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New Rig, Vista x64 dead slow

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September 13, 2008 1:44:10 AM

Hey,

I built what I think is a very powerful system.
Biostar TPower I45 (ICH10R)
8 GB Geil ram (DDR2-PC8500)
Q9450 OC'd to 3,2 GHz
2 x 1 TB WD's in RAID0

I have one huge issue with this setup...
I want to be able to utilize every bit of the power at my disposal, including DirectX 10 for newer games.

The problem is the OS, I've benchmarked the disks in XP, I got easily 40/100(W/R), in Vista it is barely 5/20.

I use the Intel chipset raid bridge, ICH10R.

How can I speed this up?

- I've tested the disks separately one by one, then I had normal speeds.
- Replaced the motherboard, nothing should make it this slow.
- Reinstalled the OS(still Vista x64)

Thoughts?
September 13, 2008 1:58:40 AM

get a motherboard that isn't god-awful.

i have an ASUS Maximus II Formula (P45 & ICH10R like yours) and i get 115mb/s sustained reads on my RAID5 (4 seagate 7200.11 750s)....your RAID0 should be killing that
September 13, 2008 1:59:15 AM

I also tried with an MSI P45 Platinum, the same speeds on that one =/
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September 13, 2008 2:00:15 AM

i would assume the 2x1 tb drives are your primary, what driver are you using for the raid controller
September 13, 2008 2:04:33 AM

Intels latest, Intel Matrix Storage Manager with ICH10R, version 8.5.0.1015
September 13, 2008 2:25:34 AM

download HD Tune, get a good reading on how slow it is, im looking.....
September 13, 2008 2:29:51 AM

Make sure you get SP1.

My x64 system is much faster after sp1 for data transfers.

Slower in some apps, but data transfer is WAY faster.
September 13, 2008 2:30:05 AM

It didnt want to test write.

read:
minimum: 16,7 MB/s
maximum: 119,6 MB/s
avg: 70 MB/s

Access time: 17.1 ms
Burst rate: 105.5 MB/s

How is it my system is so sloooow with everything else if the drives are able to load this fast?
September 13, 2008 2:31:19 AM

xxjudgmentxx said:
get a motherboard that isn't god-awful.

i have an ASUS Maximus II Formula (P45 & ICH10R like yours) and i get 115mb/s sustained reads on my RAID5 (4 seagate 7200.11 750s)....your RAID0 should be killing that


That motherboard is fine. In fact, it's the current overclocking record holder (stable oc faster than "Asus Maximus II Formula," or any other board for that matter).
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7880.html

Since single drive runs normally, it's pretty clear the Raid setup is the problem. If all else fails, just run 2 hdds normally. People use normal hdds, it's not that slow. :p 
September 13, 2008 2:44:50 AM

perhaps drive indexing is on for...everything. try disabling that. if its a recent install it is trying to index all of your stuff.
September 13, 2008 2:48:08 AM

rockbyter said:
perhaps drive indexing is on for...everything. try disabling that. if its a recent install it is trying to index all of your stuff.


I've had that happen, but it shouldn't take too long though. There just aren't that much to index on a new install. Besides, if that's the case, it should slow down the single hdds as well.
September 13, 2008 3:04:24 AM

Have you tried benching the singlr drives prior to RAIDing them?
September 13, 2008 3:21:01 AM

read:
minimum: 16,7 MB/s
maximum: 119,6 MB/s
avg: 70 MB/s


Access time: 17.1 ms
Burst rate: 105.5 MB/s

These numbers really seem like a single drive, so without trying to be rude... are you sure you didn't actually mirror them instead of stripe. Meaning you only have 1 gb available instead of 2. Respect.
September 13, 2008 9:52:07 AM

Granite3, no I did not bench them prior to putting them in RAID, but they felt just as fast one by one.


Rockbyter; the C: drive is 1,8 TB =)

When I had the drives in RAID1(mirror) on my XP machine for 2 months, XP beat the hell out of this setup when it comes to speed...
September 13, 2008 10:29:53 AM

I installed the update for Intel Matrix Storage Mangager, it was fast for 1 minute, then the system bogged down again.

I've turned off indexing, AV, Defender, you name it, its still slow and no processses in memory :-|
September 13, 2008 11:06:18 AM

turn virtual memory off.i think thats the problem.
September 15, 2008 4:20:21 PM

I have the same issues with ICH10R,

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R
4 500GB in Raid-5
4 GB DDR2
8800GT

fresh build of vista 64-bit premium SP1

it was slow, I installed the Intel Matrix Storage manager 8.5.0.1032 and now see in the taskbar a icon with drives and the label "A volume initialization is in progress" so I am sure that is what is causing the slowness that is shown here:

HD Tune:

read:
minimum: 1.4 MB/s
maximum: 20.9 MB/s
avg: 9.5 MB/s


Access time: 18.0 ms
Burst rate: 62.8 MB/s


Thank to this thread, I installed IMSM and can see what is happening! Will post again when initialization is done., the IMSM says initialization 15% and it is not moving fast at all...

-mike
September 15, 2008 5:31:06 PM

thanks for hthe heads up, tho I dont see the icon =/

bios controlled raid or software?
September 15, 2008 7:42:01 PM

I am using the Intel bios raid of the ICH10R chipset.

The icon is a 3-phase animated gif, looks like a floppy, then to pair of 2-slice drives with bottom of both blue, and the top of the back red and top of front grey, then the bottom of both grey and the top of both blue.

September 15, 2008 9:14:35 PM

I found it under "C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel Matrix Storage Manager", it gives me volume OK, 100% health.

=/
September 16, 2008 3:39:39 AM

my raid-5 volume finally initialized 16 hours later, I ran the vista thing and still got only 5.9, then did a little reading and I guess that is all you can get.

new values for HD Tune:

read:
minimum: 8.4 MB/s
maximum: 162.5 MB/s
avg: 107.3 MB/s


Access time: 15.1 ms
Burst rate: 136.6 MB/s
cpu usage 3.5%


September 17, 2008 2:14:44 PM

Sooo... I tested the RAID-5 of the ICH10R accidentally just now... I wanted to connect two other drives to copy some partitions, and only had one e-sata cable, so I figured I would go direct to the motherboard, and I removed the sata cable for the array instead of the one goign to the back of the PC.......

good news, it popped up a taskbar message saying the raid array was degraded...
bad news... when i reconnected, it popped up a message that said rebuilding array... it has to rebuild ALL OVER.. 16 hours... ewwww... better than corruption, I guess...
!