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October 9, 2008 6:42:15 PM

Which graphic card is better in games with high graphics like Crysis and FiFA09?

SAPPHIRE HD 4870 512MB GDDR5

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GeForce 9800 GTX+

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a b U Graphics card
October 9, 2008 6:59:37 PM

go with the 4870
a b U Graphics card
October 9, 2008 7:05:10 PM

+1 to the 4870, however I'd get the 1GB verson.
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October 9, 2008 7:15:52 PM

don't go by toms' charts, they're completely horrible. but he's right, the 4870 is way better.
October 9, 2008 7:32:10 PM

I'm no expert, but is it even that close between those cards? Not to mention the price point difference. They are not even the same generation of competing cards.
a c 143 U Graphics card
October 9, 2008 7:35:18 PM

@0mg_1ts_m3: LOL at "completely horrible". Come on, they've put a lot of effort into them, be kind. :) 

@OP: Here's another chart:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=13
Crysis, 1680x1050, no AA, 35.6 fps for HD 4870 vs 31.6 fps for 9800GTX+.

Considering the prices, the 9800GTX+ looks good here. However, if you enable AA, the HD 4870 wins by a bigger margin. Check out the other charts in the review too. Don't base your decision on Crysis alone, OK?


a b U Graphics card
October 9, 2008 7:37:17 PM

you cant compare those cards more like gtx260 vs 4870. as for crysis nvidia cards perform better.
a c 143 U Graphics card
October 9, 2008 7:37:20 PM

Trialsking said:
I'm no expert, but is it even that close between those cards? Not to mention the price point difference. They are not even the same generation of competing cards.


Yeah, the closest nVidia equivalent to the HD 4870 is the GTX 260, not the 9800GTX+. The 9800GTX+ trades blows with the HD 4850 512MB.
October 9, 2008 7:41:47 PM

9800gtx+ is nowhere near the 4870...
even the 4850 is better than the 9800gtx+, excluding crysis.
October 9, 2008 8:02:42 PM

Nica Guy said:
9800gtx+ is nowhere near the 4870...
even the 4850 is better than the 9800gtx+, excluding crysis.

Indeed, this is a no brainer, 4870 all the way.

This is not to say the 9800GTX is a pis* poor card, it is still a good card, just not when comparing it to the newer cards released such as 4850/4870 and gtx260/280
October 9, 2008 8:42:55 PM

dude, ok, 4870 beats GTX260 and 4850 beats 9800GTX+

conclusion: BUY THE 4870!!!!!!
October 9, 2008 9:06:41 PM

Lol i think this guy is a ATI fanboy like most of us recently. He just wanted to hear that Nvidia's latest cards sucks. Come'on we know whos the beast between those two.
October 9, 2008 9:17:48 PM

cyber_jockey said:
He just wanted to hear that Nvidia's latest cards sucks.


even tho that statement is complete ****
October 9, 2008 10:48:54 PM

nvidia doesnt COMPLETELY suck though lol. theyre just kinda screwed at the moment xD
October 10, 2008 8:22:06 AM

Ok rambo maybe you right but have you heard anything about nvidia's right hand XFX ? How bout eVGA, foxcon, gainward the goes on.....
October 10, 2008 3:07:30 PM

I haven't seen a benchmark where the 4850 beats the 9800GTX+, explain.
October 10, 2008 6:34:14 PM

cyber_jockey said:
Ok rambo maybe you right but have you heard anything about nvidia's right hand XFX ? How bout eVGA, foxcon, gainward the goes on.....

i like nvidia and they make good quality products but right at the moment i probably wouldnt invest in their graphics cards due to ATI's offer which is so much faster and priced very competitively compared to nvidia.

im no fanboy, i just simply go witht he company that offers the best price/performance ratio. as should anyone:) 
a c 143 U Graphics card
October 10, 2008 7:01:31 PM

I read that XFX and Gainward broke the partnership with nVidia, but I didn't know about eVGA. Is that over too? That would be major bad news for nVidia, because eVGA and XFX were the best manufacturers of nVidia-based cards. Now I guess BFG is the only one I'd trust for an nVidia card :( 
October 10, 2008 7:17:10 PM

aevm said:
I read that XFX and Gainward broke the partnership with nVidia, but I didn't know about eVGA. Is that over too? That would be major bad news for nVidia, because eVGA and XFX were the best manufacturers of nVidia-based cards. Now I guess BFG is the only one I'd trust for an nVidia card :( 

oh yehhhhh, thats going to suck major for nvidia. XFX was a great representative for nvidia and loosing them would be crucial. i cant imagine what would happen if they lost evga to...
October 10, 2008 7:24:27 PM

The funny thing is Nvidia always manages to come out back on top and stay there much longer. I really don't care for a lot of the comparisons out there right now. 280 still romps the 4870 especially in Crysis (too much emphasis on performance in that game) and it takes two 4870's or X2 to really beat the 280. So what 2 against 1... don't think Nvidia is sleeping and a faster die shrunk version of the 280 is supposedly be due in the next few months. I would also expect a 260 or 280 X2 card after the die shrink. A lot of the preferences are based on price/performance and with prices changing daily it makes a lot of those statements invalid. Don't get me wrong... I like Nvidia but I have also owned Radeons and have gotten sucked into that Radeon is a little faster and cheaper than Nvidia trap before. At one point I paid $500 for a 512KB X1900XTX because it was a little faster and $300 cheaper than the 7900(?). Shortly after that Nvidia blew the shorts off ATI with the 8800GTX which reigned for a long time (and still gives a lot of the new cards a run for the money).

But to the original question I would for sure take the 4870 1gb over a 9800+. Actually I would probably take one of the now dirt cheap 8800GTX/Ultra's over the 9800.
October 10, 2008 7:57:05 PM

anartik said:
The funny thing is Nvidia always manages to come out back on top and stay there much longer. I really don't care for a lot of the comparisons out there right now. 280 still romps the 4870 especially in Crysis (too much emphasis on performance in that game) and it takes two 4870's or X2 to really beat the 280. So what 2 against 1... don't think Nvidia is sleeping and a faster die shrunk version of the 280 is supposedly be due in the next few months. I would also expect a 260 or 280 X2 card after the die shrink. A lot of the preferences are based on price/performance and with prices changing daily it makes a lot of those statements invalid. Don't get me wrong... I like Nvidia but I have also owned Radeons and have gotten sucked into that Radeon is a little faster and cheaper than Nvidia trap before. At one point I paid $500 for a 512KB X1900XTX because it was a little faster and $300 cheaper than the 7900(?). Shortly after that Nvidia blew the shorts off ATI with the 8800GTX which reigned for a long time (and still gives a lot of the new cards a run for the money).

But to the original question I would for sure take the 4870 1gb over a 9800+. Actually I would probably take one of the now dirt cheap 8800GTX/Ultra's over the 9800.

yehh and how much money do you think a 280GX2 would cost?? yehh, my point. that would be ridiculusly expencive and still the 4870 proves that it can beat 2 gtx280 at the high resolutions so i wouldnt be 2 amped on that new GTX280 model comming out. face it dude, the 4870x2 has the BEST price/performance ratio. along with the 4870.
October 10, 2008 8:02:49 PM

correction: 4870x2 proves to be able to beat 2 gtx280 in sli.
October 10, 2008 9:15:15 PM

Dayum i wana know which powerstation he wana borrow to run a 280x2 never mind the scorching heat.
October 10, 2008 9:21:58 PM

Anarik nvidia only manage to keep Ati down with its 8 series before that it was competition all the way buddy with ATI on top most of the time. Do some reading. And after the 8 series ? Well i think you know btw eVGA isn't exclusive nVidia anymore
October 10, 2008 9:22:12 PM

Anarik nvidia only manage to keep Ati down with its 8 series before that it was competition all the way buddy with ATI on top most of the time. Do some reading. And after the 8 series ? Well i think you know btw eVGA isn't exclusive nVidia anymore
October 10, 2008 10:36:35 PM

yah, ATI is and was leader for a lllooooonnggg time. the ati 9800xt totally owned everything nvidia had to offer and now ati has the 4870 for nvidia to try and handle.
and to think that one 280GTX is almost as much as a 4870 crossfire config or even a 4870x2... how much do you think TWO 280gtx on the same die is gonna cost..

yeh exactly;)
October 11, 2008 12:28:33 AM

anartik said:
The funny thing is Nvidia always manages to come out back on top and stay there much longer.



no ur just plain wrong there, it took nvidia 3 generations to get close to the 9700pro, when the 9700pro was released nvidia was on the ti4600 then the fx5700 or was it the fx5800 (cant remember) and then the 6800gt

so it can go back and fourth between the two
October 11, 2008 4:36:50 PM

i miss my old 9700pro, that thing was fffaassssttttt. of course doesnt compare to a 3870 but still, technology that old being able to run crysis?? thats pretty fast...
October 15, 2008 2:20:23 PM

I currently have a 4870 powering a 28" HannsG monitor and play Crysis, Crysis Warhead, COD 4, Bioshock. Playing either Crysis at 1600-1200, no eye candy, I experience a little choppiness, but nothing that really bothers me or game play. The water ripples, the leaves blow gently, I can pick out Psycho's facial hair and zits. Impressive. The other games play flawless. What a stepup in performance from CF 3870's. But being pretty loose in wanting to upgrade game visualizations and performance, I'm suckered into a 4870x2 purchase shortly. But I'm more than satified with the 4870. Q6600 OC'd to 3.0, Asus P5E MB, 4 gigs ram, 750 PSU, Vista 64 bit. Good luck Tito.
a c 143 U Graphics card
October 15, 2008 3:38:44 PM

Yuck, you paid $300 for zits :lol:  :lol: 
October 15, 2008 9:17:41 PM

thank you very very much for help and I will buy HD 4870.
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