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yeah the new drivers seem to make gameplay on my secondary better, I always thought it was the CPU holding the card back
(sorta still is).
The new nvidia drivers are up as well, also 7-15%% increase in performance for sli and single GPU, also compatibility fixes with tri sli and Quad Sli
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_178.24_whql.h...
You kno what I think is a little weird, the min frame rate for my X2 is lower than 1 280 GTX, sometimes over, but not by alot...any1 know why?
All the Dual GPU cards I had were like this (the gx2 the worst...)
(sorta still is). The new nvidia drivers are up as well, also 7-15%% increase in performance for sli and single GPU, also compatibility fixes with tri sli and Quad Sli
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_178.24_whql.h...
You kno what I think is a little weird, the min frame rate for my X2 is lower than 1 280 GTX, sometimes over, but not by alot...any1 know why?
All the Dual GPU cards I had were like this (the gx2 the worst...)
Since the X2 is usually faster than a 280 in many games, it requires more from your cpu. It being a X2 , it requires even more. What youre seeing in your primary is normal. Increase your oc, and youll see maybe little or no minimum fps increases with the 280, but youd see more with the X2. Its a cpu slowdown is all. Thats providing the game scales well in SLI of course
yup crysis can be maxed out with the 4870 X with out stuttering for me 2. I still have drop downs compared to the 280 though, which is anoying, but on average it is about 25-30% faster than my 1 of my 280s, COD4 pushes that to almost 40% more, and grid the same.
The new driver is very neat
.
I heard though that AMD's increases in perfromance aren't as high as Nvidias there was a review I saw not long ago, I can't remember from where I'll google it and see if I can find it again.
Any opinions?
Don't put too emotion on the subject,
factually speaking.
We all know 280 GTX tri > 4870 X2 Quad > 280 GTX sli > 4870 X2 > 280 GTX etc....
I just want to kno if the review was true about the performance gains, I think it was THG that said it actually:S
The new driver is very neat
.I heard though that AMD's increases in perfromance aren't as high as Nvidias there was a review I saw not long ago, I can't remember from where I'll google it and see if I can find it again.
Any opinions?
Don't put too emotion on the subject,
factually speaking. We all know 280 GTX tri > 4870 X2 Quad > 280 GTX sli > 4870 X2 > 280 GTX etc....
I just want to kno if the review was true about the performance gains, I think it was THG that said it actually:S
I get the feeling these new cards were somewhat rushed. To take marketshare, and thats what theyve done. Theres been alot of bug fixes to go thru, and mostly, thats what the drivers have been focused on. I think we will start seeing improvements in them from this reslease onwards. Theres a few in this one, but more to come. Also, Id point out, that when that article was written, they were using now 2 older versions back drivers, and nVidias release was sooner and more complete when they arrived, so theyve had more time to focus on thier performance. This is my HO, but it seems to fit
personally I kno that 4870 X2 quads won't beat the 280s tri sli since its harder to optimize for and it just doesn't fit in with the math, but it will give Nvidia some running for its money.
I just saw in store a 4870 X2 for 449.99$ which means you can quad fire for about 900$ where as the AVG price for 280s is still around 420$.
So even if tri sli beats the 4870 X2 it would cost alot more, which doesn't cover the cost/Performance ratio.
So it all depends
I just saw in store a 4870 X2 for 449.99$ which means you can quad fire for about 900$ where as the AVG price for 280s is still around 420$.
So even if tri sli beats the 4870 X2 it would cost alot more, which doesn't cover the cost/Performance ratio.
So it all depends
JAYDEEJOHN said:
I get the feeling these new cards were somewhat rushed. To take marketshare, and thats what theyve done. Theres been alot of bug fixes to go thru, and mostly, thats what the drivers have been focused on. I think we will start seeing improvements in them from this reslease onwards. Theres a few in this one, but more to come. Also, Id point out, that when that article was written, they were using now 2 older versions back drivers, and nVidias release was sooner and more complete when they arrived, so theyve had more time to focus on thier performance. This is my HO, but it seems to fitSo jaydee,u didnt answer me
U said 8.10 lets u let the card to run @ stock speeds and no downclocks.
Spathotan has a 4870 and Maziar has a 4870x2 which is why you are on different pages. Currently the 4870x2 downclocks only one core in 2d mode and keeps the second core running full speed. In another thread JD assured Maziar that this was going to be fixed with the 8.10's but it is not, which is fine because the release notes don't claim to fix it. The release notes claim very little in fact. Does this clear things up?
Re. the 8.10's, I'm really skeptical of the performance increase claims. Tweaktown usually does a good job comparing each new driver so I look forward to seeing that. From my seat the sum of 8.10 is fan control which simplifies a problem that most have already solved. But we'll have the usual fanboys enthusiasts enjoying a nice pacebo performance boost.
Re. the 8.10's, I'm really skeptical of the performance increase claims. Tweaktown usually does a good job comparing each new driver so I look forward to seeing that. From my seat the sum of 8.10 is fan control which simplifies a problem that most have already solved. But we'll have the usual fanboys enthusiasts enjoying a nice pacebo performance boost.
Its one of 2 things. If its getting hot, itll ramp the fans, then go back down. Ive also heard it may not lock unless you set a config for it, and when you restart, it goes back to what it was before, without the fan speed changes. Ill try and find more info on the second core downclocking, and the permanent fan settings too
No1sFanboy said:
Spathotan has a 4870 and Maziar has a 4870x2 which is why you are on different pages. Currently the 4870x2 downclocks only one core in 2d mode and keeps the second core running full speed. In another thread JD assured Maziar that this was going to be fixed with the 8.10's but it is not, which is fine because the release notes don't claim to fix it. The release notes claim very little in fact. Does this clear things up?Re. the 8.10's, I'm really skeptical of the performance increase claims. Tweaktown usually does a good job comparing each new driver so I look forward to seeing that. From my seat the sum of 8.10 is fan control which simplifies a problem that most have already solved. But we'll have the usual fanboys enthusiasts enjoying a nice pacebo performance boost.
Well, fanboism or not, the 8.8-8.9's were dissapointing, and the 8.9 RC2 or whatever the leaked beta drivers are called kick some major butt, so much in fact that I am ignoring this WHQL release and staying with these betas. But take it from me, these have some serious performance advances. But like I said, I havent actually 'upgraded' (or maybe downgraded) to the official 8.10
hmm, I've "downgraded" to 8.10WHWL form 8.9RC2 and have to say that there is a notches in the fps on STALKER clear sky. frames just dropping to 20s without a reason. Just keep staying still and fraps shows 48 then for a second it drops to 20, and it is very irritating while playing. The other games are ok. There is no difference in frame rates at all.
I'll probably revert to 8.9 RC2. Actually I'll upgrade to 8.9RC2 because the build is higher on betas: build 69566 on betas vs 69565 on WHQL.
I'll probably revert to 8.9 RC2. Actually I'll upgrade to 8.9RC2 because the build is higher on betas: build 69566 on betas vs 69565 on WHQL.
spathotan said:
750 core on 1 card? No, mine has always downclocked to 500mhz.http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/spathotan/downclock.jpg
It's not really down clocked that's a CCC malfunc. 8.8 did that exact same thing to me, even when I OCed using CCC. I have a VT HD 4870 OCed to 810/1135 using Rivatuner. Personally I like Rivatuner better for OCing because you can exceed the 790/1100 "speed limits" that CCC puts on my card.
Also Riva had the fan speed changer before 8.10 came out so that's not a big deal to me.
yonef said:
hmm, I've "downgraded" to 8.10WHWL form 8.9RC2 and have to say that there is a notches in the fps on STALKER clear sky. frames just dropping to 20s without a reason. Just keep staying still and fraps shows 48 then for a second it drops to 20, and it is very irritating while playing. The other games are ok. There is no difference in frame rates at all.I'll probably revert to 8.9 RC2. Actually I'll upgrade to 8.9RC2 because the build is higher on betas: build 69566 on betas vs 69565 on WHQL.
You are wise grass hopper. And, thanks for the heads up, now I'm def. staying with RC2, they are a little unstable, but Stalker Clear Sky at 1920X1200 Ultra High + 4XAA, 16XAF is just so juicy and delcious right now.
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