Hi there! This is my first time building a computer from scratch, and my goal here is to build a good performing machine that can game reasonably well, and be able to do everyday tasks fast, without breaking my wallet Note that I live in Canada, so the prices are not always the lowest on the internet. These are all in canadian dollars and are from directcanada.com
Please give your opinions/suggestions/feedback ! They will be very helpful before I make these purchases!
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB -- 179.88$
Asus P5Q Pro Atx LGA775 P45 --138.88$
Palit Radeon HD 4850 512MB -- 179.28$ (before 30$ Mail-In rebate)
G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-15 -- 72.36$
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 640GB 3.5IN SATA2 7200RPM 32MB Cache -- 75.88$
Coolermaster CM 690 Mid Tower Black ATX Case 5X5.25 5X3.5INT -- 71.28$$
Coolermaster Extreme Power 600W ATX 12V V2.01 Silent Power Supply 20/24PIN 120MM Fan -- 61.56$
Antec TriCool 120MM Case Fan 3-SPEED 1200/1600/2200RPM 25/28/30DBA 39/56/79CFM 3 & 4PINS --3x6.93$
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro LGA775 2500RPM 45CFM -- 20.23$
LG GH22NS30 Black DVD+RW 22X8X16 DVD-RW 22X6X16 DL 16X/12X 2MB SATA -- 25.96$
Samsung 2053BW 20IN Widescreen Lcd Monitor Black 1680X1050 8000:1 2MS -- 199.88$
Total: 1,045.98$
the basic idea here is to have all the base parts (case, power supply, hard drive, fans, LCD) needed if i ever want to upgrade, if buying a second radeon 4850 in crossfire does not satisfy or theres a better option.
Well everything except the PSU looks good. Cooler Master PSUs are known to have low quality standards compared to other quality units, I would get a different unit from Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, or PCP&C.
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610W EPS12V ATX V2.2 24PIN SLI Ready Active PFC 80MM Fan Power Supply
That is the bare minimum I would get for the possibility of HD 4850 in crossfire. The one you chose, even though is rated for 600W, doesn't have nearly as much power on the combined 12V rails (which is what matters the most), In fact I wouldn't even run a single HD 4850, since it'd cutting it too close for my taste.
Well everything except the PSU looks good. Cooler Master PSUs are known to have low quality standards compared to other quality units, I would get a different unit from Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, or PCP&C.
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610W EPS12V ATX V2.2 24PIN SLI Ready Active PFC 80MM Fan Power Supply
That is the bare minimum I would get for the possibility of HD 4850 in crossfire. The one you chose, even though is rated for 600W, doesn't have nearly as much power on the combined 12V rails (which is what matters the most), In fact I wouldn't even run a single HD 4850, since it'd cutting it too close for my taste.
Whoa, I had no idea the Cooler Master PSUs could be so bad. Thanks for the suggestions, I think i'll go with the Corsair one, which is a bit cheaper than the others.
What is the opinion on the RAM? I'm not exactly sure about the brand G-Skill, and it seems like that my mobo would recognize the RAM as ddr 800, and i'll have to overclock it a bit to 1066 or at least 1000. Is this true?
Not at all, intel CPUs run fine with RAM on a 1:1 ratio, that particular CPU runs at 1333 FSB which would need at least DDR2 667 ram to run in 1:1 (Effective speed of DDR2 667 is 1333), so your memory would start hitting limitations after running FSB beyond 1600, at this point you would also have to overclock your memory to achieve higher speeds.
A few years back I didn't know what to think of G.Skill, since I was pretty close minded only accepting Corsair or Crucial as memory, but both G.Skill and OCZ have grown on me and I've come to like them quite a bit. Personally as long as it has decent specs (timings, voltage, and speed) I would go for OCZ, G.Skill, Crucial, or Corsair memory in no particular order.
Not at all, intel CPUs run fine with RAM on a 1:1 ratio, that particular CPU runs at 1333 FSB which would need at least DDR2 667 ram to run in 1:1 (Effective speed of DDR2 667 is 1333), so your memory would start hitting limitations after running FSB beyond 1600, at this point you would also have to overclock your memory to achieve higher speeds.
Thanks for the feedback. You got me a bit confused here..... so the effective speed of this ddr2 1000 RAM is 2000? Isn't that beyond 1600? I apologize if im too dumb to understand what you were saying Another thing I noticed around the forums is thermal paste between the CPU and the heatsink. Is this a good idea in my case? If so please give me some suggestions on a good brand and price range. Thanks!
It is always a good idea to get thermal paste, since it increases thermal conductivity. My personal choice is Arctic silver Ceramique.
I'm sorry, you're right, I thought you had picked out DDR2 800 memory, it's actually DDR2 1000, so yeah it's rated for up to 1000 (2000Mhz Effective), in which case you can run your FSB up to 2000 without running into any snags as far as memory is concerned. (However CPU limitations might happen before that point)
Basically don't be too concerned about it, your memory is perfectly fine for the board and CPU you chose and you have a good headroom left on it in case you decide to start overclocking.
I found out just about right now that the RAM I'm planning on buying is not on the QVL of the Asus P5Q PRO, but the 4GB 800 and 2GB 1066 from the same company G.Skill are both on the QVL. Would this be a problem for my build? If anyone have any ideas that would be great. Thanks.
If it makes you feel safer, then get either the DDR2 800 or DDR2 1066 kits, I don't think it'll really make a difference, but it's always better to buy yourself some peace of mind on your first build.
Of course, DDR means Double Data Rate, meaning that the rated speed is not the effective speed of the memory. (DDR2 800 runs at 1600Mhz effective) So if you're CPU running at an an FSB of 1333, then the minimum you'll require is DDR2 667, but it is recommended that you get faster memory than that.
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