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should I trade in my 8800gtx for a 4870?

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a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2008 1:47:05 AM

I currently have a evga 8800gtx superclocked, but was thinking of upgrading the videocard. Would it be better to pick up a 4870 1gb card for x-mas, or wait another 6 months? Would the 4870 be that much of an improvement to justify spending the money now? the 4870 cards are a steal at $300...which is why I was thinking of that card instead of the gtx 280 ($450)

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October 4, 2008 1:58:56 AM

It's around 25-35% increase in fps going from 8800gtx to 4870. You'll certainly notice it, although I wouldn't think the difference is worth $300. Gtx280 performed higher, but it's hard to justify that $450.

The one option most people don't look at much is 9800gx2, at $280.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Performance, at a notch above gtx280, *might* just be high enough to justify an upgrade over your existing 8800gtx. While the $280 price tag is very high, it's not quite as hard to swallow.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=13
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October 4, 2008 2:24:16 AM

OK, maybe a dumb question, but when did you get your 8800GTX? Since you bought an Evga card you have 120 days to step-up to a 9800GX2 (only 90 days for other cards).
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a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2008 2:31:39 AM

I bought it last November. Unless something has changed the step up program was only 90 days. I got stuck in the fact that the 8800 ultra cards got discontinued from evga right after I bought this card...and the 9800gx2 came out in March...so basically I was unable to step up in the 90 days after I bought the 8800gtx superclocked.

As for the performance vs. the gtx 280...I have a x38 motherboard (ASUS Maximus Extreme)...so in 6 months I can always pick up a second 4870 card for crossfire. No option for Sli.

Or I can just wait for 6 months and see what's out then. But Fallout 3 and Farcry 2 would look sooo much better...
October 4, 2008 2:43:29 AM

japps2 said:
I bought it last November. Unless something has changed the step up program was only 90 days. I got stuck in the fact that the 8800 ultra cards got discontinued from evga right after I bought this card...and the 9800gx2 came out in March...so basically I was unable to step up in the 90 days after I bought the 8800gtx superclocked.

As for the performance vs. the gtx 280...I have a x38 motherboard (ASUS Maximus Extreme)...so in 6 months I can always pick up a second 4870 card for crossfire. No option for Sli.

Or I can just wait for 6 months and see what's out then. But Fallout 3 and Farcry 2 would look sooo much better...


It depends on how rich you are. If it's me, I'd probably either just get the 9800gx2 or ride it out with the old 8800gtx until ATI release the 5000s generation, which should drop prices for 4000s. Just look at how 9800gx2 halved in price when the gtx200s came out. It still outperformed gtx280 for far less money. The best value is always one generation below bleeding edge. The smart money is on 4870x2 having similar drop once 5000s roll out. And since it's ATI instead of Nvidia, you can cf it. The only reason you couldn't apply this currently is because 3000s ATI cards are so bad it's not an option for high performance. The once $500 3870x2 has now dropped to $200 ar.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Giving that the price cut trend has held true again and again, the smart money is on it holding out one more time for 4870x2.
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2008 3:13:45 AM

wouldn't 2 4870 1gb cards in cf be actually cheaper than 1 4870x2? especially if I only got one now and deferred the other one for 6 months or so? when are the 5000's rumored to be released?
October 4, 2008 3:24:30 AM

japps2 said:
wouldn't 2 4870 1gb cards in cf be actually cheaper than 1 4870x2? especially if I only got one now and deferred the other one for 6 months or so? when are the 5000's rumored to be released?


Then you're paying $300 now, plus whatever price it settles at in 6 month. Historically, single gpu cards don't drop in value as much as x2 cards in the same period of time. But let's say it'll be $150 by then, that's $450 total.

A 4870x2 cost $520 now, and around half that much later ($260?), if trends hold true.

The advantage of 2 4870s, is, of course, you get one 4870 now, instead of using the 8800gtx. However, considering the performance difference between 8800gtx and single 4870, then the final price difference of the 2 routes, it might be more cost effective to make do with 8800gtx.

There is also the possibility of saving the second pcie slot for second x2.
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2008 4:49:33 AM

The difference is, nVidias current cards ARE the GTX2 etc. They still make them, and they have to compete with ATI. When the 5xxx series comes, the 4xxx series will be EOL.
October 4, 2008 5:58:44 AM

japps2 said:
I currently have a evga 8800gtx superclocked, but was thinking of upgrading the videocard. Would it be better to pick up a 4870 1gb card for x-mas, or wait another 6 months? Would the 4870 be that much of an improvement to justify spending the money now? the 4870 cards are a steal at $300...which is why I was thinking of that card instead of the gtx 280 ($450)

What's wrong with an 8800GTX? What games can you not max or high?

If I were you, I would wait until at least the ATI 58xxx series until I upgrade; the 8800GTX is still a pretty awesome card :D 
October 4, 2008 10:29:55 AM

I faced the same dilemma a while back. I have a 8800GT superclocked. I ended up convinced that it wasn't time to upgrade yet. The performance increase you get from HD4870 or HD4870x2 or GTX280 aren't enough to justify their costs.

My 8800GT still serves me pretty well at 1920*1200 (not Crysis, but I don't care), I'm waiting for the next generation cards to come out before I upgrade.


8800GTX > 8800GT, hang on with it. It can handle most everything but Crysis. For all other new games, just don't turn on AA and it should be able to handle it fine.
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