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December 3, 2008 12:21:02 AM

Does anyone know if core i7 is coming to laptops anytime soon?

I'm looking at getting a new laptop and was hoping to get either core i7 if possible or if not, maybe it will drive prices down on current laptop offerings.

Thoughts? I googled and couldn't come up with much about the topic.

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December 3, 2008 1:00:10 AM

Well, not anytime "soon"...prob not until Q2 of 2009 at least.
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December 3, 2008 1:14:21 AM

arent there 45nm quad for laptops?
performance and portability doesn't go in pair :p 
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December 3, 2008 1:14:46 AM

I'd be very surprised if i7 ends up on any laptops in the near term, or mid term in their current form, unless they scale down ALOT better than they scale up. They are just too hot and consume too much power. Performance isn't everything, especially for mobile.
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December 3, 2008 1:35:06 AM

What do you plan to use your laptop for? If it isn't for extreme high end desktop replacement I don't think I'd want i7, laptop cooling is just too terrible for such a hot chip.
December 3, 2008 1:44:29 AM

Haha, I don't know what I was thinking...No need for an i7 laptop
December 3, 2008 4:39:05 AM

Well primary use will be taking notes for school (I know I dont need much performance for that) but also in between classes I'll be doing some gaming and such. Figured it wouldn't hurt to have a higher performance laptop for that. I'll probably just settle for a core 2 duo T5800 or maybe P8100 if I can afford it. Put the limitations in games I can play to good use of free time to study I suppose.
December 3, 2008 4:43:06 AM

Im sure Alienware or similar will put one in the "desktop replacment" machines and charge 8 grand for it.
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December 3, 2008 6:46:08 AM

piesquared said:
I'd be very surprised if i7 ends up on any laptops in the near term, or mid term in their current form, unless they scale down ALOT better than they scale up. They are just too hot and consume too much power. Performance isn't everything, especially for mobile.


What do you mean by that? One of the main points of i7 was to scale down and up to basically all market segments, and as there aren't any multi socket nehalem boards yet, we don't know how they scale up. I think the laptop parts aren't due for a while though.
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December 3, 2008 6:52:31 AM



Intel havent even got core 2 quads in laptops yet although there are appearing soon...

I core 7 proberly wont be release until the first or second quarter in 2010...

Intel needs to be sorted on its desktop platform first and it will take native 8 cores to get to the market before Intel even think about i core in laptops..

Dont forget the Core 2 Quad has still got alot of life left in it still and keeps up with all software even the legend Q6600 which i assume the first laptop centrino quad will be compared to...

I wouldnt hang around for it if i were you, go for a core 2 quad when its available...

December 11, 2008 6:55:55 PM

There are Intel quad core processors for laptops. It's in the Intel® Core™2 Quad mobile processor range, and the Intel® Core™2 Extreme mobile processor range.
They go up to 2.53GHz Quad-cores.

And I'm pretty sure I read somewhere (very trusted source) that i7 is coming out for laptops sometime next year probably (2009). And of course a good laptop like that is going to get hot. Get a cooling pad or a USB cooling stand or something like that from somewhere like Belkin. But any laptop will get hot. Put it on your bed or the sofa or something like that, and it will get hot. Make sure it gets plenty of ventilation, especially around the fan.
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December 11, 2008 7:19:55 PM

Keep in mind though that one of core i7's greatest benefits is actually that it has a greatly reduced idle and low load power. Because of that, it should be well suited to laptops, where full load isn't that often of an occurrence. Also, I would imagine a dual core variant would show up for laptops as well as the higher end quad cores.
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December 23, 2008 6:49:19 PM

cjl said:
Keep in mind though that one of core i7's greatest benefits is actually that it has a greatly reduced idle and low load power. Because of that, it should be well suited to laptops, where full load isn't that often of an occurrence. Also, I would imagine a dual core variant would show up for laptops as well as the higher end quad cores.



And the pentium 4 was a run away success with the heat situation in a laptop...

The heat throttled the processor and the battery life was absolute pants...

It wasnt until pentium M came out that things became good...

Then Centrino platform came out things got a whole lot better for battery life and heat etc etc...


I-Core 7 in a laptop will have power and heat issues... There for thinking about it the new laptop chip will not be far off a Q8200 with 95 watts ( It should be even lower ).

Now Core 2 Duo chips for what i understand the fastest laptop chip only has a 35 watt draw so theyre gonna have to go some with a quad laptop chip let alone i-core 7.

Right ok, got it...

Some one has put desktop processors in a laptop with a socket 775 socket..

DESKTOP PROCESSORS ARE NOT LAPTOP PROCESSORS.....

The are prone to head throttle and there for end up being slower than there pc counterparts.. Also PCs dont cost $4000 for a quad core system....

These are why Core 2 Duo laptop chips are so good....

I recon there will be a quad core in the not to distant future which will be 50 watt ish but im sure it wont be based on a i core 7 and it will need to be at least 32 nm in die design

U7500, 1.06 GHz, 2 MB L2, 533 MHz FSB, VT - 10 Watts
U7600, 1.20 GHz, 2 MB L2, 533 MHz FSB, VT - 10 Watts
L7200, 1.33 GHz, 4 MB L2, 667 MHZ FSB, VT - 17 Watts
L7300, 1.40 GHz, 4 MB L2, 800 MHZ FSB, VT, DAT
L7400, 1.50 GHz, 4 MB L2, 667 MHZ FSB, VT - 17 Watts
L7500, 1.50 GHz, 4 MB L2, 800 MHZ FSB, VT, DAT
T5200, 1.66 GHz, 2 MB L2, 533 MHZ FSB
T5300, 1.73 GHz, 2 MB L2, 533 MHZ FSB
T5450, 1.67 GHz, 2 MB L2, 667 MHz FSB - 35 Watts
T5470, 1.60 GHz, 2 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB - 35 Watts
T5500, 1.66 GHz, 2 MB L2, 667 MHZ FSB - 34 Watts
T5600, 1.83 GHz, 2 MB L2, 667 MHZ FSB, VT - 34 Watts
T7100, 1.80 GHz, 2 MB L2, 800 MHZ FSB, VT, DAT
T7200, 2.00 GHz, 4 MB L2, 667 MHZ FSB, VT - 34 Watts
T7250, 2.00 GHz, 2 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB, VT, DAT - 35 Watts
T7300, 2.00 GHz, 4 MB L2, 800 MHZ FSB, VT, DAT
T8100, 2.10 GHz, 3 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB, VT, DAT - 35 Watt
T7400, 2.16 GHz, 4 MB L2, 667 MHZ FSB, VT - 34 Watts
T7500, 2.20 GHz, 4 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB, VT, DAT
T7600, 2.33 GHz, 4 MB L2, 667 MHZ FSB, VT - 34 Watts
T7600G - as T7600 but with free selectable multiplier (for overclocking)
T8300, 2.40 GHz, 3 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB, VT, DAT - 35 Watts
T7700, 2.40 GHz, 4 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB, VT, DAT
T7800, 2.60 GHz, 4 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB, VT, DAT
T9300, 2.50 GHz, 6 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB, VT, DAT - 35 Watts
T9400, 2.50 GHz, 6 MB L2, 1066 MHz FSB, VT, DAT
T9500, 2.60 GHz, 6 MB L2, 800 MHz FSB, VT, DAT - 35 Watts

-> Intel product informations
December 23, 2008 8:35:22 PM

http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320...

These are specs for the quad mobile processors. TDP is listed on page 67.

Q9100 (2.26GHz, 12MB L2) 35W
QX9300 (2.53GHz, 12MB L2) 45W

These are not desktop processors. They use socket P and are 45nm parts with the newer E0 stepping. Voltage is officially 1.05-1.175V. They came out just this past summer.

I think Intel just wants to bring out i7 slowly - get the most out of its Penryn line before retiring it. Reviews indicate the i7 has superior performance per watt, and we're not even at the second retail stepping.
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December 24, 2008 10:02:51 AM

WR said:
http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320...

These are specs for the quad mobile processors. TDP is listed on page 67.

Q9100 (2.26GHz, 12MB L2) 35W
QX9300 (2.53GHz, 12MB L2) 45W

These are not desktop processors. They use socket P and are 45nm parts with the newer E0 stepping. Voltage is officially 1.05-1.175V. They came out just this past summer.

I think Intel just wants to bring out i7 slowly - get the most out of its Penryn line before retiring it. Reviews indicate the i7 has superior performance per watt, and we're not even at the second retail stepping.


Wow, i wasnt far off the 50 watt was I.. but to do it with 45nm just means what this die can do..

lets that hope that they bring it to the desktop platform hmpc's would get a boost from this..

With a big enough heat sink it could be passively cooled.
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July 19, 2009 5:51:39 AM

i bet the battery life is pants -

it takes 4 hard disks - geez and its got 3 ram slots -must be a monster

its not bad for the money tho..
July 19, 2009 6:51:57 AM

or he could wait for mPGA989, but then again, 1.6GHz core i7's, what the hell were they smoking?
August 4, 2009 4:28:58 AM

I have been eyeballing the Sager NP9280 which you could customize with the i7-975. I have had good notebooks from this company in the past. The only drawback is the price and the weight. They are expensive and typically heavy. They are indeed desktop replacements and my experience is that they are as fast and many times faster than an equally equiped desktop. The configuration I am building is a bit over $4K (Core i7-975, 6GB Triple Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz, 350G x3 RAID-0). I have used Sager notebooks for CAD/CAM/CAE applications. (very processor intensive as well as hard drive access intensive, therefore the various RAID configurations that are available are very much desired feature. As for the video, it comes standard with the Nvidia GeForce GTX 280M Graphics with 1GB DDR3 Video Memory which is not the hottest out there but it far exceeds my requirements. The base configuration is about $2,300 and is still quite a screamer with the i7-920 and 3Gig of ram and 250GB HDD. (I am in San Diego, so I can actually drive to the factory to pick up my unit)
I hope this helps.
August 11, 2009 4:09:00 AM

Just for folks who have been wondering, Wikipedia has a good breakout of the Quad-core i7 mobile processors due out sometime in 2009 Q4 (hopefully October!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_Intel_micro...

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/302/074/html...

They'll be speedy. They'll suck more battery and generate more heat than the current 35W mobile processors (45W TDP for the Core i7-720QM and Core i7-820QM, 55W TDP for the top-level Core i7-920XM), but will surely be lighter / longer-lasting-battery / cooler than the current laptops that try to use the 130W desktop processors.
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August 11, 2009 4:16:00 AM

Actually, the increased TDP won't be as obvious as you might think. They do have an increased TDP compared to current offerings, but the chipset will have significantly less draw, which will at least partially offset the additional power used by the processor.
August 23, 2009 1:50:44 AM

I think think this link would help out also.
http://www.falcon-nw.com/
Look thought this website, they have a i7 laptop. Best out there.
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August 23, 2009 9:16:32 PM



Funny enough, they are all the same chassis.

It is a Clevo D900F chassis. You buy the base with no processor, ram or hard disk.

Then you put in what you want...

Alienware use Clevo chassis so theyre one will be based on the same model with a alienware logo on the back..

http://review.zdnet.com/product/laptops/avadirect-clevo...
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August 23, 2009 10:09:27 PM

but it could come close
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August 23, 2009 10:10:15 PM

thats the current top laptop
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