"The first leaks were that the Phenom II could hit 4 GHz on air cooling alone, though we obviously wonder how extreme that air cooling is. Well today AMD had some actual demonstrations at their gathering, and the Phenom II was able to hit 5 GHz at 1.6v by using LN2 cooling. So with some pretty extreme cooling the Phenom II does show that it has some legs in the clockspeed department. "
We want Deneb to be a great performer too ... but the point about recycled links is getting us down.
When will people realise LN cooling is just useless crap anyway?
W want to know how well it goes on decent aftermarket air cooling, and how well it goes on water. A few might venture to a phase cooling rig ... but I have been there and killed too many parts myself.
I am more interested in air and water ... stick your fire and earth ... um woops.
Fire cooling. Just can't get enough use out of those 4 elements like back in the days of Empedocles.
Seriously, you said in a nutshell what I said in an earlier thread in twice as many words. Regardless of whether I overclock (and I don't -- I like stock speed improvements with new stepping and die shrinks), I find the results a fun read, unless it's on liquid nitrogen. That's so not possible on most of our desktops and I'm sure no one uses it for day to day use.
The only purpose liquid nitrogen cooling serves is to inflate Futuremark scores to even more worthless levels.