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December 29, 2008 10:40:51 AM

hi,i hope you ca help me.i upgradet my pc from a nforce 405 motherboard to a 630i and de processor from amd single core 2.4 gh to pentium e5200 dual core.the problem is it seems that performance dropted.it takes longer to install win ,longer to load win ....and i observed that after installin windows,installing sp3 ..all drivers,antivirus ...the temp of system is more than 40 celcius degrees and the processor is still at room temp....20 degrees celcius . thanks
December 29, 2008 11:00:59 AM

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7935.html

Check it out,at the same speed most single cores make almost any multi core look weak,the multi really shines when they are o'clocked,,and,,you have one of the best...:) 
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December 29, 2008 11:02:30 AM

can you please list all your hardware?

EDIT, its in your config.

Try to uninstall the creative mixer(ctsysvol, i think) app. I am not sure about the Audigy one, but the Audigy2zs one was not multi core friendly at all and did slow other apps down. If that helps, i will give you a fix for it :) 
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December 29, 2008 11:06:38 AM

dokk2 said:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7935.html

Check it out,at the same speed most single cores make almost any multi core look weak,the multi really shines when they are o'clocked,,and,,you have one of the best...:) 



I hate to be negative here, but this is baloney.
To the OP, you must have something wrong with your configuration.
As nukemaser requested, full list of all your hardware, and settings?
December 29, 2008 11:07:41 AM

Does your motherboard POST identify the CPU correctly? Try CPU-Z, your FSB should be 800 and CPU speed 2.5GHz. How much RAM do you have?

Mike
December 29, 2008 3:33:05 PM

hey ,i have gigabyte ga-73pvm-s2h motherboard,pentium e5200,3gb ram,250gb sata disk,msi geforce 7900 gto video,onboard audio(removed audigy)...i run xp x32 ....i reinstalled win 2 times...and it's the same
December 29, 2008 3:34:06 PM

the motherboard recognizes cpu corectly
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December 29, 2008 3:49:28 PM

ALL Dual-Core CPU's are MUCH MUCH better than any Single-Core CPU rated at the same speed, period!
December 29, 2008 3:58:33 PM

Have you re-installed Windows? Sometimes when switching from a single to dual / quad core processor Windows needs to be re-installed to switch it over from uni to multi processor drivers.
December 29, 2008 4:08:05 PM

yes i did twice...i hat to anyway because i changet my motherboard aswell
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December 29, 2008 4:11:35 PM

Did you format the Hard Drive when you re-installed? If you didn't then often you just make windows run worse. I'm also assuming that you hare 3 1GB sticks of RAM so they are running in single channel other than dual channel, which is only a small performance drop but still something to be noted. I also recommend disabling the onboard video since you're using a dedicated GPU.
December 29, 2008 4:12:52 PM

It's probably a RAM problem. You have a setup of 2X1 gig + an additional 1 gig floating? or possibly even 2 X 512 (even worse).

Try the 2X1 gigs by themselves and make sure they are running in dual channel and see if it fixes your problem, I'm guessing it will. But if it doesn't, test each stick seperately, 1 at a time using Memtest86.

I had a similiar problem with a build about 2 years ago and it turned out one of the memory channels on the motherboard was bad, switched them over to channel 1 from 0, and the comp instantly responded.
December 29, 2008 4:20:15 PM

Double check all of the connections inside the case, reseat the memory and IO cards, and specifically the cables attached to the disks....We've all seen crappy connections do weird stuff, might as well exclude that right away.

Double check your drivers to be sure they're correct and best version.
December 29, 2008 4:23:21 PM

i formated the drive,i disabled the onboard video...i'm not that novice .removed the 2 gb memory yesterday and addet another 1 gb one so now i have 2 gb 1+1 .....how to i use this memtest86?anyway ...i had the same ram configuration before buyng the new mobo and cpu...still i should have seen some chance in performance ...instead it's worse
December 29, 2008 4:24:29 PM

ooh,and i don't know if this motherboard suports dual-chanel ram...i think it only works single
December 29, 2008 5:02:14 PM

how do i reset the memory and io?
December 31, 2008 12:56:23 PM

Run HDTune and post your results. Did you ever run any benchmarks on your old system? Is Task Manager showing two CPU use graphs? What does CPU-Z say about CPU speed, FSB and memory speed?

Mike.
December 31, 2008 4:00:00 PM

hd tune:15.8 mb/sec-minimum,85.5 max,avarge 65.4;access time 14.3ms;burst rate 179.2 mb/sec;cpu usage 2.7%....i don't know what benchmarks are;graphs?cpu-z says :core speed 2500 mhz;multiplayer x12.5;bus speed 200 mhz;rated fsb 800 mhz...easy tune 6 sayd fsb 200....the temp is weird ..in bios says that system 50 celcius degrees and cpu never passes 30 ...most of time is 22,25 degrees celcius...thank you for helping...it seemed that the thread is over ...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
December 31, 2008 4:04:02 PM

the memory stats in cpu-z...single chanell;400mhz..(on memory stick says 800);fsb:D ram 1:2
December 31, 2008 10:48:26 PM

dokk2 said:
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7935.html

Check it out,at the same speed most single cores make almost any multi core look weak,the multi really shines when they are o'clocked,,and,,you have one of the best...:) 


actually i highly disagree, i went from a 2.4ghz celeron to a pentium dual core 1.8 ghz and there was a HUGE difference. There was a difference specially in the cpu side. For example on the 2.4ghz, rise of nation was like a slide show when there was too much soldiers on the screen. On the pentium dual core, everything was playing perfect without fps lag. Also, on the celeron i had a nvidia geforce 6200 and on the dual core, a geforce 7050 intergrated so there wasn't a big difference in the graphic part.

and btw i know a p3 500mhz can run rise of nation pretty well when the pop is set to 50 but not when its set to 1000+.
January 2, 2009 6:43:28 AM

hd tune:15.8 mb/sec-minimum,85.5 max,avarge 65.4;access time 14.3ms;burst rate 179.2 mb/sec;cpu usage 2.7%....i don't know what benchmarks are;graphs?cpu-z says :core speed 2500 mhz;multiplayer x12.5;bus speed 200 mhz;rated fsb 800 mhz...easy tune 6 sayd fsb 200....the temp is weird ..in bios says that system 50 celcius degrees and cpu never passes 30 ...most of time is 22,25 degrees celcius...thank you for helping...it seemed that the thread is over ...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
January 2, 2009 9:15:53 AM

I think your memory is running too slow. In CPU-Z check the SPD tab, 200 is very slow for DDR2. Sandra has CPU benchmarks that compare with expected values. Your CPU may be waiting for data from memory. The memory tab shows FSB:D RAM ratio, best is 1:1. Strange temp readings in BIOS suggest you need BIOS upgrade to latest, or you have no airflow through your case if the 50C is correct. Have you tried Speedfan?

Mike.
January 2, 2009 10:30:19 AM

hey mike.thank's for help.cpu-z says in spd tab pc2-6400(400mhz).i don't understand with the fsb:D ram ratio...what should i do?the readings of temp are ok..when i start the pc after not using it for more time it shous the room temp .
January 2, 2009 12:23:54 PM

Your memory should be running at 400, not 200. If you go into BIOS, memory settings should be in AUTO, or you may have to set manually. The SPD tab also shows correct memory volts. Many motherboards default to 1.8V. Your CPU tab should show Core speed as 2500MHz, Bus speed 333 or 400 MHz and a lower Multiplier. fsb:D ram ratio is ratio between CPU fsb and dram speed. ideal is 1:1 or same speed. Does Speedfan report realisic temps? Install Sandra lite to read a lot of this info.

Mike.
January 2, 2009 2:37:52 PM

all this info is too much for me.what can i do ?
January 2, 2009 3:22:25 PM

change fsb in bios?
January 2, 2009 3:24:16 PM

Go into BIOS setup. If there is an option to load Optimised or Performance settins, use it. Otherwise, go into Memory timing and set it to 400 bus speed.

Mike.
January 2, 2009 3:44:58 PM

the bios is set to default,i only disabled cpu thermal monitor,eist function and cpu enhanced halt.i disabled the onboard audio.the rest are optimizet defaults.ito configure clock and frequency and memory i have in bios mb intelligent tweaker and all are set to auto.
January 2, 2009 3:46:09 PM

hey thank's mike
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January 2, 2009 4:08:04 PM

Why did you disable thermal monitor?
January 2, 2009 4:25:09 PM


why not ..if the sensor is bad than maybe my pc low performance is because the cpu is decreasing frequence and clock whithout having to.
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