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Mihow   09-15-2008 at 12:56:45 AM

AMD Phenom 9600+ (Quad Core) AM2+ 4MB Cache
Spire Kestrel-King II AMD 64 fan
BIOSTAR A770 A2+,PCI-EX, 1GB LAN (quad support)
4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 DDR2 800 Dual Channel
ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI Express 16x dual head, tv out
320.0GB Western Digital 7200RPM SATA2 UDMA 300 16m cache
Hard Drive Cooling Fan Aluminum Internal
Samsung LightScribe 20x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW (black)
AC 97 3D Full Duplex sound card (onboard)
Ethernet network adapter (onboard)
Antec Nine Hundred Black Case, Side Window, front USB & iEEE
Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)
Antec EarthWatts 500w Extra Quiet ATX Power Supply SLI Ready
Black Windows Keyboard, 104 key, PS/2
2-Button Wheel Mouse, PS/2 Black
Windows Vista 64-bit

I came in @ $851 and am extremely happy with the amount of money spent. My real concern is the performance of the CPU and if I could/should have gone a different route? I spend the majority of my time playing games (such as Crysis, WAR and Fallout 3 in the future) and the rest of my time watching/burning DVD's and all the misc. things that people do on a PC. Any advice for a first time PC builder would be very appreciated!

-Mihow

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geofelt   09-15-2008 at 01:59:08 AM
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Today, very few games can make use of more than two cores.
Flight simulator X and supreme commander are exceptions. It is not a trivial matter to code multi threaded programs,
and game vendors will not sell too many games that require quads to run.
I don't see this changing in the next couple of years.

Net: a fast core 2 duo like the E8400 for the increased clock speed.
Perhaps a gigabyte DS3L motherboard. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128334
these are a bit more expensive though.

You can save by using the Antec 300 case which cools as well or better than the 900. It has no "bling" though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129042



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aevm   09-15-2008 at 02:44:55 AM
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It looks good. Don't worry about CPU performance. I bet you'll only use it at 100% for a couple of minutes a week or so. The main thing for games is to get a good video card, and you did that.

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Mihow   09-15-2008 at 03:15:44 AM
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Today, very few games can make use of more than two cores.



That was actually my main question there. If most of the games in the near future will not be optimized for 4 cores, will I see a decrease in performance compared to having the same system but with say an Intel e8400?

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Ahslan   09-15-2008 at 03:44:17 AM
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If I were getting a phenom, I would have gotten a 9850, or one of the 9x50 series (the ones that dont suffer from TLB)...I have heard people having troubles with the 9600 BE but idk if its a matter of luck or not...

 

You definitely will be satisfied with the 4850 :)

 

I got the same video card and mobo and I'm loving my rig (although I dont have a Phenom....yet....lol)


Message edited by Ahslan on 09-15-2008 at 03:47:18 AM
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aevm   09-15-2008 at 03:51:20 AM
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Mihow wrote :


That was actually my main question there. If most of the games in the near future will not be optimized for 4 cores, will I see a decrease in performance compared to having the same system but with say an Intel e8400?

 

Yes, if you play at very small resolutions.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts [...] y,387.html

 

At larger resolutions with all eye candy maxed the limiting factor will usually be the video card and both CPUs will give you the same fps. And if games do become optimized, the Phenom will win.

 

If you go with Intel, at least get a Q6600. Dual cores are on the way out.

  



Message edited by aevm on 09-15-2008 at 03:53:40 AM
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Cyckik   10-06-2008 at 02:52:58 AM
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They might be on the way out but atm most games are optimized for dual-core. So I am buying dual core bc i dont think any games will be optimized for quad core for at least a year or so. By that time np to upgrade.

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Ahslan   10-07-2008 at 06:34:55 PM
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that is true, but if you have the money to get a quad core, why not get it? it obviously performs better in multitasking and multithreaded apps and quad cores are able to achieve the same clock frequency as dualies...


Message edited by Ahslan on 10-07-2008 at 06:35:20 PM
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