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Guru3D Far Cry 2 Benchies w/ Hotfix

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October 22, 2008 12:23:23 PM

The hotfix for the ATI card is beta, though there will be a little more gain from the complete driver, Guru3D states that the 4870 X2 lagged alot during the proccess, and its hoping that the complete driver fixes it.

The 280 GTX manages to keep up with the Dual GPU card up till 1920x1200, being evenly matched, once 2560x1600 resolution hit, the 280 GTX drop down by 22%.

The 9800 GX2 fell straight on it's rear end scoreing 10 fps the lowest of all the cards. Also shocking was how low the 4870 got compared to the 260 GTX. The 260 GTX doubled the 4870 @ 2560x1600.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics...
October 22, 2008 12:36:57 PM

The CPU limitations was only for the low resolutions for only 1 4870 X2. we'll see gains from the real release driver, these tests are so different at every site, it makes me doubt their results, and just makes me play the game a not think about it.
October 22, 2008 12:39:58 PM

damn I have a 9800GX2 and it's the worst card in the game...
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October 22, 2008 1:28:23 PM

It is clear the nvidia drivers are well suited to this game and ATI has a long way to go. They should have tested the 1gb flavor of the HD 4870 and HD4850 as the memory buffer seems to be a factor here.
October 22, 2008 1:47:22 PM

GX2 still has to benefit from new drivers, don't worry:) 
October 22, 2008 2:29:12 PM

DAMN!
I finally need to think about upgrade my 8800GT...
Yes, I also notice a little extra memory seems to help.
It seems Crysis/Warhead isn't the only demanding game anymore.
The 8800GT should last another year if I tolerate turning down settings.
October 22, 2008 2:51:10 PM

Awesome! My HD 4670 delivers nicely! I'll just turn down a setting or two.... maybe DX9 will give me a big enough boost. (I'm on XP)
October 22, 2008 2:56:10 PM

I'm pleased with these results. I built my current rig with Far Cry 2 in mind. Glad to see the x2 delivers at 1920x1200 and higher. Hopefully drivers will further improve its performance.
a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 3:08:01 PM

i played with map editor....not sure what resolution what was but game looks cool. played with day time, fire, storms, water :p 

i have 4850 w q6600@3.4ghz and in task manager I seen all cores being used :D 
October 22, 2008 3:12:11 PM

nocteratus said:
damn I have a 9800GX2 and it's the worst card in the game...
Did you think that 512MB of video memory would keep you on the top forever? :p 
October 22, 2008 3:42:02 PM

Were the quality settings at the highest? because if you can play with a 8800gt at 40 frames with those graphics, i will be impressed.
October 22, 2008 4:01:06 PM

:D  this benchmarks are fake :D 
My bro just installed farcry2 on his komp, and 8800GT veryhigh settings 1280x1024 4AA/0AF averages on 16 fps for DX9 and 11 FPS for DX10
there is momething very funy in the results posted on guru3D. Everyone that has the game will confirm that this is not actually the real performanve. they should be done theese test on med details maybe with no AA definitely!
I'm looking forward to get the game (may be tommoroy) and I'm going to post some (real) results on HD4870
October 22, 2008 4:13:31 PM

Far cry 2 just like Crysis I should imagine, will perform better with time.

There's something up with these benchmarks because the 9800GX2 shouldn't score that low, so it's either drivers or the Benchmark is complete BS.

My 9800GT should do just fine at the 1280 * 1024 resolution I play at.
a c 130 U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 4:26:38 PM


What i want to know is how did they manage to run a set of benchies with a card that the NDA dosent lift on untill tomorrow ?Namley the HD 4830. If these numbers can be beleived then the card is as good as i thought and if they keep the pricing where it was rumoured to be the 4670 just lost market share big time.

Mactronix :) 
a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 4:37:50 PM

Shhhhh
a c 130 U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 4:46:19 PM


What!! :ange:  :whistle: 

Mactronix
October 22, 2008 4:48:06 PM

enewmen said:
DAMN!
I finally need to think about upgrade my 8800GT...
Yes, I also notice a little extra memory seems to help.
It seems Crysis/Warhead isn't the only demanding game anymore.
The 8800GT should last another year if I tolerate turning down settings.



can you not use ur sonic screwdriver to make it go faster
a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 5:09:52 PM

I'm off work at 5, home and dinner by 6:30, so around 8 or so i'll post how the GX2 actually does few the first half-hour or so at 1280x1024.

Look at it this way though, the more cards brought to their knees, the more powerful the next generation will be :D 
a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 5:38:17 PM

Watch the prices dip some for the 4670, as theyve already raised the 4850s price a little for intro pirce room. The 4670 goes down, the 4850 goes up, and right in the middle comes the 4830.. I expect the 4830 and the 4850 to come down in price after intro, while the 4670 may just stay where its at, after its lowered
a c 130 U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 5:52:20 PM


That will make a lot of people unhappy myself included if they artificially raise the price of the 4850 to make an additional card fit. Didnt they just come out of a price fixing case ?
ATI has made up a lot of ground latley with consumers, specifically as they promised performance at a good price point and delivered. I just worry it will sour people towards them. Peoples memories are really short as far as this kind of thing is concerned and doing something like that is like giving Nvidia a couple of percent in FPS head start when people are deciding which card to buy. Basically it will make it easier for Nvidia to get back in with the consumer providing they can release something competative in time to take advantage.
The cards are there they just lack DX10.1 or they could go straight to DX11 ? I dont know whats in the Nvidia pipeline and have never owned an Nvidia card, no reason just how it happened but i could be very tempted if ATI start this kind of thing. I know Nvidia are no saints either but as i said short memory.

Mactronix :) 
a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 5:57:29 PM

Look at the current pricing now. Cheapest 4850 was 160$ yesterday, and thats the cheapest on the egg
a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 6:12:32 PM

awesome looks like farcry 2 will like my rig.
=]
a c 130 U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 6:14:48 PM


Well im in the UK and i checked this when i found out this card was coming, just checked it again and its still just over £40 between the two 4670 and 4850.
So either as you say they are going to fix the prices (sorry no other way to put it) to make room for the 4830 or another option i have seen used elsewhere in retailing is to price it close to the 4850 to push up the sales of that. Obviously if its priced close people will get the better card. Then they can drop the 4670 a little to keep that ticking over, its usual for a price drop about now anyway isnt it ? Then they release the revision 4850 at the higher price and hey presto its all above board. Do you recon they will give me a job :) 

Mactronix :) 
October 22, 2008 6:32:14 PM

mactronix said:
That will make a lot of people unhappy myself included if they artificially raise the price of the 4850 to make an additional card fit. Didnt they just come out of a price fixing case ?
ATI has made up a lot of ground latley with consumers, specifically as they promised performance at a good price point and delivered. I just worry it will sour people towards them. Peoples memories are really short as far as this kind of thing is concerned and doing something like that is like giving Nvidia a couple of percent in FPS head start when people are deciding which card to buy. Basically it will make it easier for Nvidia to get back in with the consumer providing they can release something competative in time to take advantage.
The cards are there they just lack DX10.1 or they could go straight to DX11 ? I dont know whats in the Nvidia pipeline and have never owned an Nvidia card, no reason just how it happened but i could be very tempted if ATI start this kind of thing. I know Nvidia are no saints either but as i said short memory.

Mactronix :) 


tell me, when the 7800x2 came out how much was it $800 and how long was it before they dropped support for the card
a c 130 U Graphics card
October 22, 2008 6:38:25 PM


Um possably 3800 X2 ?
But yea i know what you mean and i have fat fingers when im anoyed as well :) 

Mactronix
October 22, 2008 9:05:46 PM

I read in another thread that hd4830 is only $10 cheaper than hd4850, no point in hd4830.
October 22, 2008 10:10:18 PM

ok I played Far cry 2 on my laptop, I maxed out everything, no AA, Geometry and Shadows on Medium.

It runs about 30-40 frames on my laptop, some dips in the 28s. The game play is amazing, honestly haven't seen a game as developed (other than Half life 2, but I can't compare the 2 they are too different)

You create your own sense of security, the game plays with ur mind on whether something is wroth the risk or not.\

Although in all honesty, the game's graphics aren't anything new to me, atleast. I'm being fully honest, it doesn't compare much to Crysis when you actually break it down. To me it looks like a tuned up COD 4 engine:p 

The movements of the characters aren't as fluid as in Crysis, although the gameplay is 10xs better than even Crysis warhead. Its just the small things. Character models are just pathetic though. The enviroment imitates Crysis but doesn't have that extra that extra I dunno that the beauty of the jungle in Crysis has soo

to each his own.

Honestly its a must play!!! Controls are very well polished as well. There are a few graphical glitches here and there but what can you expect.
October 23, 2008 2:53:12 AM

Wow if you are getting over 30fps on a notebook(which are slow and not known for gaming) I should get double yours with an e6400 and hd2600xt.
October 23, 2008 2:57:26 AM

lol my laptop has a 9700M GTS 512 dedicated. Sorry its a gaming notebook, I forgot to put up the specs.

The 9700M GTS is about as strong as a 9600 GT desktop Video card. Resolutions was 1440x900
a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2008 12:05:52 PM

Speed wise, my GX2 can run everything at close to 60 FPS at 1280x1024 res with no slowdown, but has major grahpical glitches (latest WHQL drivers).

1) When loading a new scene, there is a 50/50 chance the display will get curropted.
2) When exiting the game, there is around a 75% chance of the display driver failing, and not being able to recover (comp works, but display frozen).

Again, latest WHQL, no other games have issues (counting Crysis), see sig for comp specs.
a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2008 12:17:47 PM

L1qu1d said:
The 9800 GX2 fell straight on it's rear end scoreing 10 fps the lowest of all the cards. Also shocking was how low the 4870 got compared to the 260 GTX. The 260 GTX doubled the 4870 @ 2560x1600.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics...


Thanks for the link and info. This was one of the titles I most looked forward to but have been so busy this past week I haven't even gone looking for the game yet. I hope to go buy it this weekend. I'm bummed about the activation limit as I always like to performance test games on multiple machines for fun.

If the 9800GX2 did so aweful, looks like there's little hope right now for my SLI 8800GT 's. :( 

4870 vs 260 for sure was not expected by me. Lets wait and see if this stays the case for long.
October 23, 2008 12:58:18 PM

@pauldh

Actually I linked some Nvidia Beta drivers, that said to fix the problems for the GX2. I doubt ur 8800 GTs are affected, from what I read it was strictly a GX2 problem.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/GeForc [...] -2104.html
a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2008 1:22:23 PM

Thanks. I'll try the 178.24's and then compare them to the betas.
October 23, 2008 3:53:17 PM

Wow, if L1qu1d can play it maxxed, i should do ok with my 2600. I will put up some info soon.
a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2008 5:08:03 PM

L1qu1d said:
@pauldh

Actually I linked some Nvidia Beta drivers, that said to fix the problems for the GX2. I doubt ur 8800 GTs are affected, from what I read it was strictly a GX2 problem.

http://downloads.guru3d.com/GeForc [...] -2104.html


I'll try them for myself later tonight. Hopefully they fix my grahpics issues...
October 23, 2008 5:10:53 PM

don't forget that the 2600 is a lower end card, it is around half the power of the 9600 GT, and the 9700M GTS is slightly slower than the 9600 GT. But please put up your results:) 

My notebook has DDR3 1066 mhz 4 gigs of ram and 2.0 processor. The load times are slow because of the 5400 RPM hard drive.

Oh yeah I had a little trouble installing the Beta drivers at first, the installation would just halt and 50%, I needed to restart and reinstall a couple of times before they worked, let me kno if any1 else had problems with them.
a c 169 U Graphics card
October 23, 2008 5:53:48 PM

Well here i are my reults:

Q6600@3.4
OCZ 4GB DDR2 800
ATI HD 4870X2
Resolution:1680x1050:

1_Everything maxed out with 1680x1050 resolution with 0xAA
I had a very nice and smooth experience and here are the results(i got 50FPS Average)



2_This one has the same settings but with 8xAA,well AA in this game is like in Crysis,i really didnt see a noticeable difference between 0xAA and 8xAA (same as Crysis)also with 8xAA i didnt have a very good smooth gameplay,here are the results:



October 23, 2008 6:15:50 PM

I did with 8 AA, I mean I might not see it between 4x AA and 8 AA, but with AA on the foliage is amazing, very smooth and natural feeling:) 

These are mine with 1 280 GTX enabled.

8xs AA 1680x1050 Maxed out DX 10.

AVG: 57.35
MAX: 95.99
MIN: 49.10
a c 169 U Graphics card
October 23, 2008 6:56:02 PM

I dont know but i didnt see a noticeable difference with my eyes :) 
Also i am waiting for a hotfix from ATI which may give be better performance and ofcourse DX 10.1 :D 
a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2008 7:15:34 PM

They already did :D 
October 23, 2008 7:47:18 PM

yeah they did, but most ppl got only about 2 fps more, we should all wait for the final drivers for our cards to start worrying lol. The hotfix is beta from what I remember. Same with the Nvidia drivers. but the Beta drivers gave me a nice boost, there was alot of stuttering before the Driver.
a c 169 U Graphics card
October 23, 2008 7:58:06 PM

u mean catalyst 8.11 beta ? or there is another hotfix? if so then plz give me the link of it :) 
October 24, 2008 2:38:11 AM

My previous graphics card seemed to be giving me troubles because when ever i tried to play a game it would lag really really badly. Just to give you an idea on the computer i had it was a quad core Q6600 4gb ram 500Watt power supply nVidia BFG Geforce 8600OCS. Any way because of the problem i went and bought myself a new graphics card (the best money can buy) and that required more power and a new case cause the card was so big. I bought the ATI Radeon 4870 X2 and then i bought a 850W power supply and some case that looked cool. Anyway i still have the problem where i cant play any game cause it lags like hell, no matter what settings i put teh game on, a game like Crysis should run full spec should it not?

I have done a ram test so that leaves my mobo or processor to blame cause the chance of having two bad cards in a row are slim to none. If anyone could verify which (mobo or processor) would cause this it would save me money from buying both. I'm very frustrated at this point cause i bought farcry 2 and I'm still left with this expensive boat anchor on my desk...

Not sure where to post computer problems so i just posted this here cause i just bought Far Cry 2 ^_^ THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANY HELP

Please Email me a solution cause i will probably never find this post again to check it my Email is XeroSniper@gmail.com Thanks
October 24, 2008 2:50:22 AM

Heyyou27 said:
Did you think that 512MB of video memory would keep you on the top forever? :p 

I think its actually a 1024 SLI Cards. So yea 2 512 cards. and isnt the 9800 X2 fairly new? i my self have the 4870 X2 and i would be impressed with it if i didnt have a mobo or processor problem... not enough money to fix right now, trying to sell PS3 for money ^_^
October 24, 2008 8:54:51 AM

HEMI_Engine said:
I'm pleased with these results. I built my current rig with Far Cry 2 in mind. Glad to see the x2 delivers at 1920x1200 and higher. Hopefully drivers will further improve its performance.


you built your system for Far Cry 2? I hope you are not disappointed.

The game is wanna be mafia/GTA FPS. Very repetitive. Driving around looking at a map searching for diamonds. :pt1cable: 

I don't know why they named this game far cry 2? This game is nothing like far cry.

They should have named this "diamond hunter" or something.

As for performance it's okay but could be much better. The graphics doesn't particularly shine nor is it bad.
October 24, 2008 1:20:01 PM

marvelous211 said:
you built your system for Far Cry 2? I hope you are not disappointed.

Not at all. It's just one of the games I had in mind when building my last system. I too hope I'm not disappointed. :) 

October 24, 2008 1:41:10 PM

well I like far cry 2, but definitely wrong title for this game. The first 1 was more of a sci fi this 1 is more of survival/documentary/Anti terrorism game :p 
October 24, 2008 1:48:09 PM

marvelous211 said:
I don't know why they named this game far cry 2? This game is nothing like far cry..


You are so right, the two games are practically nothing alike, other than they are shooters.


marvelous211 said:

They should have named this "diamond hunter" or something.


HAHAHAHAHA like spy hunter but different. lol
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