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last check before I order, could you guys give your input on my build

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September 10, 2008 4:22:08 PM

Mainly looking to do auto cad, and maybe the latest games, but nowhere near a hardcore gamer (startcraft two 2m maybe try this crysis)I don't have the time anymore, Mostly lookin for budget build . that will last for atleast 4-5 years without MAJOr (over 100) upgrade years between. want a 22 screen any suggestions? if anybody finds better tweaks or deals please send'em but I'm ready to order today. Thanks guys



combo case plus psu, can up grade psu in a year or so if needed, could this 550 run just what I have here plus a possible dual sli/crossfire visiontek hd4850? nothing else, beside a lan or sound card later on
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKA1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 550W Power Supply

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKA1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 550W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119142
$149.99-$40.00 Instant $109.99=shipping 20 =129

Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $84.99

VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate

$184.99

CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate

$84.00
$79.00

ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

$139.99

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail

$189.99

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk $99
total=940.96 w/s but w/o monitor
September 10, 2008 4:33:18 PM

Look at previous thread, I adjusted your Case/PSU to a better setup! And it'll only cost you $8 more. the Antec PSU is a Tier 2/3 PSU and the CM is a Tier 4 (not recommended) for quality. See my link below (PSU Tiers). Not sure what the amps on the 12V rail(s) are for the CM PSU, but I know the Antec 500 Earthwatss PSU has 34A combined, which is plenty for your build. The Antec PSU that I linked before comes with a 3 yr. warranty and the CM PSU only has a 1 yr. warranty. I think the Antec PSU is better, but that will be up to you to decide. I've had NO issues with returns on Antec PSU's. I even bought one on ebay and returned it within the 3 yr. period and was happily rewarded with a new one!!! Hard to beat that customer service!!
September 10, 2008 4:42:22 PM

Very nice case, but CoolerMaster PSUs aren't so great, although they aren't cheap system-killers. It is probably not quite good for its labeled rating, although it is probably enough for a single 4850. For Crossfire, you'll want 600W-650W. A PSU from Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, or PC Power & Cooling would be good.
To avoid potential grief, make sure your RAM will operate at the JEDEC standard 1.8V. If yours doesn't, Mushkin and A-Data both make sets that do. Personally, I prefer Mushkin, as the timings are better.
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September 10, 2008 4:59:45 PM

I could have swore it said 5 year..ok I'll adjust it it was mainly a saving via case combo and shipping.
September 10, 2008 5:00:50 PM

Well I don't really have time but I'll adjust and actually order in a few hours gues I'll prob have to wait till nextr week for it to arrive. Thanks luny one, and all who responded to the privous thread as well.
September 10, 2008 6:02:42 PM

just to point out, that tier post you referenced is apparently based soley on brand recognition and anecdotal evidence, not any sort of scientific testing.

For example, want to know how good a power supply is? what is it's mean time to failure? what is the tested eff vs advertised eff, max sustained output vs advertised sustained output... whatever. That post doesnt include any shred of this. Take it with a dump truck of salt
September 10, 2008 6:28:15 PM

Having read all the technically competent PSU reviews I can find (i.e. the ones that include load testing, output waveforms, etc), on jonnyguru, hardocp, hardwaresecrets, and a few others, I've not seen anything to contradict the tiered listing. Yes, it is old, so there are newer models. There may be some hidden gems on the lower tiers (I had good results from a couple of Aspire 500W PSUs, but they were only loaded to maybe half that). While the final word is best obtained from a review of the specific model, the list remains a safe place to start.
September 10, 2008 6:55:13 PM

merc4now said:

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKA1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 550W Power Supply - Retail $149.99-$40.00 Instant $109.99=shipping 20 =129
Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $84.99
VisionTek 900241 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk $99



Get the RC-690 without PSU for only $77 with free shipping: http://www.buy.com/prod/cooler-master-690-without-power-supply/q/loc/101/206177908.html
Also get a 750TX for $92: http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-750w-atx-12v-power-supply-corsair-tx-cmpsu-750tx-atx12v/q/loc/101/206178325.html
This costs you $169 instead of $129, but you get a top-quality PSU with the power and the connectors you need for HD 4850 Crossfire. You can't do Crossfire with the 550W CoolerMaster, and its quality isn't that impressive either.

The rest of your choices are absolutely beautiful :) 


Edit: OK, just in case CoolerMaster PSUs do have people who love them, and they read what I just said: technically, you CAN do HD 4850 Crossfire with the CoolerMaster 550W PSU. It has the two 6-pin connectors and the minimum 550W recommended by Visiontek and others for HD 4850 cards. However, getting the minimum PSU is usually a bad idea. With the 750TX you can add as many disks and fans as you please without worries. It would also let you combine HD 4850 with HD 4870, if that interests you, later when HD 4870 is cheaper. Also, it won't run close to maximum i.e. with more heat/more noise/lower efficiency.
There's also a 650TX for $72. http://www.buy.com/retail/usersearchresults.asp?querytype=home&qu=650tx&qxt=home&display=col


September 10, 2008 7:31:01 PM

I posted this in your original thread.

Wanker79 said:
I think you're getting close, but I'd still suggest a couple changes. First, you don't want an IDE DVD you want it to be SATA (mainly for airflow purposes). You'll be cutting it a bit close with a 550W PSU, and if you're looking for longevity the PSU is one of the few components that won't be outdated by new tech any time soon which makes it a prime candidate to spend extra for furture proofing. And that's good RAM, but there's a better choice. And the P5Q Pro is a very nice mobo, but the GA-EP45-DS3R has a MIR right now. I'd suggest the following...

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
CPU = $190 w/ free shipping

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3R
MoBo = $110 (after MIR) + $10 shipping

mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 5-4-4-12@1.8V
RAM = $69 (after MIR) w/ free shipping

HIS Hightech HD 4850
GPU = $155 (after MIR) w/ free shipping

Seagate ST3640323AS 640GB
HDD = $85 w/ free shipping

SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA
Disc Drive = $28 w/ free shipping

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX
PSU = $110 (after MIR) w/ free shipping

Thermaltake Wing RS 101
Case = $56 w/ free shipping

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
OS = $100 w/ free shipping

ASUS VW222U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD
Monitor = $210 (after MIR) w/ free shipping

Grand Total = $1123 shipped (after MIRs)

September 10, 2008 7:37:40 PM

aevm said:
Get the RC-690 without PSU for only $77 with free shipping: http://www.buy.com/prod/cooler-master-690-without-power-supply/q/loc/101/206177908.html
Also get a 750TX for $92: http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-750w-atx-12v-power-supply-corsair-tx-cmpsu-750tx-atx12v/q/loc/101/206178325.html
This costs you $169 instead of $129, but you get a top-quality PSU with the power and the connectors you need for HD 4850 Crossfire. You can't do Crossfire with the 550W CoolerMaster, and its quality isn't that impressive either.

The rest of your choices are absolutely beautiful :) 


Edit: OK, just in case CoolerMaster PSUs do have people who love them, and they read what I just said: technically, you CAN do HD 4850 Crossfire with the CoolerMaster 550W PSU. It has the two 6-pin connectors and the minimum 550W recommended by Visiontek and others for HD 4850 cards. However, getting the minimum PSU is usually a bad idea. With the 750TX you can add as many disks and fans as you please without worries. It would also let you combine HD 4850 with HD 4870, if that interests you, later when HD 4870 is cheaper. Also, it won't run close to maximum i.e. with more heat/more noise/lower efficiency.
There's also a 650TX for $72. http://www.buy.com/retail/usersearchresults.asp?querytype=home&qu=650tx&qxt=home&display=col

couldn't have said it much better myself. I was just trying to point out that the CM PSU's (lower models) aren't always dependable. The Corsair 650 and 750tx models are great and if you can afford the difference than I'd do it. I was just trying to keep within your budget on your last build. If you can afford the $40 more than by all means do it!!
September 10, 2008 8:10:39 PM

lunyone said:
Not sure what the amps on the 12V rail(s) are for the CM PSU, but I know the Antec 500 Earthwatss PSU has 34A combined, which is plenty for your build. The Antec PSU that I linked before comes with a 3 yr. warranty and the CM PSU only has a 1 yr. warranty.
The COOLER MASTER Real Power on the PSU Tiers listing isnt the same PSU as the CM Real Power Pro 550 mentioned in the first post.
COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro 550 does have a 5 year warranty.


And it has 36A combined +12V (and 660W peak output)

It's not exactly fair to use the PSU Tiers listing to beat up a PSU not even listed there.

[:wr2] That said, I do agree with the Corsair TX model recommendations to get the best quality and $$value.
CMPSU-650TX $72.73 a/r vs. CM Real Power Pro 550 $90 ($106 with shipping @ NewEgg)
September 10, 2008 8:30:32 PM

Your build looks great!! The power supply (the original 550w you listed) may work fine, but you'll be pushing it to 100% load. That means less efficiency, shorter life, and more heat.

If you go overkill (i.e. get something with more output than you need) it'll only run at say, 70-80% of its duty (and probably be more efficient that way), last longer, and possibly run cooler.

Keep your eyes peeled. I just picked up an Antec TPQ-850 a week ago from NewEgg.com for $111!! It's a great PSU, and 850W. Don't think its still on sale like that now, but keep your eyes open.
September 10, 2008 9:39:11 PM

ok back from a really long, job interview. PSU's.. yeah Iknow they are pretty inportant, my last one was an antec gold series (5 years ago). I saw alot of the threads before and did readm them (I apologize about reposting another I was just really redy to order and for the most part lunyone was the only on anwering my q's, so I figured since I had a base ideal I'd repost to see some new ideals. As for your build wanker, and future build offers, I'm really looking for really good backed products with solid no BS warranties 3-5 years. Yours was right on the moey with the budget but I don't see a warranty on the GPU and I don't remeber HIS at all, but then again I didn't know alot about visiontek either. I can budge some here and there but $40 per item starts to add up. I'll revise my build in a few minutes and hoope you gys will still give some informative and honest reviews. I'll sacrifice a litttle more money for QUALITY. That's mainly why I asked you guys. There are so many players in the game I have no ideal who's a garage startup gone global and who's a global company dieing fast..ie I didn't know that about abit, they were one of my first pc build boards back in the mid nintys.
September 10, 2008 11:13:39 PM

Quick for those who know, what is the better choice I'm ok with all the prices on each after MIR and shipping, so which is bteer for future SLI and my motherboard cpu selections and I have the 690 order though it wasn't free shipping unless I wanted to wait 7-10 days. I need this now. so I paid 81 with next day shiping not terrible but really which psu is best? free shipping on all

Corsair 750 tx mir $109.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermaltake W0116RU 750W mir 109
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SILVERSTONE ST70F 700W ATX12V / EPS12V 99.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
September 10, 2008 11:32:12 PM

[:wr2] Corsair 750TX 60Amps and 4x 6+2pin PCI-e connectors
Thermaltake W0116RU 750W has just 2x 6pin PCI-e connectors. Does have modular (detachable) cables.
SILVERSTONE ST70F has 50Amps and 4x 6pin PCI-e connectors and 1 8pin PCI-e connector. 50Amps

September 10, 2008 11:33:55 PM

ok ordered the thermaltake better warranty and modular.

ood caLL on the dvd burner I didn't even notice I click the wrong one. Thanks

Should be here saturday I hope. thanks for all the input guys hope you can all help when I put it together, hey do theystill use cpu compound?
September 11, 2008 1:22:00 PM

The stock Heat Sink/Fan (HSF) will come with a thermal interface (usually a pad) preapplied. You only really need aftermarket thermal compound with you're installing an aftermarket HSF.
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