HD 4830 is launched

[mayukawa]

Sapphire 100265L
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102803

POWERCOLOR AX4830 512MD3-H
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131129

HIS Hightech H483FN512P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161260

 

[alvine]

it looks the same haha
even the specs
i have exact same sapphire card just the 4850 with same aftermarket heatsink

i guess its cheaper.

 

[trevorvdw]

Hmm they'll need to throw some rebates on those or drop the price... $130 is only $10 shy of what a 4850 is after rebate if you shop around.

 

[doomturkey]

Only difference is 640 SPU instead of 800.

 

[zenmaster]

I don't get this card.

The 4670 is a decent gaming card for those trying to save money.
I don't see where the 4830 would fit in.

There is only a very small price gap between that and the 4850.
Why comprimise for $10.
If you can't afford the 4850, you can't afford the 4830.

 

[fyend]

4850 $129.99 after rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261027

4830 price needs to come down a few bucks

 

[mactronix]

Couple of you guys need to look again, the clocks main and memory are lower. I'm guessing that the clocks will be locked in the Bios to stop it being overclocked to compensate for the missing SP's. I'm also guessing the other SP's wont be able to be re-activated. I'm still a little confused though last i heard the NDA was set for tomorrow ? Oh well never mind its out now so soon all questions will be answered.

Mactronix

 

[NewLCD123]

If that hd4830 is locked, will flashing the bios to whatever unlock it? If not and prices are so close to the unlocked hd4850, no ones going to buy the hd4830, what a disapointment.

 

[jyjjy]

I really doubt it's locked.

 

[emp]

I don't get this card.

The 4670 is a decent gaming card for those trying to save money.
I don't see where the 4830 would fit in.

There is only a very small price gap between that and the 4850.
Why comprimise for $10.
If you can't afford the 4850, you can't afford the 4830.

Simple, it falls in right where the 8800GT/9800GT/GT 140 Watchamacallit goes, if you don't find a place for the HD 4830, then you don't find a reason for the 8800GT to exist either, since they are priced at about the same (9800GT going for $120-150). Rebates shouldn't come into the pricing discussion yet, this is a brand new product, so expect them to come soon to match the competition.

With that said, I do agree with you, if someone was planning to purchase a card in that price range, why not pay a little more and get an HD 4850. But not everyone thinks like us.

 

[mactronix]

Thats just how they want you to think. JDJ and myself were discussing how this would fit in price wise and it looks like the guess that they would place it so people went for the 4850 instead was right.
Next guess was the 4670 will drop in price a bit and then they will produce a revision 4850 at a higher price. We earlier thought maybe the 4850 would get jacked up to make a bigger gap, glad that hasnt happened, but there is still time.
Mactronix

 

[brendano257]

Simple, it falls in right where the 8800GT/9800GT/GT 140 Watchamacallit goes, if you don't find a place for the HD 4830, then you don't find a reason for the 8800GT to exist either, since they are priced at about the same (9800GT going for $120-150). Rebates shouldn't come into the pricing discussion yet, this is a brand new product, so expect them to come soon to match the competition.

With that said, I do agree with you, if someone was planning to purchase a card in that price range, why not pay a little more and get an HD 4850. But not everyone thinks like us.

Just so not true. The 8800GT is an older model now, yet still has the performance of some newer models ie. 9800GT. That is different than introducing another card that is simply almost the same. BTW the 8800GT was one of Nvidia's biggest jumps in performance/price ever

 

[dagger]

Simple, it falls in right where the 8800GT/9800GT/GT 140 Watchamacallit goes, if you don't find a place for the HD 4830, then you don't find a reason for the 8800GT to exist either, since they are priced at about the same (9800GT going for $120-150). Rebates shouldn't come into the pricing discussion yet, this is a brand new product, so expect them to come soon to match the competition.

With that said, I do agree with you, if someone was planning to purchase a card in that price range, why not pay a little more and get an HD 4850. But not everyone thinks like us.

The $120-150 price for 9800gt was months ago, it's now around $120, or just under $100 if counting in mir.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127381

Although 4830 is supposed to be faster than 9800gt/8800gt. Any benchmarks out yet?

 

[emp]

I'd expect the benchmarks tomorrow which is when the NDA is supposedly over. The 9800GT is $130 on average in newegg, even though there are a few at $120 you can also find some going for $140-150. I wouldn't really factor in MIR as a big selling point, since the HD 4830 are a brand new release, so they will have similar rebates offered soon enough to match the competition.

I wish nvidia would stop selling the G92 as 9800GT and rename them already to GT 140, it'd just be funny to see the card finally rebadged for a third time, even though that might cause some trouble to manufacturers since they would have to get new stickers for them.

 

[caamsa]

This is the only place I could find benchmarks on it.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics-performance-review/5

Not bad for people who play 1280X1024 and lower.

If you look at prices that include rebates I still think the 9600GT is prob still the best bang for your buck. What is the deal with all these stupid rebates on NewEgg? Go back about 2 years and they hardly had any and now that is all they have on almost all their products.....pain in the butt if you ask me.

 

[dagger]

I'd expect the benchmarks tomorrow which is when the NDA is supposedly over. The 9800GT is $130 on average in newegg, even though there are a few at $120 you can also find some going for $140-150. I wouldn't really factor in MIR as a big selling point, since the HD 4830 are a brand new release, so they will have similar rebates offered soon enough to match the competition.

I wish nvidia would stop selling the G92 as 9800GT and rename them already to GT 140, it'd just be funny to see the card finally rebadged for a third time, even though that might cause some trouble to manufacturers since they would have to get new stickers for them.

There is also a 3650 for $320 on Newegg. The convention is going by the lowest stable price for new product (not open box, or on sale). You can always find more expensive ones, there is no limit on how high you can go.

Edit: damn, just saw the Far Cry 2 benchmark. Performance is below the cheaper 8800gt/9800gt. Not encouraging. Although the bench looks flaky, performance values jump around quite a bit. So hopefully it's not representative of overall performance. Maybe Far Cry 2 just isn't an optimized game. It doesn't seem to scale with dual gpu either.

 

[dirtmountain]

I wonder how it will stack up against a 9600GT at $94 or in some cases $60 after a rebate ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125099
The 4670 falls short, will the 4830 be much better ?

 

[dagger]

I wonder how it will stack up against a 9600GT at $94 or in some cases $60 after a rebate ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125099
The 4670 falls short, will the 4830 be much better ?

Not according to that benchmark. But then again, that bench looks off.

 

[caamsa]

Not according to that benchmark. But then again, that bench looks off.

First full review.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3437

 

[Acethechosenone]

It seemed like a very soft launch by Ati atleast to me.

 

[yipsl]

I'm not sure it's really needed, as it's too close to the 4850 in performance. I guess ATI has to match Nvidia at every price point, regardless of performance.

What I'm waiting for is June 2009, when the next ATI GPU release is expected. It seems we are back to new releases every year instead of every two years. AMD must be putting ATI's profit to good use research wise.

 

[mactronix]

Its a good card and will do what ATI want it to, Plenty of people say the 4670 and wanted a 256 bit version, well this is just a bit better than that. Still want to know if the clocks are locked or if teh extra SIMD can be enabled

Mactronix