2 to finally put the GTX 280 out of it's misery.

that's MSRP, expect it to be priced at around the same as the 8800GT/9800GT/GT 140, since it's the direct competitor to it.

The new drivers for October have a manual fan setting in them, so all this idle heat issue bunk is being dealt with

If it's priced in the 9800GT range, and provides better performance, while still giving all of the awesome HTPC functions, I think we might have a new winner for the frugal purchaser.

Thanks for pointing that out outlw6669.
Sorry emp

It was the bit about 1.6 x the performance per watt and then the highest point on the chart being 1.6 that threw me
Now if it had just said FPS up the side it would have helped

Mactronix

Yeah, AMD really needs a card to fill the gap between the 4670 and the 4850. The probably means we won't see any 4700 series cards for a while.

Those numbers are fake. Take that scale, plug into existing benchmarks of 4870, using 9800gt/8800gt as constant, and that 4830 outperforms 4870.

There is a major flaw with all of your comparisons:
4870 also cost more than 9800gtx+ and gtx260
4850 also cost more than 9800gtx and 8800gts
4670 also cost more than 8800gs/9600gso, and in this case, also perform slightly lower
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews [...] 70/26.html

Nvidia responds to everything ATI throws at it with a price drop. I just hope ATI would break out some more firepower so Nvidia can break the piggy bank. Good for us consumers.

We don't want a 4830 weakling. Give us the 5870x2.

Bah! Screw Nvidia. I don't care about their profits. So long as we get our good deals. How long do you think it will take for 9800gx2 to drop below $200?

hmmm...
Cheapest 9800GTX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814500037 $143 + $9 Shipping
Cheapest 8800GTS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814500004 $140 + $9 shipping
Cheapest HD4850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102770 $140 Free Shipping....

Cheapest HD4870: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121276 $240 + $9 Shipping
Cheapest GTX260: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814133229 $220 Free shipping.

Just because one card is *slightly* more expensive then another doesn't mean that it can't compete. It's the same price segment that people look for.

The HD5870x2 sounds awesome tho... has a sweet ring to it . Any1 know when it's supposed to hit? Not that I'd upgrade to it though... I'll probably be waiting until something like an HD 8870 1GB GDDR7 with core clocks at 1800Mhz and mem clocks at 1000Mhz which will be equivalent to something like 6000Mhz GDDR3

Why would you wait for something like that? It's meant to compete with the 8800gt, which is already $110. 8800gt is here now, not to mention lots of choices either slightly up or down.

And how exactly do you know that, without independently confirmed benchmarks? According to Nvidia, 9800gtx+ outperforms 4870, which is later confirmed to be false. Fanboys on either sides will trust the object of their worship. Intelligent people know they're both greedy corporations that try to make their product look good. They'd be idiots otherwise.

Also, again, by using 8800gt/9800gt as constant, and plugging in 4870's results from third party benchmarks into the new 4830 results while maintaining constant ratio, the 4830 outperforms 4870. It's fake.

well all this competition is got my head in a spin, uv got to love ATI instead of paying 600 £ not $ for the high end we,r paying £340 tops, and instead of nvidia giving something old a new name they will have to go back to the drawing board and start to innovate again

I'd say it's cause we have competition. nVidia should do that in 2 more gens according to what i've read on their roadmap and ATI will go back to the drawing table.

No need to bash nVidia, cause ATI is the same hog, lurking our pockets, but in a different way, lol.

Esop!

I was talking generally XD

My bad for not being clear on that

Esop!

Well, heres one thing for sure, with DX11 coming sometime next year, a few more DX10.1 games going to show up, and nVidia is stuck producing DX10 only at least until May, the who needs DX10.1 argument is coming to an end. At some point, it will become a factor, and if nVidias cards dont get it soon, all these "older" ATI cards will soooo obsolete any older nVidia cards, it wont even be funny. For when the next gen arrives, and both nVidia and ATI have DX11, and we see the effects from DX10.1 applied in games which result in higher fps, and the old nVidias dont have it, I hope theyll have sold all their old stock, otherwise ATI will rule even moreso with their old cards, and will clear their stocks much faster. Thats something nVidia has to keep an eye on as well

Thats true enough. Im basically talking marketing tho. If nVidia doesnt come in with a killer solution next gen, and ATI is still running strong, all the average Joes who are casual gamers will be told this and buy them up, as opposed to something much older and out of line with the current. Its not a major issue, and sorry if anyones thought it was, but its just another crack in nVidias armor. All these things will add up

I agree that its been shown in best light by ATI. But look at the orevious ones from them. It showed the 4850 beating the 8800GT. The rest is history. Theres no doubt this card will beat a GT. Hopefully itll be priced right as well

yes i agree with dagger the benchmarks are not fake