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G'day everyone. I've been a long time reader of articles on Tom's Hardware, and appreciate the knowledge that some people here have. :sol:

I recently bought a Sapphire 4870x2 to use in my new rig. Specs are as follows:

  • CPU: Intel Q9550 @ 2.83GHz [stock]
  • Mobo: GA-EP45-DS4P
  • RAM: 8GB Corsair DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15
  • PSU: 1200W GigaByte Odin Pro
  • HDD[s]: 1TB Samsung
  • OS: Vista x64 SP1
  • Drivers: 8.9


Before I received the 8GB RAM, I was using 2GB lent to me from a mate [the supplier shipped the wrong RAM initially]. Wanting to feel the power, I downloaded and fired up 3DMark06. I averaged 12000 marks, which in my expectations looked low. I was told that the RAM will be the problem there, so when I received the 8GB, I tested again and got ~15000 marks [still low imo]

Now to the problems.

  • I now get capacitor squeal when the gfx card is under load, and it's quite irritating. Searches on the net have show that it's quite a common problem, and RMA'ing it will not necessarily guarantee acknowledgement by the supplier or replacement with a card that doesn't have the same problem. I don't know whether to RMA it or not.


  • Crysis ingame performance is a joke. I know this is a badly written game etc etc, but according to benchmarks done by the guys here, they can achieve 30FPS at 2560 x 1600. I get just below 30FPS at 1152 x 864, which isn't great at all.


  • Using ATi Overdrive in CCC, I can see that the card has been underclocked by Sapphire to 507MHz GPU and 500MHz Mem, whereas it should be at 750MHz GPU and 900MHz Mem. I enable overdrive and apply the newer settings for both GPUs, however the display at the bottom of the window under 'Current Clock' still says the old values. Using GPU-Z, I can see that the primary GPU's clocks have been modified, but the second GPU has not changed at all.



The driver CD [version 8.8 I believe] didn't install the graphics drivers as it was supposed to, so I had to download 8.9 from AMD's website.


Thanks for reading; what are your opinions? I'm not exactly thrilled so far. :(

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your fps does seem a bit low in crysis although don't expect miracles and sure as hell not 30fps at 25 x 16 even on high, i would like to see that.

still, ignore 3dmarks and also, although maybe unfair you deserve a slap for not knowing something as basic as a card having a 2d and 3d mode and downclocking to save on power and heat.

personally i think you were assuming too much, however seeing as we have almost identical comps, i could perhaps run some games if we share any apart from crysis although i can run that at whatever settings you want if you like.

------------------------------ I'm a git, deal with it.

Antec 1200,PC Power & Cooling 750,Gigabyte DS4-x48,Intel Q9550@3.4 W/Xigmatek S1283,8GB OCZ DDR2 800,ATI 4870X2,X-FI>CA 640C amp>Tannoy R300/Senn 595's
Reply to strangestranger

uninstall drivers, reboot, use driver cleaner, reboot, install 8.9 drivers again ( or 8.9 RC2 drivers) which work exceptionally well, also make sure your PCIE slot is not being limited to 8x or 1x. One last thing, make sure Catalyst AI is enabled in the CCC. BTW those clocks are normal for the 4870X2, it goes into a power saving low-clock mode when not in gaming.

------------------------------ Core i7 920 @ 4.0Ghz - Asus P6T - 12GB Corsair XMS 3 - 2X ATI 58701GB Crossfire- Zalman 850W - X-FI Fatality Gamer Pro - Xigmatek Thor's Hammer - Raptor X 150 - WD Black 1TB OCZ Vertex Turbo 120 GB SSD - Cosmos S Case w/side window + 8X 120mm fans
Reply to annisman

Slap taken :D. Given that my last rig was a 2.66 Celeron with 1GB DDR400 RAM and a 128MB AGP gfx card, basically all of this is new to me.

 

I'm still wondering why it OCs only one GPU and not the other from what I can see, or is that all automatic too?

 

Well, I have quite a few games, but first, what FPS do you get in the Crysis benchmark test at 1280 x 1024 at 8xAA? We could start there if you want, just to see where we both stand in comparison.

 

@annisman: Thanks for the suggestions, but that's what I've already done. Also, thanks for the heads up regarding power save mode; as mentioned above, I had no idea :)


Message edited by jezza333 on 10-15-2008 at 01:23:34 AM
Reply to jezza333

TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 67.40s, Average FPS: 29.67
Min FPS: 16.78 at frame 138, Max FPS: 45.46 at frame 980
Average Tri/Sec: -17686060, Tri/Frame: -596051
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.54
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 62.58s, Average FPS: 31.96
Min FPS: 16.78 at frame 138, Max FPS: 50.89 at frame 80
Average Tri/Sec: -18729106, Tri/Frame: -586007
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.56
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 62.57s, Average FPS: 31.97
Min FPS: 16.78 at frame 138, Max FPS: 50.89 at frame 80
Average Tri/Sec: -18602182, Tri/Frame: -581928
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.58
!TimeDemo Run 3 Finished.
Play Time: 62.26s, Average FPS: 32.12
Min FPS: 16.78 at frame 138, Max FPS: 51.57 at frame 61
Average Tri/Sec: -18771556, Tri/Frame: -584390
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.57
TimeDemo Play Ended, (4 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

thats the time demo results although i don' think that gives a proper gameplay result, hopefully comparable though.

=============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 78.74s, Average FPS: 25.40
Min FPS: 16.20 at frame 1955, Max FPS: 35.34 at frame 859
Average Tri/Sec: -7086814, Tri/Frame: -279019
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -3.29
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 73.55s, Average FPS: 27.19
Min FPS: 16.20 at frame 1955, Max FPS: 35.93 at frame 1003
Average Tri/Sec: -7264278, Tri/Frame: -267157
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -3.43
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 73.55s, Average FPS: 27.19
Min FPS: 16.20 at frame 1955, Max FPS: 35.96 at frame 988
Average Tri/Sec: -7233448, Tri/Frame: -266006
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -3.45

that was 3 runs at 19x12, 4 x aa.

------------------------------ I'm a git, deal with it.

Antec 1200,PC Power & Cooling 750,Gigabyte DS4-x48,Intel Q9550@3.4 W/Xigmatek S1283,8GB OCZ DDR2 800,ATI 4870X2,X-FI>CA 640C amp>Tannoy R300/Senn 595's
Reply to strangestranger
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I'd like to point out that the card uses only one core when in windowed mode, so do your testing in full screen. Also there has been some odd behavior with the transition from 2d mode to 3d, sometimes it doesn't enable the second core at first try, might be driver related and might have been fixed with current drivers, not sure...

Reply to Kari

At 1280 x 1024 - 8xAA:
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 61.43s, Average FPS: 32.56
Min FPS: 16.45 at frame 145, Max FPS: 51.76 at frame 991
Average Tri/Sec: -21314604, Tri/Frame: -654697
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -1.40
TimeDemo Play Ended, (1 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

At 1900 x 1200 - 4xAA:

=============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 73.17s, Average FPS: 27.33
Min FPS: 17.99 at frame 1955, Max FPS: 36.36 at frame 854
Average Tri/Sec: -9161584, Tri/Frame: -335197
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.73
TimeDemo Play Ended, (1 Runs Performed)
==============================================================


It seems that my framerates basically correspond with yours, so my card seems to be fine in comparison. I guess with better drivers and coding [!] this card should see me through the immediate future.

Oh btw, this was done in full screen mode. 16qAA at 1900 x 1200 runs at the same rate as 4xAA [anti-aliasing on this card creams]

At 1900 x 1200 - 16qAA:

=============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 71.70s, Average FPS: 27.89
Min FPS: 15.11 at frame 143, Max FPS: 38.85 at frame 885
Average Tri/Sec: -9527718, Tri/Frame: -341557
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.68
TimeDemo Play Ended, (1 Runs Performed)
==============================================================


Just a quick question, how did the reviewers here at TH get 30 FPS at 2560 x 1600? [http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4870-x2-amd,1992-5.html]
I get the following:

At 2560 x 1600 - No AA:

==============================================================
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 2560x1600, AA=No AA, Vsync=Enabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=1, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: VeryHigh
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 95.45s, Average FPS: 20.95
Min FPS: 13.45 at frame 142, Max FPS: 26.00 at frame 872
Average Tri/Sec: -3784197, Tri/Frame: -180602
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -5.08
TimeDemo Play Ended, (1 Runs Performed)
==============================================================


Cheers.

Reply to jezza333
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