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October 1, 2008 11:57:02 PM

Well Currently I need a new computer so i can play all my games and so forth i got a 2-3k and i want to build myself

So I'm looking at...

Intel Quad COre
8 gig ram DDR3
1 or 2 video cards
High Performance Motherboard
3 500 Gig Hard Drives 10000RPM *samsung*? or is there even faster?
Antec P190
2 DVD drives
no usb ports plz. *USB HUB?* Lulz
New Monitor?
And Windows Vista Home or something
what else do you think i need?

Thanks guys ! =DD
October 2, 2008 1:21:31 AM

3 500 gigs? you know the 1.5 tb drive came out, look it up on newegg it's either seagate or samsung... i can't remember but you could get one of those (only like 180 bucks!) and than another 500 gig and have 2 tb! just an option though, depends on if you want raid or anything. or instead of a 500 gig you could get a velociraptor drive for max speed. you could park your'e O.S. and games there for fast boot up and load times. with a budget that huge ALOT is possible

also DO NOT get vista home, you're much better with at least premium, especially cause you will need 64 bit version for more than 3 gigs of RAM. video card wise consider the nvidia gtx 280, or maybe 2 of them lol i don't know. for a power supply if you want sli get a 1000 watt from pc power and cooling, for 1 get 1 750 watt. those things NEVER fail.

and finally 8 gigs of ram... actually if you get 64 bit vista, not a bad idea lol. go for it
October 2, 2008 2:42:38 AM

So basically...

That 1.5TB might be SLOW that's the problem... and Get a Raid setup and what in the world is a "velociraptor"? also get premium ... is there something HIGHER then that?

and video cards I'm looking at the 9800 GTX 's ... better then GTX 280 or what?
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October 2, 2008 3:05:19 AM

69ers said:
So basically...

That 1.5TB might be SLOW that's the problem... and Get a Raid setup and what in the world is a "velociraptor"? also get premium ... is there something HIGHER then that?

and video cards I'm looking at the 9800 GTX 's ... better then GTX 280 or what?



velociraptor is the name of a HArd drive by Western Digital, but they are usually like 300 GB. If u want max memory then just get a 1 TB HDD r something.
And if ur spending 2-3K, then a 9800 GTX is NOTHING! definetly go with a GTX 280, maybe 2 if u have the board. and honestly, ur not very specific. U said Quad core, and that can range from $200 to $1500.
October 2, 2008 3:07:54 AM

falconzfan007 said:
velociraptor is the name of a HArd drive by Western Digital, but they are usually like 300 GB. If u want max memory then just get a 1 TB HDD r something.
And if ur spending 2-3K, then a 9800 GTX is NOTHING! definetly go with a GTX 280, maybe 2 if u have the board. and honestly, ur not very specific. U said Quad core, and that can range from $200 to $1500.



Ew...300 gigs? nahh I need 500 gigs. and 9800 GTX IS NOTHING? OH DEAR GOD. is the 280 THAT much better? and the BEST processor money can buy right now currently =DD

Also i just need a "quick look" about what i should have overall in my system cuz i got that much and i think i can get high performance parts for it so yeah =DD
October 2, 2008 3:26:48 PM

The Velociraptor is where you put your OS. It's fast. You put your games or whatever on the 1Tb drive.

If you're going to spend 2K, get an ATI 4870, or Nvidia GTX280.
Or 2 of them.
That will dictate your motherboard choice (SLI or CF).

How far do you want to go with your processor. Most games are not optimized for >2 cores. But maybe in the future they will be.
So maybe an E8600 or a Q9xxx?
October 2, 2008 9:35:10 PM

Maybe the more expensive one and they aren't ready? wtf?

Like I'm running crysis / oblivion / gears so forth ...
October 2, 2008 10:35:52 PM

MOBO - x48 chipset which will allow for full x16 in xfire.
ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131284

CPU - there are faster cpu's but this one can be OC'd comfortably to 3.5ghz
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115041

Heatsink -
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003
and
XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233019

GPU -
SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - DDR2 800 @ 1.8v. anything else is overkill with little to no advantage. 2 kits for 8 gb
mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820146731

HDD #1 - pure speed. use for OS and games or frequently used apps that are resource hogs. OS = 10-20GB, Games = 50-100gb if you load 3+, most used apps = 20gb. High end you will have used 140gb of the 300gb available. + you have 1TB for every day stuff and another 1TB for backup. or you can use the whole 2TB for additional storage but I would lose my mind if I have over 1TB of data that was lost because I didn't back it up.
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136260

HDD #2&3 - storage and backup
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU- room if you ever decide to xfire or jump up in the next generation of cards.
CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139007

CD/DVD Burner - ummm, I just picked 1 with a high rating get 2
LG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner w/ SecurDisc Tech - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827136149

Case - its big and has good airflow
Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS -
Microsoft Windows Vistahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116488

Monitor - Acer P243WAid Black-Silver 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP Support 400 cd/m2 3000:1 ACM - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



I didn't include a keyboard or mouse. Total price before mail-in-rebates and shipping = $2906. I did not use DDR3 because it is overpriced and there is little to no performance gain.
Last thing, with your budget I would wait 1-2 months and get the new i7 cpu's.
October 2, 2008 11:26:38 PM

I think i would go with 8 gigs DDR2 but otherwise...and these i7's...

Motherboard: ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel
CPU: Which is the most expensive? And noo overclocking for me EVER.
Heatsink:XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket
GPU : SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported

my friend told me NOT to get that but should i go for the "NVIDIA GTX280?"

HDD:Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power

Microsoft Windows Vista Premium
Monitor cer P243WAid Black-Silver 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP Support 400 cd/m2 3000:1 ACM

So guys think i should go with this overall?



October 3, 2008 2:50:15 AM

the nvidia gtx280 can't even compete with the 4870x2. and 2gb or ram on that card? that'll help ALOT with the resolution on the 24" monitor. seriously, the fact that you could spend 2k on it gives you ALOT of options to confuse urself with though.
October 3, 2008 3:05:40 AM

WAIT IT CAN'T EVEN COMPETE? Omgz...seriously...my god. so should i just wait for the i7's or what?
October 3, 2008 2:23:26 PM

i7 pros & cons of waiting

pros - next gen technology, as close to "future proof" as you can get, x58 chipset supports sli and crossfire, initial tests showed a 29% improvement over comparable current cpu's.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-nehalem-core,585...

cons - next gen technology, driver issues etc., only supports ddr3, 2.93 ghz chip = $562 retail which means it will initially sell for $650-$700

If I were making the decision I would build a midrange ($2k or less) system with the idea that upgrades over the next 2-3 years would be for GPU and maybe memory. This is just a guess at this point but I doubt you would see any performance increases in a $3k i7 system over a $2k quad core system for at least another year. Why? ddr3 is still very expensive, the x58 chipset will definately fall into the high end ($300+) and the midrange i7 chip will sell for $600+ for the foreseeable future. Realistically you would be looking at $1500 for the cpu, MOBO and RAM.
October 3, 2008 7:08:04 PM

really? then what you think i should go with overall I'll stick with the 8gig DDR2 and so forth and the video card but whatelse?
October 3, 2008 7:32:49 PM

69ers said:
So basically...

That 1.5TB might be SLOW that's the problem... and Get a Raid setup and what in the world is a "velociraptor"? also get premium ... is there something HIGHER then that?

and video cards I'm looking at the 9800 GTX 's ... better then GTX 280 or what?


did you read the toms hardware review of the 1.5 tb??? it got really good scores for speed. and since when has hard drive speed REALLY affected youre pc use. you should really look stuff up before you comment though, about youre velociraptor comment. its only 300 gigs because it is BLAZINGLY fast! you dont just get one you get it for youre OS and games. get a data drive for the rest.

edit: oh and just trust these guys, i can tell youre a little confused. these guys know what they are talking about. you don't need to wait for I7, its not like its gonna be instantly standard. alot of games aren't even threaded for modern quad core yet. trust me it would be fine to build a PC now
October 3, 2008 9:08:57 PM

mexpedip said:
MOBO - x48 chipset which will allow for full x16 in xfire.
ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131284

CPU - there are faster cpu's but this one can be OC'd comfortably to 3.5ghz
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115041

Heatsink -
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003
and
XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233019

GPU -
SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - DDR2 800 @ 1.8v. anything else is overkill with little to no advantage. 2 kits for 8 gb
mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820146731

HDD #1 - pure speed. use for OS and games or frequently used apps that are resource hogs. OS = 10-20GB, Games = 50-100gb if you load 3+, most used apps = 20gb. High end you will have used 140gb of the 300gb available. + you have 1TB for every day stuff and another 1TB for backup. or you can use the whole 2TB for additional storage but I would lose my mind if I have over 1TB of data that was lost because I didn't back it up.
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136260

HDD #2&3 - storage and backup
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU- room if you ever decide to xfire or jump up in the next generation of cards.
CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139007

CD/DVD Burner - ummm, I just picked 1 with a high rating get 2
LG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner w/ SecurDisc Tech - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827136149

Case - its big and has good airflow
Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS -
Microsoft Windows Vistahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116488

Monitor - Acer P243WAid Black-Silver 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP Support 400 cd/m2 3000:1 ACM - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



I didn't include a keyboard or mouse. Total price before mail-in-rebates and shipping = $2906. I did not use DDR3 because it is overpriced and there is little to no performance gain.
Last thing, with your budget I would wait 1-2 months and get the new i7 cpu's.



one thing just wondering should i get a different processor or? cuz i heard that there is a intel quad core Q9 something i forgettt but should i get the one above or the one that's so freaking expensive cuz i can wait for my NEXT paycheck lulz
October 3, 2008 9:15:23 PM

If ur not OCing, id recommend the Q9450 Q9550 (more expensive) or even go down to a dual core which atm give better gaming performance.

There are the Extreme Editions but they are a waste if u are not Overclocking. Like a complete waste
October 3, 2008 10:44:56 PM

wait are these Q9550 and 9450 are they the Quad core extreme? And thanks guys I'm going to be building soon w00tz
October 4, 2008 12:03:47 AM

no the Q9550 and 9450 are the new 45nm regular C2Q

The QX's are the extremes
October 4, 2008 12:18:07 AM

If you have that much money on your hands, you can definatly get a nice system, first off #1 I would reccommed getting a 64-bit operation system (xp or vista doesn't matter), 64bit OS is much much faster then 32-bit, i have first hand expirience, as for processor, i would get a core 2 extreme or a very cheap xeon processor, since it is godly powerful. Get a 1600mhz fsb motherboard with a proccesor that supports it, 8 gig ram is good, but make sure it has speed of at least 1333mhz and get server ram since its less faulty. Hardrives, either solid state drive, or a 15,000rpm drive. Video card, I would get SLI gtx 280 or something if you still have money on your hands, if not get some cheaper cards for sli like 8800ultra or any 8800 series. Hope that helps, use your bugdet wisely and dont make an unblanced system.
October 4, 2008 12:50:58 AM

^^ yes thats all true but @OP think seriously. Y spend $1000+ on an extreme cpu or $800 on 2 GTX 280s if in (lets say) six months, Nehalem will whoop the *** out of any Core 2 and also new gpus will come out to destroy any sli or cf setup. Save money is the best way to go imho
October 4, 2008 12:00:56 PM

so what u think i should do now buy a CHEAP processor then get the nahalem later?
October 4, 2008 1:40:22 PM

I think u should get a Good processor, like the Q9550 which should easily last a year+ especially if multithreading programs for quads come out.
Then Skip Nehalem and go straight to the next one.
IMO Nehalem is great, dont get me wrong. But atm no one needs a quad w/ 8 threads, nothing is going to use all that power and ur paying $500+ for that and then the crazy X58 mobos.
October 4, 2008 2:39:09 PM

Kayz So overall what do you think i should make anything else?
April 21, 2009 11:41:54 AM

I have 2 builds for you.
One is with the Core 2 Quad you asked, but not exactly with your specs.
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=12171228

The other one is an i7 build, which may be better i you plan to upgrade the computer in less than 3 years (and they perform better than the 2 quads...).
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=9235345

You don't need 8 gigs of RAM nor a Velociraptor. If you balance everything, you'll be alright. In my builds, you still need the OS, the keyboard, and the monitor, since I did those for myself and I have spare ones.
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