Q6600 to E8500 question

[drkailinium]

I have a Q6600 and was considering overclocking but after reading about it, it seams easier to just upgrade as i am also running sli (with a 680i which has no quad overclocking so i would have to get a new mobo) but i want to know how much of a performance increase would i get if i moved to a E8500 or 600. I think my CPU is my bottle neck as i have 4GB RAM 2x8800 GTS 512MB. I also think my 680i is a fairly good overclocker for dual cores. What would the performance increase be?

 

[jsc]

You should be able to OC a Q6600 on a 680i motherboard. It's the Yorkie quad cores that are not supposed to work.

 

[drkailinium]

You should be able to OC a Q6600 on a 680i motherboard. It's the Yorkie quad cores that are not supposed to work.

cant OC at all they are just not good quad overclockers but especially bad on the yorkies

 

[chookman]

Your 680i should overclock the Q6600 fine, its the 45nm quads that it has trouble with (so ive heard)... If you have a Q6600 there is no reason to go to a e8xxx anything. Overclock and be happy...

What resolution are you running?

 

[drkailinium]

well it doesnt and thats with a core temp of 20degrees and a antec extreme cooler

 

[drkailinium]

anyhow back on topic

 

[spathotan]

Sounds like your just trying to find an excuse to ditch that Q6600.

The 680i can overclock a Q6600 just fine, it will hit 3.2ghz at the very least with acceptable voltage on that board. And you say coretemp says the chip runs at 20c, thats also nothing to complain about, thats extremely low.

 

[drkailinium]

Sounds like your just trying to find an excuse to ditch that Q6600.

The 680i can overclock a Q6600 just fine, it will hit 3.2ghz at the very least with acceptable voltage on that board. And you say coretemp says the chip runs at 20c, thats also nothing to complain about, thats extremely low.

i know thats low that was my point the board simply refuses to oc at any voltage ranging from 1.3-1.7

 

[jitpublisher]

Are you going about your overclock in the correct way?
Are you keeping your memory speed below or at it's rated speed? That is the first thing that will kill your overclock, overclocking your memory.
Your quad, on your board, should be able to 3.0ghz without any problem with only a simple change to the FSB speed. (changing your memory multiplier to keep your memory running at it's rated speed first)

 

[drkailinium]

when i overclock i make sure my memory is unlinked from FSB

 

[evilshuriken]

If you do end up upgrading, would you be interested in selling your Q6600?
I'm looking for one, for a ray tracing build. So it would be great if I can get it used.

 

[drkailinium]

If you do end up upgrading, would you be interested in selling your Q6600?
I'm looking for one, for a ray tracing build. So it would be great if I can get it used.

yes sure really hate upgrading hardware and just ignoring the old parts when there worth somthing. but first of all i really want to know what king oof performance increase i would experience

 

[AwsmGy]

Just curious, but exactly what are you doing to hit your bottle neck that requires an upgrade?

 

[evilshuriken]

Performance increase will depend on what you're currently doing.

What games are you playing?
What resolution?

It is possible that your bottleneck in most of your games is on your GPU even with your SLI setup if you play your games at a fairly high resolution.

Do you do any media encoding or rendering?
Do you use any multi-threaded applications that take advantage of all four cores on your quad?

If there is, you will see a decrease in performance moving to a dual-core, even after overclocking.

 

[topman]

Hi dude i have a e8500 that runs at 3.8 GHZ i will do a swop with your q6600 if you want and i am in the UK just let me no kk all gd. email me at j.lancett@ntlworld.com

 

[drkailinium]

the only demanding things that i use it for are games and at 1280x1024 and at higest settings so with my cards i should think cpu is bottle necking as them in sli is similar/better to a 9800gx2 or 280 gtx

 

[spathotan]

Wait...youre using TWO 8800GTS's at 1280 x 1024? SLi/Crossfire dosent even show any benefits until 1680 x 1050......

 

[aznguy0028]

i would keep your quad if i were you and get another mobo. with the money you're gonna spend on the E8500/600, you could easily get a great mobo, 780i if you wanted to.

i don't know anyone who has a quad and then switched to a dual, but it's your choice. I would just get a new mobo, OC the Q6600 to around 3.3ghz, and call it a day.

 

[chookman]

the only demanding things that i use it for are games and at 1280x1024 and at higest settings so with my cards i should think cpu is bottle necking as them in sli is similar/better to a 9800gx2 or 280 gtx

Go and buy yourself a new LCD screen... 24" preferably.


Seems you didnt do much research buying your rig... not only is SLI a waste of money at that res in alot of benchmarks it will actually give you lower scores.

 

[drkailinium]

so what i actually will get a performance increase if i move to large screen resolutions?

 

[Mousemonkey]

Something like that, try turning on the sli indicators via the NV control panel and then run a game like COD 4 or 5 @ 1280x1024 and then @ 1680 x1050 to see the difference.

 

[drkailinium]

but to trying and find an answer to my question would get decent performance boost moving from Q6600 to a E8500? i mean most games rely more on clock speed rather than number of cores (dual to quad comparison single cores not included as the nuimber of cores does have some effect) in games such as crysis a 3.2 GHz core 2 duo will out perform a 2.8 GHz core 2 extreme which is twice the price and i know the E8500 or 600 to be one of the best processors for games (just under QX9750 on benchmarks) but are my gfx bottlenecking me? when i ask most people they blaim cpu as a bottle neck but is this true i dont always trust my friends tech advice.

 

[spathotan]

At stock speeds yes. But like somebody else already susgested, youre better off getting a new motherboard since you think thats the problem and overclocking the Q6600 to 3.2-3.6ghz. Or take the risk of your blame and buy a E8500 and watch it not OC either.

Still dont believe you cant OC that Q6600 on your 680i.

 

[drkailinium]

but the issue for my foxconn 680i is widely known as its poor quad overclocking (which was unkown to me before i bought it) but it is a good dual core overclocker one this is though if my motherboard is compatible with 1066 and 1333 FSB speeds does that mean i can overclock my CPU's FSB to more than 1333MHz?

 

[spathotan]

Hmmm..ok. Well at this point its really a toss up. If you drop the quad and go for the dual youll at least get to sell that Q6600 for $100+ and recoup some loss. If you replace that mobo with one that can OC the quad then youre stuck with that 680i, nobody wants those boards.