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October 4, 2008 9:27:38 PM

This is my first time building a computer and I'm at a budget of around $1300 with shipping included and excluding calculated rebates. I'd like to know if the parts I've listed are all compatible with each other (i.e. PSU, motherboard, case, RAM, etc.) and if there are any other ways to improve the build while maintaining a similar budget. All my parts are with free shipping so free shipping is preferred. Thanks.

Here's the rig:

Processor: Intel Q6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Mushkin 2 x 2GBs DDR2800 PC26400 @ 5-4-4-12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card: Sapphire ATI HD 4850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: Asus P5Q Pro P45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Rosewill Conqueror WSL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Corsair 650 Watt SLI/Crossfire Ready
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD: WD Caviar Black 750 GB 32 MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor: Samsung 2253 Black 22"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard: Logitech G11
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drives: 2 x LG Blacks
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1260
Total w/ Rebates: $1160

Additional Info: I already have mouse and speakers. I'm probably only going to mildly overclock the Q6600 by around 300 mhz to maintain reliability.

More about : build 1300

October 4, 2008 10:01:16 PM

why 2 optical drives?

look for combo deals.

don't forget an OS.
October 4, 2008 10:04:53 PM

What are you gonna use that Comp For. I recommend you get a E8400 or E8500 instead of that Q6600.
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October 4, 2008 10:18:45 PM

I already have a Vista Ultimate and a Windows XP Pro CD, forgot to mention that sorry.

I prefer having two cd drives in case one ever breaks or just for convenience when installing with multiple cds.

I'm going to be using it for general gaming (i.e.CSS, COD4, and Diablo 3 and SC2 in the future). I prefer quad core since future games and programs will take advantage of multiple cores better but if there's a significant performance increase over a higher clocked wolfdale then I could consider that.

So are all of the parts compatible?
October 4, 2008 10:24:30 PM

you can actually test your luck and see if you can get a e0 stepping q9550, runs much cooler, and OC's way better then the c1 stepping... will step on the g0 q6600, no pun intended

a q9650 is a guaranteed E0 stepping, but also costs about $250 more -_-
October 4, 2008 10:26:20 PM

o and yes everything looks good. don't be so sure about the quad core doing better in future apps... things might change like crazy -_- who knows, IT MIGHT PERFORM WORSE D=

crap srry for the double post, thought i was editing
October 5, 2008 2:02:09 AM

Dude,
You got a couple problems here.

You said this was a gaming box. Quad doesn't do bumpkus for games and you will probably build another box or two till it does. look at the CPU comparisons on this site. Quad don't get you much except a higher electric bill unless you are doing non linear video editing.

Get the best Core2 that you can afford

You don't need 2 optical drives, they don't break.

Take the money you saved from not buying the quad and not buying an optical drive and put it in you Video card or display if you are a Gamer.

You need to look over the CPU charts on this site CAREFULLY, look at the appz you will be using. If you waste your bux on a Quad, you will elevate yourself to TARD status.
October 5, 2008 2:07:01 AM

It depends on the game somewhat. Dual core CPU's dominate in the Crysis benchmarks, whereas quadcores have a distinct advantage in Supcom. From what it sounds like though, I think a dual core would suite your needs better. Plus if you spent the money you saved on a graphics card that will make a greater difference per dollar.
October 5, 2008 2:10:27 AM

if you want to "set it and forget it"
I think you'd be better off with a dual core and a 1gig 4870.
the extra memory will come in handy sooner than the extra cores.

there are some games that can use them, and soon enough there will be more, but graphics are more important to a gaming machine than a CPU.

there is also the fact the the q6600 doesn't have all the instruction sets of the newer chips and it draws more power (these last 2 could be overcome with a newer quad). If I were to build a new system now, it would be a dual core, or a newer quad.

ps. if you are stuck on a cheap quad, consider an AMD. They are finaly up to Q6600 performance, and you will be able to upgrade to a better CPU in the future. with Intel, the next upgrade will require new mobo and probably new memory.
October 5, 2008 2:32:29 AM

les_garten said:
Dude,
You got a couple problems here.

You said this was a gaming box. Quad doesn't do bumpkus for games and you will probably build another box or two till it does. look at the CPU comparisons on this site. Quad don't get you much except a higher electric bill unless you are doing non linear video editing.

Get the best Core2 that you can afford

You don't need 2 optical drives, they don't break.

Take the money you saved from not buying the quad and not buying an optical drive and put it in you Video card or display if you are a Gamer.

You need to look over the CPU charts on this site CAREFULLY, look at the appz you will be using. If you waste your bux on a Quad, you will elevate yourself to TARD status.


Huh? Difference between an E8400 and a Q6600 is 20 dollars.
Your idea is gonna elevate you to TARD status when Direct-X 11 comes out.

@Groo : He could just later update to a 45nm Penryn which still outdoes the AMD Phenoms.
In terms of longevity,you still want to go to atleast an HD 4870.

As for the monitor,I'd go for the Acer 22 inch widescreen.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the DDR2,it sounds a little bit like bupkiss that it's those timings...not for stability terms,but at that voltage.

October 5, 2008 2:33:00 AM

Go for the e8500 and p5Q Pro combo - you save $35

You sound like you are looking at almost the same thing I wanted my rig for. Take a look at what I bought 3 weeks ago. I love it! Wish they would have had the e8500 deal for me, only had it on the e8400, although don't know if $20 is worth it...

Case: $100 - Antechttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antec 900 (ended up coming with 7 case fans!)
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=202997579&loc...

CPU: $135 - E8400 ($35 combo deal with mobo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: $120 - P5Q Pro with $20 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: $245 - VisionTek 4870 with $25 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: $80 - WD 640gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: $58 - 4gb Corsaircorsair XMS2 DDR2 800 with $35 rebate (was $20 rebate when I bought!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: $84 - Corsair 750W with $20 rebate
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-750w-atx-12v-power-s...

CPU Cooler: $49 - Xigmatek S1283 & Bracket & Compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Buner: $26 - Samsung Lightscribehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LightScribe x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor: $200 - Acer 22"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total is $1140 with shipping ($50 less than I paid 3 weeks ago)

October 5, 2008 3:03:14 AM

reply to jaragon13's coments
I've picked up 2x 22" acers in the last year or 2, no dead or stuck pixels, both look great. The second one I got as a freebie with a $325 color laser printer, and sold to my mother-in-law, who was looking to buy an LCD monitor. I got a great printer for more than half off, she got a deal on a great screen. (like I said, look for combo deals)

if its not worth it to him to buy a Penryn now, it wont be worth it to upgrade down the road.
I picked up a P4 2.6HyperThread back in the s478 days (for about $200) and figured I'd upgrade to a 3.2ee (then about $1000), or whatever they came out with next when the price came down. they never did come down to the point were it was worth it, and what was next was a couple of ultra rare 3.4EEs and socket 775. I think they still go for more than $100 (thats a single core 32 bit P4). the Peryn will always be the top dog in for intel 775s, so I expect them to remain expensive, even long after the next socket has completely blown it out of the water.
in short, If you buy and decent performing Intel now, it will never be worth while to upgrade the CPU.
If you buy AMD, the next 2-4 generations of CPUs are suposed to be compatible with todays newest motherboards. hopfully that is the case, and hopefully AMD can pull thier head out of thier ass to get chips better than what is already and old Intel design.

please don't take this as a suggestion to hold off for the new intel chips. There is always something better just around the corner. If you waite for it, you will never have a computer. (but you will save lots of money)
October 5, 2008 3:17:50 AM

+1 ^

I am living proof that waiting gets you the better deal. I had people two years ago telling me to get my amd single core cuz dual core won't be fully utilized by most apps. :D  i waited about 6 months and got the core 2 duo when it first released. I'm still pleased with my rig even two years later! It still performs very well for me. I do think that if i had stuck with an amd cpu that I would be bashing my head in right now.

Plus, the intel system was around the same price as my amd system at the time.

Waiting for teh newer tech isn't a bad idea.
October 5, 2008 3:38:21 AM

no doubt, if he waits 6 months, he'll get something better
(in this case the new Intels), if he waits another 6 months, there is something better again (DX11). it never ends...

if there is something truely impressive JUST around the corner, waiting might be worth it if you have a functional machine now. but another way of doing things is to build a system around the idea of a quick upgrade. like buying a $50 or less CPU (such as my AM2 semperon 2800+, upgraded to a bribane dual core when they came out), or the graphics cards with the 90 day upgrade, or whatever it is.
!