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October 30, 2008 8:13:36 PM

My dad at age 65 has turned into a gamer...it's truly funny. Anyway, I just built him a sweet system but the 3870 card I installed is defective and he wants to upgrade. I am looking at an ASUS 3870 X2 or an ASUS 4850. Which one would you guys suggest?

The mobo is a P5Q PRO P45 running XP pro.

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October 30, 2008 8:23:28 PM

I believe the 4850 is the better card. Might want to find some benchmarks, as the x2 might scale enough in a few games that he might play.
October 30, 2008 8:24:01 PM

Whatever one is cheaper, but only if you have enough PSU (3870x2 will eat power).

The 3870x2 is faster than the 4850 in crossfire games, 4850 is faster in non-crossfire games and anything with AA. Your pick.

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October 30, 2008 8:26:35 PM

The psu is a Raidmax 730. So there's plenty of power...right now he's loving COD2.
October 30, 2008 8:36:19 PM

yikes raidmax?...its not always about power chansman, i've heard some terrible stories of raidmax psu's... but i guess it'll work fine

i got a 4850, not dissappointed with it, and 3870x2, like all dual gpu cards, has scaling inconsistencies, so in games that aren't designed for crossfire will work like fart

and 4850 is newer, drivers coming out now are directly improving 4850, where as they do nothing for the 3870x2
October 30, 2008 8:47:16 PM

They are both matched, except the 1 is dual GPu and isn't, so then the 4850 is your better choice. Newer tech, and over all less of a hassle. Also Crossfire scales better than Quad Crossfire, incase you wanted to add a second card.


There's another thread here thats similar:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/continuation-33-208-6...

Even in Crossfire loving games like COD4 the 4850 right on par with the 3870 X2


October 30, 2008 8:50:26 PM

Scaling is fine, nothing wrong with x2 cards or cf/sli setups. 3870x2 significantly outperform 4850. Given similar prices, plus single pcie slot motherboard, 3870x2 is the way to go. The key is to look at a variety of games on a variety of settings and take an average performance. Single game is meaningless, as it may just happen to run better on one or the other.

Here's overall average performance.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/23.html
October 30, 2008 8:51:20 PM

Thanks, I was leaning towards the 4850...so that's what it'll be.
October 30, 2008 8:58:03 PM

dagger said:
Scaling is fine, nothing wrong with x2 cards or cf/sli setups. 3870x2 significantly outperform 4850. Given similar prices, plus single pcie slot motherboard, 3870x2 is the way to go. The key is to look at a variety of games on a variety of settings and take an average performance. Single game is meaningless, as it may just happen to run better on one or the other.

Here's overall average performance.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/23.html



Its only 13% over the 4850 in general, yet you have to deal with the dual GPU problems that plague sli/Crossfire systems in cases:)  I would rather have a constant 100% then a sometimes 50%, thats why I was quick to jump for the 280 GTX trade.

don't forget that that if he wants to switch quad sli will put more problems on the table then just regular sli, and I went threw both:)  If the 280 GTX was the exact same price as the 9800 GX2, no1 would buy the GX2, A) its old tech B) you have to rely on driver updates to receive alot more potential C) heat plagues your system more.

Comon dagger!!!! you kno better, I agree with the 9800 GX2 over the 280 GTX and 4870, 260 but if the 280 was the same price, you kno it wouldn't be the same, since these cards perform the same, and cost the same....well you know the rest. :hello: 
October 30, 2008 9:06:13 PM

L1qu1d said:
Its only 13% over the 4850 in general, yet you have to deal with the dual GPU problems that plague sli/Crossfire systems in cases:)  I would rather have a constant 100% then a sometimes 50%, thats why I was quick to jump for the 280 GTX trade.

don't forget that that if he wants to switch quad sli will put more problems on the table then just regular sli, and I went threw both:)  If the 280 GTX was the exact same price as the 9800 GX2, no1 would buy the GX2, A) its old tech B) you have to rely on driver updates to receive alot more potential C) heat plagues your system more.

Comon dagger!!!! you kno better, I agree with the 9800 GX2 over the 280 GTX and 4870, 260 but if the 280 was the same price, you kno it wouldn't be the same, since these cards perform the same, and cost the same....well you know the rest. :hello: 


$165 ar, free game, free shipping, dual slot aftermarket cooler with 2 fans, and supports 4 DVI for 4 monitors at the same time. Not a bad deal no matter how you look at it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
October 30, 2008 9:11:15 PM

2 fans because of 2 GPUs, cancel out, dual slot because of 2 GPUs (4850 has 1 GPu running @ a lower volt)

free game means, free shipping is def not a reason, and 4 monitors....honestly do you think this is the case??? lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

139.99 AFTER MIR, this covers the shipping:) 
October 30, 2008 11:35:40 PM

Thanks for the help guys. With my dad easier is better as he's kind of like Dennis the Menace with a computer...lol
November 1, 2008 7:40:45 AM

L1qu1d said:
Oh yes this 1 2...for better cooling:)  :bounce: 

This one is 139.99 After MIR, and free shipping:)  Ding ding we have a winner:D  :hello: 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I actually just bought that two days ago. It's a pretty big improvement over my 3850, but my PSU is barely keeping up with it (Thermaltake TR2 430w @18amps). I knew that it was going to be a problem, but since my Themraltake Purepower 500w died, that's all I had. Now I either have to live with it and get the 4GB of ram that I wanted, or shell out the $50 towards a 500w Earthwatts.
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