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HD 4850 Vs 4870

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October 21, 2008 1:22:11 PM

Hi
I have just constructed my comp with everything except for Graphics card (cash shortage ) .My config is phenom 9550,2GB 800 DDR2 (trancend),gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H,500 GB seagate hard disk .My moniter is Viewsonic VX1940W . I am in dilemma about the graphics card because of two reasons
1) Maximum resolution supported my my monitor is 1680x1050
2)The price difference between the two back here in india is Rs 7500 thats(My phenom cost me Rs 6750 to give you some idea)
3)Will my 2.2Ghz Phenom 9550 bottleneck 4870????
I have done some research over the internet and found that 4870 supports very high resolutions. I am asking is if i buy 4870 will it be worth the price difference ,as my monitor resolution may act as bottleneck (In other words will 4850 give me the same performance at the 1680x1050 as 4870

please reply i need some advice to get out of this dilemma.
Link to Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128090
Link to Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116095

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October 21, 2008 1:24:18 PM

Neither, get a GTX 260 Core216. Higher memory bus runs better at high resolutions

At least, that is my opinion. If you really want ATI, I would get the 4850 just because of the price.
October 21, 2008 1:32:43 PM

at that resolution, I would reccomend.... the 4870, because although the 4850 is better in general price for performance ratio (although the 4870 is still great), that resolution is starting to get to the point where it might choke
but IMO ignore the gtx 260 (and i've heard there are availability issues for the core 216 as well...).
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October 21, 2008 1:36:42 PM

LunaticWolf said:
Neither, get a GTX 260 Core216. Higher memory bus runs better at high resolutions.


ohhk , I did'nt think about nVidia because my whole system is around AMD ATi & NVidia GTX 260 costs some Rs 22000+ ,HD 4850 costs Rs 10000+ ,HD470 costs Rs 17,500(512 MB) 1GB variant not here yet.Does nvidia have compatablity issues with ati motherboard ? will my CPU bottleneck 4870 ??? Its 2.2Ghz quad core
October 21, 2008 1:51:31 PM

Even though the 4870 is a better card at that resolution I would still suggest the HD4850 for your set up. I have used both and for the difference in price the 4850 would be the way to go especially considering your processor limitations.
October 21, 2008 2:10:33 PM

LunaticWolf said:
Neither, get a GTX 260 Core216. Higher memory bus runs better at high resolutions
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:lol: 

Absolutely bull****! HD4870 is cheaper and beats GTX260 core 216 in all aspects!

@nesta13 I'de recomemd you HD4870 as I have one and I've very pleased.
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October 21, 2008 2:18:53 PM

There is no compatability issues running a Nvidia card on an Amd/Ati system. As long as you are not trying to run SLI, any single graphic card will work perfectly on any motherboard/chipset.
However, I think you would be very, very happy with the 4870.
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October 21, 2008 2:36:27 PM

If you already have all the parts, then I would just get something to get you going. The 4850 will handle 1680x1050 just fine, so will the 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, 8800GTX, 8800GTS. (basically any G92 chip) If you can get a good deal on any of these, you'll at least be able to start using your computer, while saving up for the card of your dreams. An 8800GTS might set you back only ~7500RS (pure guess), allowing you to save 2500RS for the next great card, or get you gaming one month sooner.
October 21, 2008 2:41:28 PM

4745454b said:
If you already have all the parts, then I would just get something to get you going. The 4850 will handle 1680x1050 just fine, so will the 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, 8800GTX, 8800GTS. (basically any G92 chip) If you can get a good deal on any of these, you'll at least be able to start using your computer, while saving up for the card of your dreams. An 8800GTS might set you back only ~7500RS (pure guess), allowing you to save 2500RS for the next great card, or get you gaming one month sooner.

Thansx for the different perspective ,I already have my system running with the onboard GPU (ati 3200) which is already running fine (i can play FIFA 09 on it).In fact i am posting from the same System ;) 
October 21, 2008 4:51:53 PM

I vote for the HD 4850. Don't need more power than that for that res.
October 21, 2008 5:22:04 PM

The guys above who recommended the 4870 over the 4850 probably missed it when you said it was 75% more expensive over there then the 4850. The 4870 is in no way, shape, or form worth that amount of extra money at 1680x1050. If you were gaming at 1920x1200 MAYBE. But no way @ 1680x1050, not for a 75% increase in price.
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October 21, 2008 5:40:20 PM

It just depends on you. If you can afford the 4870 then go for it. If you have to think about it, get the 4850. Considering that you will probably be limited by your CPU before anything else I don't think you should strain your budget to get the 4870. You should consider the 1GB version of the card since soon games will start making extra use of that extra memory. GRID already does. If you hadn't already bought the CPU and were worried about budget I would have said to get a Radeon 4850 and a Phenom 9750 :D .
October 21, 2008 5:43:39 PM

I agree with the previous 2 posts. 4850 for 1680x1050
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October 21, 2008 7:55:29 PM

Not often I agree, but I`d go for the 4850, it`s a good card at the resoloution you`re using and, unlike the 4870/GTX260 will not be bottlenecked by your CPU. If you can find a 1Gb card without paying too much extra that will be a bonus that should pay dividends in the future.
October 21, 2008 8:11:57 PM

I say go for 4870 - Games like Far cry 2, Mafia II gonna be needing that juice....

Also, i would like to ask the Original poster of the thread, how are you connecting your screen for power?
As you might have got US power plug to connect your monitor.....
Are you directly connecting using the supplied plug ?
October 21, 2008 10:51:46 PM
October 21, 2008 11:06:49 PM

your all ways better getting the faster card it will give you more head room for future games that are going to be more demanding
October 22, 2008 4:27:50 AM

craige4u said:

Also, i would like to ask the Original poster of the thread, how are you connecting your screen for power?
As you might have got US power plug to connect your monitor.....
Are you directly connecting using the supplied plug ?


I am not sure what do you mean by US power plug .I have connected the power cord given with the monitor to my UPS not sure whether it is US type or India type .
October 22, 2008 4:40:44 AM


Thanx for the links but most of the benchmarks (actually all but 1st) are for resolution 1920x1600 which is not supported by my monitor hence become void.

Thanx a lot for the opinions guys , I am thinking of buying HD4870.. as it makes me future proof for some time .My only issue now is will my 2.2 GHz phenom 9550 bottleneck the card please provide inputs ....will over clocking it help ...can 9550 be overclocked??? :wahoo: 
October 22, 2008 7:49:08 AM

Yes, you can OC phenom 9550 at 2.5-2.6 Ghz with MB that uses SB600 or SB700, If you have SB750 you'll be able to push it to 2.8-3.0 Ghz, because SB750 supports advance clock calipration which helps phenoms to be OCed more effective. But your CPU will bottleneck your GPU at very few games, such as Crysis, so do not worry for that. Your system will perform better with HD4870 than 4850, and you can always OC your CPU and play crysis :) 
I'm voting for HD4870
October 22, 2008 12:49:15 PM

nesta13 said:
Thanx for the links but most of the benchmarks (actually all but 1st) are for resolution 1920x1600 which is not supported by my monitor hence become void.

Thanx a lot for the opinions guys , I am thinking of buying HD4870.. as it makes me future proof for some time .My only issue now is will my 2.2 GHz phenom 9550 bottleneck the card please provide inputs ....will over clocking it help ...can 9550 be overclocked??? :wahoo: 


Don't look at the first bar graph, scroll down to the second graph in each page, showing multiple resolutions.

And yes, 9550 can be overclocked. Not as well as Intel chips, but it'll still help. Although it should not bottleneck significantly even at stock, in typical gpu limited game. It will bottleneck in cpu limited games, like Supreme Commander and FSX.
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