Slower X3 or faster X2

[Joe18]

I`m trying to put together a Gaming computer and i was wondering if it would be better to get a faster Dual core such as, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103228 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103272. Or is it a better idea to get a slower 3 core such as http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103254 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103253 .
Either way it will be OC'd as much as i can with it being stable. Thanks for any help.

 

[Pico_w]

I suggest this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103300

You should wait for phenom II coming out in January for AM2+, but if you can't then the one I suggested should be good. Are you stuck with only AMD? Will you consider Intel?


If you consider Intel then this is a nice CPU for almost the same budget. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052

 

[Joe18]

Why that one when the 6400 and 6000 are faster?

 

[r-sky]

I think he suggested that cpu as it is phenom based, 2 cores and a black edition. (unlocked multiplier)

The 6400 is probably the fastest AMD cpu for "most games".

 

[Joe18]

Will any of these run crysis on medium settings with a 9800GTX+ or should i just spend the money on the 9850? And will the 9850 play games medium to high settings?

 

[Pico_w]

The AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition has a better performance per clock. It has unlocked multiplier making it easier to overlock. Take a look at these. If you are building a new pc, you shouldn't go with these CPUs really. At least go with a Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 which overclocks really well. If you have more budget, go with a E8500 or Q6600. You should really wait for Phenom II to come out in January though.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-x2-7750.html

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/processors/AMD_Athlon_X2_7750_BE_1.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-x2-phenom,2104.html

 

[Joe18]

I cant go intel as i`m already running a AMD motheboard with a 4800+. Is the 9850 Any good?

 

[Pico_w]

I would say get the E7200 if you can check this out

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclocking-core-2-E7200,2072-7.html

 

[Joe18]

Not to be rude but i cant afford to go over to intel, i already said that.

 

[Pico_w]

http://www.techspot.com/review/93-amd-phenom-9850-black-edition/page10.html

Looks good to me... Just make sure your motherboard supports its power consumption, your bios, and socket.

 

[Joe18]

thanks

 

[84supreme]

I moved up to a x3 8750 from a x2 5000+ BE. I noticed a big improvement at stock clocks.
I mostly play Supreme Commander, World in Conflict, Red Alert 3, Age of Conan, and Eve Online just for reference.

 

[jeteryankees22]

I would stay away from the x3's...personally I'm an intel guy, but the triple cores are quads with a defective core...would you really want that?

 

[Dekasav]

And E7200's are E8400's that aren't up to snuff, would you really want that? All CPU's are generally based off one or two things with parts cut off, disabled, or running slower.

Not trying to start a fight or anything, but judge a CPU by what it is and how it performs, nothing else.

 

[pshrk]

if you want an amd system and its a choice between dual core or quad core then i would either get this dual core

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-athlon-x2-7750-be-review/

or this triple core

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103295

The unlocked multiplier of the black edition will make overclocking much easier from what i understand.

I wouldn't spend the money on an older Brisbane or Windsor dual core.

 

[pshrk]

I would stay away from the x3's...personally I'm an intel guy, but the triple cores are quads with a defective core...would you really want that?

That is a completely ridiculous argument. There is no such thing as a perfect die, all contain some sort of defects that's why memory, processors, and graphics chips are binned. Most graphics cards come with some stream processors disabled in order to increase yields in case some are defective. Processors with defective cache have some of the cache disabled. In the end it doesn't really matter, what matters is the performance that you get. Period.

If you want to argue then argue price/performance and quit spreading FUD.

 

[turboflame]

I would stay away from the x3's...personally I'm an intel guy, but the triple cores are quads with a defective core...would you really want that?

And early Conroes had to have half of their cache disabled, who cares that they were the best deal when they had defective parts? Oh and about half the GPUs on the market have cores and other components disabled. Sure the GTX260 216 has a great price / performance ratio but it's a defective GTX280, who would want that amirite?

 

[pshrk]

Will any of these run crysis on medium settings with a 9800GTX+ or should i just spend the money on the 9850? And will the 9850 play games medium to high settings?

Dual or tri core will be fine for all current games, however some games such as UT3 will benefit from more cores.

From what i understand the X3s and the newer Kuma (phenom with 2 cores disabled) X2s have higher performance per clock and overclock better than the older Windsor and Brisbane X2s (someone correct me if I'm wrong I don't overclock my AMD systems). So the only X2 I would consider is the Kuma one I linked to earlier.

 

[V3NOM]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072

cheap and ownz.

 

[spathotan]

The X2 7750 BE is a good buy at $78. Look into that OP.

 

[pshrk]

Here is another review of the X2 7750 BE (kuma):

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-x2-7750_10.html#sect0

Here is the one i posted earlier of the same processor:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-athlon-x2-7750-be-review/

 

[randomizer]

I would stay away from the x3's...personally I'm an intel guy, but the triple cores are quads with a defective core...would you really want that?

Why not? The defective core is disabled...

 

[dieseldre2k]

woo intel fanboys unite!

seriously guys, lay off the blue crack. he said he wants AMD and is obviously restricted to that by his motherboard. we all know intel is better clock per clock but he's doing it to save money. lay off the topic or answer his question -_-

 

[megamanx00]

^+1 for dieseldre2k

Anyway the 5400 X2 BE is a good value since it's cheap and has an unlocked multiplier. They generally overclock pretty well. The next step up is the 7750 which many reviewers manage to get to around 3.2GHz with the stock cooler. At that speed it will generally be faster than an overclocked Brisbane or Windsor based CPU. The X3s only show benefits over the X2s in a few applications that take advantage of more than two threads, such as video encoding. For the most part though current games benefit little, if at all, from having more than two cores. This is of course changing but it will take some time. The only X3 I would recommend getting would be the 8750BE since it has an unlocked multiplier to easily overclock it. Really though I say wait two weeks for the Phenom IIs. At the very least quad core prices will fall allowing you to get an X4 for the current price of an X3.

 

[V3NOM]

so we are being fanbois for telling him not to be so stuck on AMD? sounds a bit contradictory to me. whatever gives the most performance for the $ wins, and in this case, the e5200 =]