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SirRob   09-29-2008 at 03:30:49 AM

This is my first time building a computer and am a little lost. I've been reading a bunch of literature on the topic and have replaced almost all the parts in computers many times. However I knew all those parts went with each other. However making one on your own has the drawback of not knowing all these parts work together. So I was wondering if someone could help enlighten me as to the art of building or anything I should read. This is the current build of the system, I have Vista x64 Home Premium and a 500gb HD with a 16mb cache. Anyone who could please tell me if this will work and if it's good I would greatly appreciate the help. :hello:


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emp   09-29-2008 at 03:35:06 AM
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Nice... for a little more you can get a Q9550, which should overclock better and run cooler. Not to mention that is actually in stock at the moment.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115041

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SirRob   09-29-2008 at 03:38:00 AM
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Oh...my apologies, I forgot to mention the budget. It's only $1100. I already got the CPU, I just put it in there to show that it's part of the system (There was an awesome deal for the Q6700 for $210)

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emp   09-29-2008 at 03:54:14 AM
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Nice, but you're still missing a GPU, I would suggest at the very least an HD 4850.

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emp   09-29-2008 at 05:49:51 AM
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I think you should go with Dual HD 4850s, given the fact your board is limited to x8/x8, if you crossfire HD 4870s the bandwidth limitations will show greater loss compared to HD 4850. Add to that the fact that you can get 2 HD 4850s for $340 before rebates.

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SirRob   09-29-2008 at 06:01:44 AM
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Well I'd rather change the motherboard than the GPU. Since for Xmas my parents said they'd match my GPU with the same.

Like this Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813186148

Can't tell if it supports Xfire though.

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emp   09-29-2008 at 06:18:12 AM
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x8/x8 is a limitation on the P45 chipset, you'd need to get an X38 board in order not to be limited by it.

DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813136045

------------------------------ Anxiously awaiting the Hydra 100 and the Hydra Engine...
www.lucidlogix.com
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SirRob   09-29-2008 at 06:26:09 AM
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the X48 set work the same or just the X38?

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emp   09-29-2008 at 06:36:56 AM
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The X48 is basically a higher binned X38 chip, so don't bother with them, since an X38 can do 98% of what the X48 can do at $100 less (and that really only applies to overclocking). Both will give you the x16/x16 bandwidth required for HD 4870 crossfire.


Message edited by emp on 09-29-2008 at 06:37:25 AM
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SirRob   09-29-2008 at 06:45:07 AM
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Thank you. So much to learn still. This is very troubling. Do you know of any literature that would give me a broad knowledge of this all?

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emp   09-29-2008 at 06:49:44 AM
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Here are some tests (Even though these are on early 8.6 catalyst, but it's just to give you an idea of the x8/x8 limitations, which will be greater when using HD 4870s)

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/ [...] index.html

------------------------------ Anxiously awaiting the Hydra 100 and the Hydra Engine...
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SirRob   09-29-2008 at 07:34:56 PM
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I can't seem to find any mobo's that have x16/x16 and are for a decent price <$150.

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emp   09-30-2008 at 12:07:13 AM
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That's because there are none for intel platforms. Only AMD boards would be that cheap and still offer x16/x16 crossfire performance.

------------------------------ Anxiously awaiting the Hydra 100 and the Hydra Engine...
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SirRob   09-30-2008 at 03:50:36 AM
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Well then I'll buy a mediocre board for now and wait till either xmas or easter and get a new board that supports it.

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