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So heres the specs.
Please tell me if this is a good buy for the money

CDDVD
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106228

Case
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021

Harddrive
Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB 10000 RPM SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136033

Monitor
Acer AL2216Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP support - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824009094

GPU
EVGA 896-P3-1260-AR GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130370

Ram
OCZ Titanium XTC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2T800C44GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227270

mobo
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813188024

CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8500 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115036

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341002

This pc will be for gaming :bounce:


Message edited by links1295 on 09-26-2008 at 12:57:50 AM
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get 780i ftw that hd is a waste get a wd 640gb its faster then that 74gb raptor get a samsung 22x sata dvd its the fastest get the corsair 750 w psu get the mushkin hp2 ram 1.8v with good timings

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oicwutudidthar wrote :

get 780i ftw that hd is a waste get a wd 640gb its faster then that 74gb raptor get a samsung 22x sata dvd its the fastest get the corsair 750 w psu get the mushkin hp2 ram 1.8v with good timings



Harddrive space does not matter to me much since i have a 1tb external I just want a drive that is fast
I believe you want me to change the harddrive to this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136218

Can you kindly link me the rest of the hardware you wanted me to change


Message edited by links1295 on 09-26-2008 at 01:06:44 AM
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Not at all in my opinion. You're wasting a lot of money on underperforming or slightly overpriced components.

 

First of all, the 780i board... Lose it. Nvidia chipsets are pretty lousy, they have stability and heat issues, not to mention mediocre overclocking capabilities. Get an X38 board with DDR2 support and you'll be much happier with it. (I tend to favor the DFI Lan Party X38-T2R)

 

You could also get the E8400 for $20, but the only true advantage that the E8500 possesses is a 0.5x extra multiplier... That's hardly worth the $20, given Wolfdale CPUs overclocking ceiling.

 

The raptor is not really worth it, especially with the new 640GB WD caviar going for $80, it is speedy enough and has 9 times as much storage for a lesser price.

 

Since even after considering rebates, there's only a $10 difference between the GTX 260 and an HD 4870 (with aftermarket cooling), I'd definitely take the ASUS HD 4870, it's a no-brainer in my opinion.

 

ASUS EAH4870/HTDI/512M/A Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121276

 

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136218

 

DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813136045

 

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115037

 

There's about $120-150 saved there (That's what I estimate anyway) and you're actually getting better quality components.


Message edited by emp on 09-26-2008 at 01:08:47 AM
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Reply to emp

well i am assuming he wants to stick with nvidia although ati would be slightly better

Reply to oicwutudidthar

The brands dont worry me much I just want to spend $1400 on the best possible hardware for the money.


EMP
Could you please link me the ram you were talking about in your post

This is my first build and I have no knowledge on overclocking

Also im not sure if i should get dual core or quad core


Message edited by links1295 on 09-26-2008 at 01:16:56 AM
Reply to links1295

+1 for emp's suggestions.

 

The issue with the 74Gb Raptor is not size. Those are old drives and the 6400AAKS is actually faster like stated above. There is no reason to go with the old Raptor drives. You could go with the 150Gb VelociRaptor if you really can't live without a Raptor, but I would still get the 6400AAKS.

 

Edit: I would also ditch the IDE DVD drive for a SATA drive. No need having a big IDE cable in your new build.


Message edited by shortstuff_mt on 09-26-2008 at 01:17:49 AM
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If he wants to stick with nvidia (which isn't really a wise decision at his price point), then he should go for a P45 board and a 9800GX2. The whole point is to stay away from nvidia chipsets, before it was a necessary evil (680i, 780i, and 790i) since nvidia cards outperformed Ati counterparts, but since the HD 4000 release we're finally freed from their bad chipsets and people can finally get P45/X38 boards without compromising graphics performance.

------------------------------ Anxiously awaiting the Hydra 100 and the Hydra Engine...
www.lucidlogix.com
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CD/DVD - I agree with oicwutudidthar, get a samsung, and SATA rather than IDE.

CASE - awesome case, I love my Antec 900

Hard Drive - The raptor is a waste of money I think. Get an SATA-II Seagate

Monitor - Your chosen monitor seems to have good reviews. I've never used Acer personally. No comments other than I'd prefer a 24" lol.

GPU - I'm an ATI 4870 1GB fan myself, but that would require you to change your board to a CrossFire compatible board if you wanted an SLI/X-fire option in the future.


RAM - OCZ is usually good RAM and it has a nice rebate. Some people complain about not getting OCZ rebates though. Just a heads up

Mobo - No clue, I'm an AMD fan

CPU - Same as mobo, but this seems to be a popular CPU amongst the Intel crowd.

PSU - Should be plenty as far as watts are concerned and as far as I'm aware OCZ has great PSU's as well. Only question is if you can find something else just as good for cheaper.


Message edited by arson94 on 09-26-2008 at 01:22:18 AM
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If it was up to me, I'd get a quad core (Q9550) with the savings from my suggestions, but some people prefer cheaper dual cores, I see it this way though... You can always overclock quad cores, but you can add cores to a dual core.

 

The ram you picked looks alright, but I like these kits...

 

OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227284

 

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231122

 

I really like both kits, I might take the G.Skill one, because of the price. Heh... maybe even some GeIL black Dragon kits could work too...


Message edited by emp on 09-26-2008 at 01:25:18 AM
------------------------------ Anxiously awaiting the Hydra 100 and the Hydra Engine...
www.lucidlogix.com
Reply to emp

Ok here are the changes i made so far

CDDVD
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM

HD
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

PSU
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

Ram
OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR8004GK - Retail - getting this one for the looks

I am still undecided with the mobo and gpu and processor


I am unsure of the ones that were posted
thinking about the
cpu
Q9550

mobo
DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R

The gpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121276
is kinda scary because it doesnt have many reviews

Reply to links1295

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms(GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
2x SAPPHIRE 100244L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996587 - Retail
DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2RB LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail

here get this. you can add lightscribe if you want. comes in at 1426.90

Reply to oicwutudidthar
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Looks good as well, dual HD 4850 are a beast of a setup.

------------------------------ Anxiously awaiting the Hydra 100 and the Hydra Engine...
www.lucidlogix.com
Reply to emp

hey emp im pretty sure to 4850s prounce a 4870 right

Reply to oicwutudidthar
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Yeah definitely, dual HD 4850 are only defeated by Dual HD 4870 or HD 4870 X2. However I prefer this model instead, for no extra charge you get better cooling:

 

SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102770

 


Message edited by emp on 09-26-2008 at 02:03:27 AM
------------------------------ Anxiously awaiting the Hydra 100 and the Hydra Engine...
www.lucidlogix.com
Reply to emp

ok the order currently looks like this
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Acer AL2216Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP support - Retail -----------Changed it to save $80 because I dont think 3ms makes much of a difference
2x SAPPHIRE 100244L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR8004GK - Retail ----------- changed it because it looks like it has better timing
DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2RB LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail ----------- Quad core makes a difference right?

Reply to links1295

links1295 wrote :

ok the order currently looks like this
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Acer AL2216Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP support - Retail -----------Changed it to save $80 because I dont think 3ms makes much of a difference
2x SAPPHIRE 100244L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR8004GK - Retail ----------- changed it because it looks like it has better timing
DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2RB LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail ----------- Quad core makes a difference right for games like crysis?


Message edited by links1295 on 09-26-2008 at 02:22:43 AM
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Quad core does make a difference. Take a look at the HD 4850s I linked, they are $5 cheaper each and have a better cooling solution. Other than that, it looks great.

------------------------------ Anxiously awaiting the Hydra 100 and the Hydra Engine...
www.lucidlogix.com
Reply to emp

get the samsung screen it loooks waaaaaaaay better then the acer and this is the budget gamers choice for a monitor. and get the mushkin ram it has 1.8v (reaallly low voltage) so its more stable and overclockable and ur good

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Message edited by oicwutudidthar on 09-26-2008 at 02:24:50 AM
Reply to oicwutudidthar

emp wrote :

Quad core does make a difference. Take a look at the HD 4850s I linked, they are $5 cheaper each and have a better cooling solution. Other than that, it looks great.



I Already had them ;)

oicwutudidthar wrote :

get the samsung screen and get the mushkin ram and ur good



but if I get the samsung screen I wont be able to get quad core.

Reply to links1295

get a q6600 if u want quad core. the 45nm cpus only make a difference if you encode videos or music

Reply to oicwutudidthar

oicwutudidthar wrote :

get a q6600 if u want quad core. the 45nm cpus only make a difference if you encode videos or music




soo for games quad core is useless?

Reply to links1295
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Not useless... just underutilized, system will overall feel more responsive though.

------------------------------ Anxiously awaiting the Hydra 100 and the Hydra Engine...
www.lucidlogix.com
Reply to emp

i would reccomend a q6600 good n cheap and nice XD

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for CPU i would go with an e8400 or e8500 (wolfdale)
ive got an e8400 and have got it @ 3.8ghz with this cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835109125
all it needs is a regular 12cm fan

and i would suggest ditching nvidia chipset based boards like others have suggested
the intel x38/48 or p35/45 are much better from what i've been reading

i personally have an Asus P5K-E board based on p35 and its rock solid

the acer screen isnt bad, i think they come with 3 yr warranties (at least in canada)
but yea the samsung screen is probably going to be better in terms of color reproduction and contrast (good for when watching the occasional movie)







Reply to kamkal

thanks for the help

much appreciated

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