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Saphire toxic 4870 1GB---is this cooler worth it??

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October 24, 2008 2:29:36 AM

hey everyone. im getting a 4870 soon and i heard about saphire's toxic cooling system. reviews say that this lowers temps almost 20c lower. i've seen the toxic 4870 512mb(here--------> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... but i've newer seen a toxic 1 GB version.

but than today i saw this on newegg(-------> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is this a toxic 4870 1GB?? it has the same black cooler with heat pipes (3rd picture) it looks like a toxic edition but no where on the page does it say its a toxic, and it dosnt say toxic on the card either. so im asking if anyone knows what this card is??? thanks
October 24, 2008 3:26:31 AM

ok, so the 512mb version is the toxic but the 1 GB version isnt?? that sucks. but ok. thank you
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October 24, 2008 3:31:16 AM

jonj320 said:
hey everyone. im getting a 4870 soon and i heard about saphire's toxic cooling system. reviews say that this lowers temps almost 20c lower. i've seen the toxic 4870 512mb(here--------> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... but i've newer seen a toxic 1 GB version.

but than today i saw this on newegg(-------> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is this a toxic 4870 1GB?? it has the same black cooler with heat pipes (3rd picture) it looks like a toxic edition but no where on the page does it say its a toxic, and it dosnt say toxic on the card either. so im asking if anyone knows what this card is??? thanks


I don't see anywhere does it say toxic, so i doubt it uses that same type of cooling convection.

It does look very suspicious, and I also thought it was a toxic edition 1gb version, but you know it's not on the Sapphrie website, only a 1gb version but not a 1gb toxic version of hte 4870.

I could have sworn it was a toxic version as well, but it probably isn't.

edit: This is the list of cards on their website:

"SAPPHIRE HD 4800 Series
SAPPHIRE HD 4830 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 1GB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E Dual Slot Fansink
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 1G GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 X2 2G GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE TOXIC HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE TOXIC HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E"
October 24, 2008 3:43:42 AM

Basically, it's using the same cooler as the TOXIC, but it's running at the default speeds. You shouldn't have a problem overclocking it to TOXIC speeds, or beyond, but I guess that will just depend.
October 24, 2008 3:56:18 AM

the one person who wrote a review on the newegg page said that he has 40c temps at idle, so i hope he isnt lieing..

im just trying to decide if the new fan over the stock cooler makes this worth buying.
October 24, 2008 3:59:07 AM

megamanx00 said:
Basically, it's using the same cooler as the TOXIC, but it's running at the default speeds. You shouldn't have a problem overclocking it to TOXIC speeds, or beyond, but I guess that will just depend.


Are you sure though? B/c if it is, and it's only $10-ish I don't really see a point in not going w/ it.
October 24, 2008 4:31:54 AM

thats what i was thinking, i just want someone to confirm that this cooler actually works
October 24, 2008 5:01:08 AM

what resolution you playing at?
October 24, 2008 5:05:40 AM

right now im at 1680x1050, but im going to get a 24 or 27 inch monitor for christmas so ill need the extra ram for the 19x10(sorry dont know exactly) resolution
October 24, 2008 5:16:29 AM

1980*1200 most likely, but ok, 1 think the one gb wouldnt be a bad move...but the toxic wouldn't be either

i would go for the toxic personally
October 24, 2008 5:49:40 AM

ya thats the resolution, sorry. so you would pick the toxic 512mb over the other 1GB even though there is only a $10 difference between them?
October 24, 2008 6:14:59 AM

1 gb sapphire, check the reviews of the 1 gb 4870. they do surpass the 512.

for 10$ the 1gb is a no brainer
October 24, 2008 6:24:36 AM

Apparently ATI is going to change it's reference design on at least the 4870 and up to this new vapor chamber tech. If it were me, I would bet all larger Sapphire cards adopting this in the next few weeks, with the others following.
October 24, 2008 7:29:40 AM



See I'm not even sure if they are actually using the toxic cooler on that 4870 w/ 1gb, the 4870 512 toxic is using copper heatpipes but the 4870 1gb could be using nickel plated copper heatpipes we wouldn't know until somebody had a review on that version....

I just want to know if that 4870 w/ the 1-gb is using the vapor chamber cooler or just a standar cooler, anybody know for sure?
October 24, 2008 7:45:12 AM

well, ive got 2 3870 toxic cards and i love 'em. cool and super quiet
November 6, 2008 4:15:35 PM

looks to be but I think they just used a similar cowling. Vapor X coolers needs to be flush with the card for the heat exchange to work and I seeing some sizable gaps between the 1gb cowling and the card
November 12, 2008 11:01:07 PM

I have this card.... had it for a week now....
Is it possible that this is a fake? On CCleaner it says 4800 series. haven't checked the video RAM yet but it does look legitimate as a Sapphire card. Box and prepherials all here. Anyone mind doing an investigation into this?
February 19, 2009 3:23:26 AM

FrozenGpu said:
I don't see anywhere does it say toxic, so i doubt it uses that same type of cooling convection.

It does look very suspicious, and I also thought it was a toxic edition 1gb version, but you know it's not on the Sapphrie website, only a 1gb version but not a 1gb toxic version of hte 4870.

I could have sworn it was a toxic version as well, but it probably isn't.

edit: This is the list of cards on their website:

"SAPPHIRE HD 4800 Series
SAPPHIRE HD 4830 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 1GB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E Dual Slot Fansink
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 1G GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 X2 2G GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE TOXIC HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE TOXIC HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E"


I just bought a sapphire hd4870 and it is 512mb not toxic and it has that cooler.
February 19, 2009 6:38:26 PM

No this is not the toxic, all sapphire 4870s look like this. The toxic is a step up from this in terms of cooling.

Alternatively you could get the cheapest 4870 and then buy your own aftermarket VGA cooler - you'd get similar or better performance than the toxic and cheaper
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April 18, 2009 10:08:52 PM

@ Megamanx00 (Basically, it's using the same cooler as the TOXIC, but it's running at the default speeds. You shouldn't have a problem overclocking it to TOXIC speeds, or beyond, but I guess that will just depend.)

[*** ing noob, the toxic version has an OTHER cooler then the non-toxic

The toxic has higher clockspeeds + a special non-reference vapor x cooling, which is a WELL improvement, i know that because i own the 1gb toxic, and a friend of me the stock one.
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