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Saphire toxic 4870 1GB---is this cooler worth it??

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jonj320   10-24-2008 at 04:29:36 AM

hey everyone. im getting a 4870 soon and i heard about saphire's toxic cooling system. reviews say that this lowers temps almost 20c lower. i've seen the toxic 4870 512mb(here--------> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102796 but i've newer seen a toxic 1 GB version.

but than today i saw this on newegg(-------> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102801 is this a toxic 4870 1GB?? it has the same black cooler with heat pipes (3rd picture) it looks like a toxic edition but no where on the page does it say its a toxic, and it dosnt say toxic on the card either. so im asking if anyone knows what this card is??? thanks

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r-sky   10-24-2008 at 05:13:17 AM
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Look at the link now... All fixed and not the 1gig version.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102796

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jonj320   10-24-2008 at 05:26:31 AM
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ok, so the 512mb version is the toxic but the 1 GB version isnt?? that sucks. but ok. thank you

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FrozenGpu   10-24-2008 at 05:31:16 AM
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jonj320 wrote :

hey everyone. im getting a 4870 soon and i heard about saphire's toxic cooling system. reviews say that this lowers temps almost 20c lower. i've seen the toxic 4870 512mb(here--------> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102796 but i've newer seen a toxic 1 GB version.

 

but than today i saw this on newegg(-------> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102801 is this a toxic 4870 1GB?? it has the same black cooler with heat pipes (3rd picture) it looks like a toxic edition but no where on the page does it say its a toxic, and it dosnt say toxic on the card either. so im asking if anyone knows what this card is??? thanks

 

I don't see anywhere does it say toxic, so i doubt it uses that same type of cooling convection.

 

It does look very suspicious, and I also thought it was a toxic edition 1gb version, but you know it's not on the Sapphrie website, only a 1gb version but not a 1gb toxic version of hte 4870.

 

I could have sworn it was a toxic version as well, but it probably isn't.

 

edit: This is the list of cards on their website:

 

"SAPPHIRE HD 4800 Series
SAPPHIRE HD 4830 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 1GB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E Dual Slot Fansink
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 1G GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 X2 2G GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE TOXIC HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE TOXIC HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E"

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megamanx00   10-24-2008 at 05:43:42 AM
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Basically, it's using the same cooler as the TOXIC, but it's running at the default speeds. You shouldn't have a problem overclocking it to TOXIC speeds, or beyond, but I guess that will just depend.

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jonj320   10-24-2008 at 05:56:18 AM
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the one person who wrote a review on the newegg page said that he has 40c temps at idle, so i hope he isnt lieing..

im just trying to decide if the new fan over the stock cooler makes this worth buying.

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FrozenGpu   10-24-2008 at 05:59:07 AM
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megamanx00 wrote :

Basically, it's using the same cooler as the TOXIC, but it's running at the default speeds. You shouldn't have a problem overclocking it to TOXIC speeds, or beyond, but I guess that will just depend.



Are you sure though? B/c if it is, and it's only $10-ish I don't really see a point in not going w/ it.

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jonj320   10-24-2008 at 06:31:54 AM
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thats what i was thinking, i just want someone to confirm that this cooler actually works

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eklipz330   10-24-2008 at 07:01:08 AM
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what resolution you playing at?

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jonj320   10-24-2008 at 07:05:40 AM
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right now im at 1680x1050, but im going to get a 24 or 27 inch monitor for christmas so ill need the extra ram for the 19x10(sorry dont know exactly) resolution

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eklipz330   10-24-2008 at 07:16:29 AM
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1980*1200 most likely, but ok, 1 think the one gb wouldnt be a bad move...but the toxic wouldn't be either

i would go for the toxic personally

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jonj320   10-24-2008 at 07:49:40 AM
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ya thats the resolution, sorry. so you would pick the toxic 512mb over the other 1GB even though there is only a $10 difference between them?

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macer1   10-24-2008 at 08:14:59 AM
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1 gb sapphire, check the reviews of the 1 gb 4870. they do surpass the 512.

for 10$ the 1gb is a no brainer

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Proximon   10-24-2008 at 08:24:36 AM
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Apparently ATI is going to change it's reference design on at least the 4870 and up to this new vapor chamber tech. If it were me, I would bet all larger Sapphire cards adopting this in the next few weeks, with the others following.

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FrozenGpu   10-24-2008 at 09:29:40 AM
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macer1 wrote :

look at the heat pipes, same design different materials

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Show [...] -%20Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Show [...] -%20Retail



See I'm not even sure if they are actually using the toxic cooler on that 4870 w/ 1gb, the 4870 512 toxic is using copper heatpipes but the 4870 1gb could be using nickel plated copper heatpipes we wouldn't know until somebody had a review on that version....

I just want to know if that 4870 w/ the 1-gb is using the vapor chamber cooler or just a standar cooler, anybody know for sure?

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cobra5000   10-24-2008 at 09:45:12 AM
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well, ive got 2 3870 toxic cards and i love 'em. cool and super quiet

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Skyshark232   11-06-2008 at 07:15:35 PM
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looks to be but I think they just used a similar cowling. Vapor X coolers needs to be flush with the card for the heat exchange to work and I seeing some sizable gaps between the 1gb cowling and the card

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jerrywei   11-13-2008 at 02:01:07 AM
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I have this card.... had it for a week now....
Is it possible that this is a fake? On CCleaner it says 4800 series. haven't checked the video RAM yet but it does look legitimate as a Sapphire card. Box and prepherials all here. Anyone mind doing an investigation into this?

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kajabbi   02-19-2009 at 06:23:26 AM
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FrozenGpu wrote :

I don't see anywhere does it say toxic, so i doubt it uses that same type of cooling convection.

It does look very suspicious, and I also thought it was a toxic edition 1gb version, but you know it's not on the Sapphrie website, only a 1gb version but not a 1gb toxic version of hte 4870.

I could have sworn it was a toxic version as well, but it probably isn't.

edit: This is the list of cards on their website:

"SAPPHIRE HD 4800 Series
SAPPHIRE HD 4830 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 1GB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E Dual Slot Fansink
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 1G GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 X2 2G GDDR5 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE TOXIC HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
SAPPHIRE TOXIC HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E"



I just bought a sapphire hd4870 and it is 512mb not toxic and it has that cooler.

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fruees   02-19-2009 at 09:38:26 PM
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No this is not the toxic, all sapphire 4870s look like this. The toxic is a step up from this in terms of cooling.

Alternatively you could get the cheapest 4870 and then buy your own aftermarket VGA cooler - you'd get similar or better performance than the toxic and cheaper

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Anonymous   04-19-2009 at 12:08:52 AM
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@ Megamanx00 (Basically, it's using the same cooler as the TOXIC, but it's running at the default speeds. You shouldn't have a problem overclocking it to TOXIC speeds, or beyond, but I guess that will just depend.)

 

[*** ing noob, the toxic version has an OTHER cooler then the non-toxic

 

The toxic has higher clockspeeds + a special non-reference vapor x cooling, which is a WELL improvement, i know that because i own the 1gb toxic, and a friend of me the stock one.


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