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September 30, 2008 9:03:14 PM

My dad needs a new computer for an employee.
hers isn't working terribly well right now. It doesn't need anything special(small HDD, 2GB RAM etc.) It will have what it needs(documents et al) by being connected to his server.

It needs to be somewhere around $500. Basically it's a discount build that needs to be reliable

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September 30, 2008 9:11:53 PM

Who is going to support it?

It's cool that you want to build one and all, but you need to look at software and support with something like this. In these cases it's usually best to go down to Best Buy or wherever and grab a Compaq/HP/BrandZ.
September 30, 2008 9:25:30 PM

My dad has a tech guy who does work for him. He manages a government building with networks and security features.

Support is no problem
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September 30, 2008 9:30:38 PM

the dude who does my dad's CE work manages the buildings
September 30, 2008 9:32:57 PM

Ok then :) 

Did you need the full deal or just the box? Monitor? OS?

September 30, 2008 9:35:55 PM

We just need the hardware. The CE will load the software.

We need the case, monitor, keyboard, and all the stuff for inside the case.

budget is now $800
September 30, 2008 9:52:23 PM

Ok then ;) 

Here's the full deal. I went with an AMD quad and a nice integrated video board. Probably more power than you need but it will stay fast for a bit.

I only spent 650.00 though... 800.00 seemed overkill.

If that list doesn't work let me know. Sometimes newegg wishlists are buggy.
September 30, 2008 9:52:28 PM

we'll keep that in mind. thanks

I want to get a custom one built so my dad's CE can compare them
September 30, 2008 9:53:20 PM

thanks proximon
September 30, 2008 9:55:06 PM

just to clarify for my dad:) 

does it have enough capacity and speed to run internet and latest micrsoft office?
September 30, 2008 10:03:01 PM

Yep, it will run Office, HD movies, and internet all at the same time if you like.

Just won't do great in games, LOL.

If you wanted to spend more, the processor and memory could be bumped up... there might be some small gain from that, but it's not needed really.
September 30, 2008 10:05:40 PM

thanks! that's what we needed to know.

My dad is going to email the CE that list and compare it to what geofelt said to use. i actually don't have a good feeling about prebuilt systems

anyone have a third option? Proximon, your build has nothing to worry about
September 30, 2008 10:13:54 PM

would G-Skill work in place of A-Data in terms of compatability with the motherboard?
September 30, 2008 10:19:30 PM

thanks. i'll see what he says. although he probably won't want to spend too much money because the computer is for an employee work station.

September 30, 2008 10:22:02 PM

that's what i have in my custom build. works really well. can't wait to test it with games on XP64

I'm guessing that it would also be compatible on the original motherboard?
September 30, 2008 10:22:44 PM

Yep no problems.
September 30, 2008 10:26:23 PM

are you good with overclocking?
September 30, 2008 10:26:39 PM

not on this build but mine
September 30, 2008 10:30:42 PM

I wouldn't say good. I know how to do moderate OCs well. Plenty of good overclockers over in the appropriate forum ;) 
September 30, 2008 10:32:54 PM

well, no one replied to my topic yet.

it's in overclocking under general discussion entitled My BIOS and SpeedStep
October 1, 2008 12:24:35 AM

You absolutely 100% should NOT build your own system.
Go to Dell or HP and buy one of their business line of systems.

They normaly come with next day on-site service.
In addition, if any software from any major software vendor has an issue with the computer and BIOS, then there is a good chance the companies will get together and fix it.

The Business Class computer will be more reliable, it will be cheaper, it will have better hardware support, and it will have better software support.

Feel free to build your own for home.
If you want to do your Dad a huge favor, try to explain to him why he should by a business class computer from HP or Dell.
(No, not their consumer line, their business line.)
October 1, 2008 2:24:39 AM

i think i said earlier in the thread that my dad has a CE that manages the computer network for 3 government buildings. support is NOT an issue

why do you think i shouldn't build a system?? The CE will do the software and support. plus make sure all the networking is good. With a homebuilt system, it's much easier to upgrade because you know the specs of the interior.

(sorry to everyone else if they think i got a little mad. I don't take kindly to people blatantly telling me not to do something)

I haven't talked to many people who are fans of prebuilt systems, especially dell.
October 2, 2008 4:57:32 PM

My recommendations:
Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775


XIGMATEK HDT-S963 92mm Rifle CPU Cooler

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F

Antec Three Hundred Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ

GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

XIGMATEK HDT-SD964 92mm Rifle CPU Cooler

XIGMATEK ACK-I7753 Retention Bracket For 4 heatpipes model only

Acer X193Wb Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor

Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 B2L-00047 Black USB Ergonomics Keyboard Mouse Included

Two things:
1. The CPU can be updated down the road, esp. after(~6 months) Nehalem comes out the prices for the current CPUs will drop quite a bit. (ie. Q9300,etc)

2. Can be easily updated, (ie. more HDDs, RAM,etc).
October 2, 2008 5:31:27 PM

I'd hate to say it, but you're better off buying a prebuild box from say Dell, or HP, as the warranty and support means that you would be covered. Plus you'd have no issues with drivers. As soon as you start building a system for business, and components go wrong, support from suppliers can get a bit messy (I know from experience!)
October 2, 2008 5:58:22 PM

+1 for HP or Dell for a business PC. You can get next day on-site service with part replacement for a reasonable amount. I think it's well worth the markup in price over building your own. Now if next day turnaround and warranty support aren't important for the machines in this company you could get away with one of the builds suggested above.

Proximon I think you have some good suggestions. I'd probably go with the AMD build in this case because of decent integrated graphics and the fact that on a business machine I wouldn't consider overclocking. I'd switch the dvd for a SATA model but otherwise it looks solid to me.

Shadow, a couple of things about your suggestion:
1) I'd personally stick with a stock cpu fan for a business build since you're not going to be overclocking.
2) You need a different motherboard (with integrated graphics) or a cheap graphics card. The P35 doesn't come with onboard video.
3) No PSU?

I'd still stick with a HP or Dell machine for a business. On the other hand, for a tech savy home user I'd say homebuilt all the way.
October 2, 2008 8:54:07 PM

^For some reason stuff got deleted while editing. The PSU would be a Antec 430W, GPU probably a 8400GS or other cheap one.

HSF is there since it's a OEM CPU.

What you guys need to get is OP doesn't NEED customer service as there is a tech taking care of the support side (he's already getting paid to do this for the current PCs)
October 2, 2008 9:14:35 PM

Thanks Shadow. I'll send this to the Tech and let him look it over.

it kinda seems similar to mine
October 3, 2008 3:36:26 AM

i'll add those to those to the list along with making sure the cooler is a XIGMATEK HDT-SD964 not SD963:) 

Probably go for the 430W
October 3, 2008 11:01:24 AM

Thanks guys
October 3, 2008 11:03:24 AM

I'll definately convince my dad of these
October 3, 2008 3:24:58 PM

Shadow703793 said:
What you guys need to get is OP doesn't NEED customer service as there is a tech taking care of the support side (he's already getting paid to do this for the current PCs) ;) 

That doesn't mean his tech is going to be able to get next day parts replacement or warranty service which is the biggest bonus to going with a HP/Dell type.
October 5, 2008 3:22:00 PM

^True. But imo, there is a better chance of the Dell dying than the PCs we build. Talk about cr@ppy PSUs. lol.