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October 2, 2008 12:13:55 AM

Hello people. Im looking to build my next computer based around gaming primarily. I was wonder if anyone could put out a lay out for me. Preferably AMD quad core. Also a compatable CPU for crossfire. Any layout would be a great help thank you !



-Evan

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October 2, 2008 12:40:00 AM

Motherboard - Asus M3a79 - AMD790FX nb, AMD SB750 $189
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - Phenom 9950 - 125w $185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM DDR2 1066 $75 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case - Coolermaster 690 $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU- Corsair 750w $110 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HD - Western Digital 640GB SATA - $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD burner - Liteon SATA retail $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU - HD4870 $250 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS Vista home premium 64 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a little over budget i think, you can shop around at www.buy.com for cheaper prices on the corsair power supply and cases. Check combo deals also. It shouldn't be hard to make it match your budget. Power supply and motherboard would support another HD4870 in crossfire for future improvement.
October 2, 2008 12:50:08 AM

Why vista? Ive heard alot of horror stories if you combine vista with games. O.o
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October 2, 2008 1:06:47 AM

I've got to admit Vista isn't my favorite OS, it's a resource hog. I'm still using XP on one of my gaming systems and not going to change it. That said Vista 64 is mature now, drivers available and if you want more that 3-3.5GB RAM you need a 64 bit OS. Talked to too many people that have had problems with XP64 recently. So i'd still recommend Vista home premium 64, but as always, your call.
October 2, 2008 3:21:39 AM

I'd go with most of what dirtmoutain suggested, but change the motherboard to a 790GX motherboard and getting something like a OCZ 600w modxstream, or a pcp&c 610w silencer.
October 2, 2008 3:29:52 AM

There's cheaper PSU's that offer reliable quality (albeit lower wattage) but you dont' need 750W anyways. A 790GX would be a better choice over the 790FX, it's cheaper and offer decent reliability.

Like what others say, Vista is mature (a resource hog nonetheless), just that games run slower in directx 10 than they do in directx 9.

In addition, depending on what resolution your monitor is, you might not even need a HD4870. If it's 1680*1050 or lower, a HD4850 will suffice.

RAM wise, I'd just go with a Mushkin DDR2-800 1.8v, but I've heard Phenom runs better with DDR2-1066 (I have yet to verify this myself).
October 2, 2008 4:19:15 AM

No big arguments with any suggestions, The reason i picked the 790FX over the GX is for the 16x/16x crossfire instead of the 8x/8x somewhat like the P45 vs. the X38/48 and for maximum overclocking. Same reason for the 4870 since this will primarily be a gaming rig
October 2, 2008 4:30:11 AM

I wonder if you any of you who are saying Vista is a resource hog have actually cared to notice that every time you run a game a lot of the resources are freed (My RAM usage drops to about half when I start a game compared to idle/regular work).

Honestly, people here that criticize Vista about it being slow with no bases are sad, if anything game performance isn't even lower any more on Vista, it was due to incomplete graphics drivers. You'd think a website full of people that are supposed to be enthusiasts will actually try to do their own research instead of spreading FUD and rumors.
October 2, 2008 5:13:26 AM

In this article (with pretty recent drivers, CAT 8.8) you can see how Vista using the DX9 rendering path actually scales better than XP on almost all tests when AA is used.

http://www.madshrimps.be/printart.php?articID=869

The reason for nvidia cards to have a longer place in the charts is because you have to remember that Nvidia's AA is of lesser quality than ATI's, so they're testing all the Nvidia AA modes in order to make it a fair apples vs apples comparison.

Probably not worth shelling out $100 for a new OS if you already own XP, but Vista in my eyes has proven itself time and time again over XP since Vista SP1 with Catalyst 8.7 and it's my new favorite OS (And I have available to me XP 32 and XP 64) .

October 2, 2008 5:24:01 AM

emp said:
I wonder if you any of you who are saying Vista is a resource hog have actually cared to notice that every time you run a game a lot of the resources are freed (My RAM usage drops to about half when I start a game compared to idle/regular work).

Honestly, people here that criticize Vista about it being slow with no bases are sad, if anything game performance isn't even lower any more on Vista, it was due to incomplete graphics drivers. You'd think a website full of people that are supposed to be enthusiasts will actually try to do their own research instead of spreading FUD and rumors.


Incomplete graphics drivers and directx 10 (better graphics, less performance). I did mention the directx 10 part.
I honestly have nothing against Vista (well, I did before SP1 was released).
October 2, 2008 5:29:21 AM

If you are sure Vista isn't a resource hog, try running Vista on 128MB of RAM. ;) 
October 2, 2008 8:08:56 AM

dirtmountain your basis for suggesting the 790FX over the GX has nearly no bearing. The user hasn't said if he'd be using crossfire or not, and besides, both boards are using pci-e 2.0 which has more than enough bandwidth. Can anyone even confirm if pci-e 1.x's bandwidth has been fully saturated? If he's using low-res, there is no need for the cf and the bandwidth advantages the 790FX has over the GX. And actually, if he's just going to be using 1 Video Card anyways, he'll reap the benefits of hybrid crossfire from through the GX.

The 2nd thing is the 790FX giving 'maximum overclocking' - though the board you selected is using the 750sb, so are the GXs which use ACC to slightly increase the Phenom overclocking. I'm sure there are such small differences in the maximum clocks you'd reach between the two platforms. Additionally, the price-premium between each of the boards seems completely unjustified to the OP's needs because of the things I just explained.

Also, supposed photos of MS's calendars were leaked, and Windows 7 is expected to launch around summer of next year. Dropping $100 on a new copy of Vista seems like a difficult choice if the rumor is true.
October 2, 2008 2:05:35 PM

The OP did mention crossfire, i took his "CPU" as a typo for GPU since he had already mentioned a processor preference. The crossfire chart shows the 4850 taking a small, but noticeable hit from 8x/8x crossfire, since i've seen no similar chart for crossfiring a 4870 i'm just assuming it's going to be larger. As for dropping $100 on an operating system since Windows7 may be out in a year or so, what OS would you recommend he buy to run his system in the interim?
October 2, 2008 3:09:01 PM

I agree with dirtmountain though, there is a performance hit if you use HD 4850 or above in crossfire, there's no point denying it. I'll provide with a similar Intel platform in case he wants it:

DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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