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Hi all i'm new to this forum and have a question that i can't solve. I recently build a new pc, and overclocked it, ASUS Crosshair Formula 2 8 GB geil ddr 2 pc6400 and a AMD Phenom 2 965 @ 3,8 Ghz atleast that's what the bios tells me and Microsoft(device manager) but when i open Cpu-z and core temp they both give me strange readings, 879.98 Mhz(219.99 X4) on each coré no one seem to can help me and figure out what it is, The Mhz of the memory readings are correct and it's a little bit stressing me out :( someone please help me i have the same readings on both program's thanks in advance
 
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I think that the bios is more reliable.? right? and another thing is when i go to can u run it,(system requirements lab) it gives me the right speeds, Phenom 2 @ 3,8
sorry 4 my english BTW
 
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These are the CPU-z readings sorry for my 3 posts

CPU-Z TXT Report
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Binaries
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CPU-Z version 1.53.1

Processors
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Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4

APICs
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Processor 0
-- Core 0
-- Thread 0 0
-- Core 1
-- Thread 0 1
-- Core 2
-- Thread 0 2
-- Core 3
-- Thread 0 3

Processors Information
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Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 4 (max 4)
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
Name AMD Phenom II X4 965
Codename Deneb
Specification AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor
Package Socket AM3 (938)
CPUID F.4.2
Extended CPUID 10.4
Brand ID 14
Core Stepping RB-C2
Technology 45 nm
Core Speed 880.0 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 4.0 x 220.0 MHz
HT Link speed 2200.0 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V
L1 Data cache 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache 6 MBytes, 48-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
Min FID 4.0x
P-State FID 0x12 - VID 0x0A
P-State FID 0xB - VID 0x12
P-State FID 0x6 - VID 0x1A
P-State FID 0x100 - VID 0x2A

Package Type 0x1
Model 65
String 1 0x3
String 2 0x6
Page 0x0
TDP Limit 139 Watts
TDC Limit 92 Amps
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 4


Thread dumps
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CPU Thread 0
APIC ID 0
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0
Type 02004009h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 6 MB, 4 thread(s)

CPUID
0x00000000 0x00000005 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x00000001 0x00100F42 0x00040800 0x00802009 0x178BFBFF
0x00000002 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000005 0x00000040 0x00000040 0x00000003 0x00000000
0x80000000 0x8000001B 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x80000001 0x00100F42 0x10001C16 0x000037FF 0xEFD3FBFF
0x80000002 0x20444D41 0x6E656850 0x74286D6F 0x4920296D
0x80000003 0x34582049 0x35363920 0x6F725020 0x73736563
0x80000004 0x0000726F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000005 0xFF30FF10 0xFF30FF20 0x40020140 0x40020140
0x80000006 0x20800000 0x42004200 0x02008140 0x0030B140
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x000001F9
0x80000008 0x00003030 0x00000000 0x00002003 0x00000000
0x80000009 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000A 0x00000001 0x00000040 0x00000000 0x0000000F
0x8000000B 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000C 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000D 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000E 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000010 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000011 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000012 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000013 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000014 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000015 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000016 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000017 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000018 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000019 0xF0300000 0x60100000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001A 0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001B 0x0000001F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

MSR 0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00900
MSR 0xC0010061 0x00000000 0x00000030
MSR 0xC0010062 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010063 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010064 0x800001E5 0x48001412
MSR 0xC0010065 0x800001A4 0x4800240B
MSR 0xC0010066 0x80000178 0x48003406
MSR 0xC0010067 0x80000136 0x48005440
MSR 0xC0010068 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010071 0x00800000 0x48001440
MSR 0xC0010015 0x00000000 0x01000010
MSR 0xC001001F 0x00584000 0x00000008
MSR 0xC0010058 0x00000000 0xF0000001
MSR 0xC0010004 0x000059B2 0xD8D21C88
MSR 0xC0010071 0x00800000 0x48001440
MSR 0xC0010070 0x00000000 0x48001412

CPU Thread 1
APIC ID 1
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 1, Thread ID 0
Type 02004009h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 6 MB, 4 thread(s)

CPUID
0x00000000 0x00000005 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x00000001 0x00100F42 0x01040800 0x00802009 0x178BFBFF
0x00000002 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000005 0x00000040 0x00000040 0x00000003 0x00000000
0x80000000 0x8000001B 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x80000001 0x00100F42 0x10001C16 0x000037FF 0xEFD3FBFF
0x80000002 0x20444D41 0x6E656850 0x74286D6F 0x4920296D
0x80000003 0x34582049 0x35363920 0x6F725020 0x73736563
0x80000004 0x0000726F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000005 0xFF30FF10 0xFF30FF20 0x40020140 0x40020140
0x80000006 0x20800000 0x42004200 0x02008140 0x0030B140
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x000001F9
0x80000008 0x00003030 0x00000000 0x00002003 0x00000000
0x80000009 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000A 0x00000001 0x00000040 0x00000000 0x0000000F
0x8000000B 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000C 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000D 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000E 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000010 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000011 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000012 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000013 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000014 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000015 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000016 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000017 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000018 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000019 0xF0300000 0x60100000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001A 0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001B 0x0000001F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

MSR 0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00800
MSR 0xC0010061 0x00000000 0x00000030
MSR 0xC0010062 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010063 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010064 0x800001E5 0x48001412
MSR 0xC0010065 0x800001A4 0x4800240B
MSR 0xC0010066 0x80000178 0x48003406
MSR 0xC0010067 0x80000136 0x48005440
MSR 0xC0010068 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010071 0x00800000 0x48001440
MSR 0xC0010015 0x00000000 0x01000010
MSR 0xC001001F 0x00584000 0x00000008
MSR 0xC0010058 0x00000000 0xF0000001
MSR 0xC0010004 0x00007DF0 0x60A4246F
MSR 0xC0010071 0x00800000 0x48001440
MSR 0xC0010070 0x00000000 0x48001412

CPU Thread 2
APIC ID 2
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 2, Thread ID 0
Type 02004009h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 6 MB, 4 thread(s)

CPUID
0x00000000 0x00000005 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x00000001 0x00100F42 0x02040800 0x00802009 0x178BFBFF
0x00000002 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000005 0x00000040 0x00000040 0x00000003 0x00000000
0x80000000 0x8000001B 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x80000001 0x00100F42 0x10001C16 0x000037FF 0xEFD3FBFF
0x80000002 0x20444D41 0x6E656850 0x74286D6F 0x4920296D
0x80000003 0x34582049 0x35363920 0x6F725020 0x73736563
0x80000004 0x0000726F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000005 0xFF30FF10 0xFF30FF20 0x40020140 0x40020140
0x80000006 0x20800000 0x42004200 0x02008140 0x0030B140
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x000001F9
0x80000008 0x00003030 0x00000000 0x00002003 0x00000000
0x80000009 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000A 0x00000001 0x00000040 0x00000000 0x0000000F
0x8000000B 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000C 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000D 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000E 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000010 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000011 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000012 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000013 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000014 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000015 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000016 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000017 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000018 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000019 0xF0300000 0x60100000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001A 0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001B 0x0000001F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

MSR 0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00800
MSR 0xC0010061 0x00000000 0x00000030
MSR 0xC0010062 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010063 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010064 0x800001E5 0x48001412
MSR 0xC0010065 0x800001A4 0x4800240B
MSR 0xC0010066 0x80000178 0x48003406
MSR 0xC0010067 0x80000136 0x48005440
MSR 0xC0010068 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010071 0x00800000 0x48001440
MSR 0xC0010015 0x00000000 0x01000010
MSR 0xC001001F 0x00584000 0x00000008
MSR 0xC0010058 0x00000000 0xF0000001
MSR 0xC0010004 0x000016EE 0x66EB0F18
MSR 0xC0010071 0x00800000 0x48001440
MSR 0xC0010070 0x00000000 0x48001412

CPU Thread 3
APIC ID 3
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 3, Thread ID 0
Type 02004009h
Max CPUID level 00000005h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 3, U, 6 MB, 4 thread(s)

CPUID
0x00000000 0x00000005 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x00000001 0x00100F42 0x03040800 0x00802009 0x178BFBFF
0x00000002 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000005 0x00000040 0x00000040 0x00000003 0x00000000
0x80000000 0x8000001B 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x80000001 0x00100F42 0x10001C16 0x000037FF 0xEFD3FBFF
0x80000002 0x20444D41 0x6E656850 0x74286D6F 0x4920296D
0x80000003 0x34582049 0x35363920 0x6F725020 0x73736563
0x80000004 0x0000726F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000005 0xFF30FF10 0xFF30FF20 0x40020140 0x40020140
0x80000006 0x20800000 0x42004200 0x02008140 0x0030B140
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x000001F9
0x80000008 0x00003030 0x00000000 0x00002003 0x00000000
0x80000009 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000A 0x00000001 0x00000040 0x00000000 0x0000000F
0x8000000B 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000C 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000D 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000E 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000010 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000011 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000012 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000013 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000014 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000015 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000016 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000017 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000018 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000019 0xF0300000 0x60100000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001A 0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001B 0x0000001F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

MSR 0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00800
MSR 0xC0010061 0x00000000 0x00000030
MSR 0xC0010062 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010063 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010064 0x800001E5 0x48001412
MSR 0xC0010065 0x800001A4 0x4800240B
MSR 0xC0010066 0x80000178 0x48003406
MSR 0xC0010067 0x80000136 0x48005440
MSR 0xC0010068 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010071 0x00800000 0x48001440
MSR 0xC0010015 0x00000000 0x01000010
MSR 0xC001001F 0x00584000 0x00000008
MSR 0xC0010058 0x00000000 0xF0000001
MSR 0xC0010004 0x00007E8C 0x40DAB259
MSR 0xC0010071 0x00800000 0x48001440
MSR 0xC0010070 0x00000000 0x48001412



Chipset
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Northbridge NVIDIA nForce 780a SLI SPP rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 780a SLI MCP rev. A2
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x8
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 8192 MBytes
Channels Dual, (Unganged)
Memory Frequency 440.0 MHz (1:2)
CAS# latency (CL) 5.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 24
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Uncore Frequency 2200.0 MHz

Memory SPD
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DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) GEIL (7F7F7F1300000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CL4-4-4DDR2800 5
Serial number 00000009
Manufacturing date Week 10/Year 08
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 3.0-4-4-10-16 @ 266 MHz
JEDEC #2 4.0-5-5-13-20 @ 333 MHz
JEDEC #3 5.0-5-5-15-23 @ 400 MHz

DIMM # 2
SMBus address 0x51
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) GEIL (7F7F7F1300000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CL4-4-4DDR2800 5
Serial number 00000009
Manufacturing date Week 10/Year 08
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 3.0-4-4-10-16 @ 266 MHz
JEDEC #2 4.0-5-5-13-20 @ 333 MHz
JEDEC #3 5.0-5-5-15-23 @ 400 MHz

DIMM # 3
SMBus address 0x52
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) GEIL (7F7F7F1300000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CL4-4-4DDR2800 5
Serial number 00000009
Manufacturing date Week 10/Year 08
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 3.0-4-4-10-16 @ 266 MHz
JEDEC #2 4.0-5-5-13-20 @ 333 MHz
JEDEC #3 5.0-5-5-15-23 @ 400 MHz

DIMM # 4
SMBus address 0x53
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) GEIL (7F7F7F1300000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CL4-4-4DDR2800 5
Serial number 00000009
Manufacturing date Week 10/Year 08
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 3.0-4-4-10-16 @ 266 MHz
JEDEC #2 4.0-5-5-13-20 @ 333 MHz
JEDEC #3 5.0-5-5-15-23 @ 400 MHz
 
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Thx obsidian,for your fast reply,

i'm downloading now,:) but what i still don't get,is the CPU peforming at 3,8 or isit, really peforming at 4 x 880 :S i don't seem to lag with games or something only the start up time is to long :S

 
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@ obsidian

I Reflashed Bios. But problem remains, Microsoft istelling good clock speeds Bios telling good clock speeds Can u run it displays good speeds,

Cpu-z is doing strange Core temp also Any other suggestions (i reinstalled Win 7 64 bit)
 
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YOu have cool n quiet active and when the system is in idle mode it will downclock the CPU speed to an x4 multiplier to conserve energy since the CPU is not doing anything that requires more and that is what CPU-z will report as the speed - IT is running as designed but as obsidian said if you go in and disable CNQ it will start reporting it accurately. (if you are OCing the CPPU you normally will want to disable CnQ anyway !!)
 
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^+1 for both Obsidian86, and JDFan for helping explain things more.

Cool N Quiet. Bios/Windows only read max clock, not the current clock set. CPU-Z actually reads the current clock used, regardless of what the BIOS states the speed to be at. So if coolnquiet is enabled, which it most likely is then your phenom 925 will downclock itself when idle to conserve energy hence why it's at 800 mhz+~. I have found CPU-Z to be fairly accurate in most scenarios.

If you are overclocking, disabling Cool N Quiet is a good idea for stability testing or prolonged used of the overclocked settings.

Cool N Quiet tends to fluctuate voltages/clocks even when in use, which in turn can produce inaccurate results.
 
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Thx Guys for your reply's but it still didn't help for me, i tryed some other things you said (bios CNQ) is disabled,when i run the AMD Clock tool it gives me good readings and fluctuates between 3733 3750 (but when i let windows 7 give a mark for my calculations per second i only get a 3,8) in marks :S i think that's really Low, i got higher scores with my Q8200. i tried several different program's and watch how it changes when i game but the muliplyer stayes at 4.0 with a mamimum of 880Mhz,

:(

Thx for your help
 
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BIOS and Windows will always give the max clock. Windows actually takes the clock speed from the BIOS.

Your motherboard may be have some fluctuations in power fed to CPU thus affecting some of the speeds..


Also check your power settings on Windows 7 make sure Processor power management has your CPU set at 100% minimum/100% maximum state.


Do the clock speeds fluctuate by more then 50mhz when you run prime 95 or another CPU stressing software?
 
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thx 4 your fast reply i have all the options enabled as you say, th Mhz don't fluctuate more than 50 Mhz in orthos or prime 95
THe strange thing is the performance with aunpacking winrar gaming etc, is verry fast And i think i wont be able to play without lag when it doesn;t function properly (what you do you think is this hardware related or a software related error
Thx in advance,

i'm going to to the store with my daughter back in an hour

I appreciate the help verry much :)

sorry 4 my englsih BTW
 
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BTW( when i testprime 95and orthos they give me this reading 3740 Mhz fsb 220 mhz x170.est) that is correct ( but i when i run cpu-z and core temps by the side of ortos and prime 95 i see still the wrong readings in core temp and cpu-z and to what above was said, for the energy savinf feature the multiplyer never goed that low.? from 17 dropped till 4 i never saw this,. my q8200 with energy saving options enabled dropped only 800 Mhz,. not 3000

:( want a slution am desperate
 
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Do you have ASUS EPU software installed? You would probably see a yellow icon in your system tray that changes from a man to an airplane somethimes. This software will downclock your cpu as well. However it should automatically turn off if it detects an overclocked system, so maybe that isn't the problem. I would check your installed programs just in case. Also disable C1E in your bios if you haven't already.
 
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Interesting. Do you have the latest versions of CPU-Z/Core Temp?

Whats power supply are you using and complete setup for that particular machine.
Hard drives, ram stick types/how many, gpu, processor, motherboard, how many usb devices, how many fans etc.

It could be a motherboard not feeding the correct voltage, leaving the CPU working down clocks to try to reach stability but that is not usual at all...

What happens if you leave your CPU at stock clock/voltage?
 
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Since you have a 965, try leaving the FSB/HT ref. clock at 200mhz while only raising the multiplier, it might be that your RAM might not OC well or isn't getting enough voltage. Just make sure you're using anywhere from 1.4-1.45V for your CPU VDD in BIOS, for stabilty.

Just wondering, but do you use Kstat10? That might be affecting your clocks since it changes P-states.
 
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@ asanatheist. my full specs are:
Case :Lian LI 12 Fans
PSU : Antec Earthpower earthwatss or something 750 watts
Mobo: Asus Crosshair Formula 2
Cpu:phenom 2 965 BE(Cooling) Asus Silent Knight
Ram: Geil DDR 2 8 Gb @ 1066 OC
2 tb S-ata hd
Zalman fancontroller
4 Uv 30 cm

( i just downclocked to it's standard value's and it gives me wrong readings again:S
from a 880 mhz to 800(4 x 200.my ht link is @ 2009
everything on Stock settings :('

@ kokin my voltage are 1.46 and is don't use kstat10.
ram overclocked 8 gb geil ddr 2 from 8 till 1066
don;t think that's the problem, i put everything on stock but didn't help

thx 4 your reply's much appreciated
 
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I overclocked everything again this time 4.1 Ghz 22Mhzx 18.5 )and orthos and prime see the good readings so as other online prgram's but my problem remains
with everest,cpu-z,coretemp.
good readings
Microsoft(due2 the bios)Can you run it(system requirements lab) all the stress tools and AMD CLock
 
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(sorry forgot my Low end Graphics card,: Poin of view 9600 GT)

sorry vor the triple posts

and for above it is 4070 Mhz 220Mhz x 18.5) But i guess you guys allready figured out i forgot a 0
lol :)
 
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I now have my system Stable @ 4 x 4.5 Ghz 231 Mhz x 19.5 VCore 1.4250

Cpu-z gives me this readings : 231.24 x 4.0=924.96 Mhz per core

So the Bus speed is Displayed well and the multiplyer sticks @ 4

what you guys think.????
 
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i just went to PCL COmputers it's a PCStore here in holland all with chinese and korean people :D i thgought i ask them i took my case went to the store and even they can;t figure it out, they say i have nothing to worry about, and that it is peforming @ the clocked speed (4,5)ghz Thet said it was an amazing overclock with 4 instances of orthos running my temps didn't go above 49 full load, i went all the way up to 4.8 Ghz before it got to hot and i had to open the case, even then i got it stable but after the boot up, i noticed an decrease of performance in games,(my 9600gt is bottlenecking like hell) but after a while i thought it was my cpu so i crancked the voltages up a bit. and all was working well, i must say this is the first time i have an amd and the fist time i had such a major overclock like this on air, and all with verry good temps.the only thing that is depressing me are the wrong value's in the program's i mentiont above. i did everything i could ,but i can't figure out the problem and what still worries me is the amazing low score that windows gave me after puttin a benchmark on my cpu 3,9 WTF for a 4.5 ghz its incredibly low
but when i go and set up some multitasking it performs verryverry good. for instance i unpacked 3 games at the samen time(ripps from skullptura) so with a batch file i let winrar unpack 2 games 5 Gb in 70 sec that's verry fast, + i let one instace running of orthos while i'm playing mw2 @1920 x 1080 o x aa 16 xAf and everything on extra and still no lack of performance.
I'm not a total noob and most things i can figure them out myself but i never seen this before, evern send an email to cpu-z they say the latest version is fully compatible with the processor, and since core temps is giving me the same wrong readings,+ the low score on windows calculations per...... 3,9mark.
i'm still worried,

is There any PRO out there that can help me. i build a lot of pc's and did a lot of overclocks, and cpu-z never malfunctionéd in my life,+ the other software related marks, i'm still verry worried,

PLease someone help me
 
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uh...I'm happy for you, but do tell how you solved it. I'm getting some strange low readings on CPU-Z myself so I was hoping to find a possible solution reading through this thread.
 
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If you see your AMD CPU clocks drop to roughly 1/4 the rated speed of the CPU, that is because a feature that downclocks it and reduces voltage to it while it's idle to conserve energy is doing so

That feature is called Cool'n'Quiet.

It is enabled and disabled within the motherboard BIOS. If disabled, the CPU will run at whatever clock speed and voltage it is set to all the time.
 
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