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October 7, 2008 4:32:37 PM

After looking around on the forums I came up with this build. I would like to bring the cost down slightly so any suggestions would be great. Currently I play WoW (WotLK when it comes out) and will be adding a 22' LCD to this at some point.

Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model iHAS120-04 - OEM $21.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail Combo with the P5Q $274.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996587 - Retail $76.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS EAH4850 TOP/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail $179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD - OEM $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $813.93

If I could get this down to about $800 that would be great.
This will be my first build so if I made any mistakes take it easy on me:) 

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October 7, 2008 4:54:53 PM

Great build, some sensible cost cutting without hurting performance too much.
Get the combo deal for the E8400 and the Asus P5Q Pro, will save $20 over the E8500 combo deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Get an OEM DVD burner, just download the software from a good site, save $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
get a smaller, cheaper HD....eww save -$15
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Start out running the E8400 with stock cooling, add the cooler later and then OC. - $37
Go with this Mushkin RAM - $23
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

about - $115 without too much loss in performance

also there are student discounts available for the operating system, look into that if you're a student or know one.



October 7, 2008 4:56:35 PM

well if you plan on OCing you can drop to a cheaper processor and still achieve a pretty sick OC...besides that, everything else seems really solid
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October 7, 2008 5:06:52 PM

+1 for the E8400 and linked mushkin RAM.

The GA-EP45-DS3R would save you a little. The GA-EP45-DS3L would save even more if you don't need crossfire support.

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $126.99 -$20.00 MIR

or

GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $104.99 -$15.00 MIR

You can also go with this Sapphire GPU to save a little more $:

SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $159.99 -$20.00 MIR

I would stick with the WD 6400AAKS if at all possible.
October 7, 2008 5:06:57 PM

Yep...if you are looking to OC, you can get an E5200 or E7200 ($80 or $100) and save $80-100. Good suggestions earlier - I wouldn't change the HDD.

October 7, 2008 5:20:05 PM

Just hope he doesn't have any issues with the Sapphire video card....I just officially(just got paid) sold my old 2900 Pro to a friend who had issues with their RMA service while trying to replace his X1900GT. And they make you pay them on top of the slow turn around times(due to sending it to Taiwan for possible fixing).
October 7, 2008 5:21:55 PM

I agree that the Asus card is better. The OP was looking to save $, which the Sapphire card does.
October 7, 2008 5:33:22 PM

Well I was looking at 4850's on newegg, they have a Gigabyte for 169 with free shipping as well, all 3 have custom cooling solutions so then its all about dealing with RMA's and $10 between them(Sapp>+10>Gigabye>+10>Asus)
I'd rather spend the extra 10 over the sapphire and still save 10 and not have to deal with their RMA(god forbid you need to get a replacment at all)
October 7, 2008 5:39:24 PM

Thank you all, shortstuff and dirtmountain those were very good suggestions.
Now I just have to take back my POS HP that I bought on the 2nd and order everything.

I edited my first post to show the changes.
October 7, 2008 5:47:00 PM

good to see you avoided Sapphire....looks good, I'm partial to Mushkin. i have the silver version of your ram with 5-5-5-15 timings and have had 0 issues with it, they are also helpful with tightening timings or loosening them to get some extra speed on their forums
October 7, 2008 6:10:17 PM

That still looks like a good build. Nice work.
October 7, 2008 6:32:29 PM

Good build. A good place to cut from this budget would to replace the CPU with a Wolfdale Pentium E5200 and overclock it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Since it has a 12.5 multiplier you can overclock it pretty well without hitting insane FSB speeds. Running that CPU at the 1066 quad pumped bus would mean a core speed of around 3.3GHz. Of course, with overclocking your millage will vary. Just keep in mind that it has less cache than the E8400 and is essentially a low yield Wolfdale chip. You could also trim off a few bucks by going with a 500GB Hard Drive. Of course I'm more of the opinion that the more hard drive space the better :) .
October 7, 2008 6:40:35 PM

Good job! Your final build looks great.

Why would he downgrade to the E5200 from the E8400 when he's already at his target budget? This is a gaming build and games really like the extra cache of the E8x00 series.
October 7, 2008 8:00:41 PM

I dont understand the Newegg obsession, nearly every item i see there is higher priced then www.zipzoomfly.com. Take a look there, i looked at the proccesor and mobo and it was like 10 dollars cheaper for the same exact stuff
October 8, 2008 3:25:11 AM

Ive never had a problem with Sapphire cards...and I currently own a Gigabyte 4850 (but the one w/o the aftermarket cooler :'(  ) and I've been in love ever since...
October 8, 2008 5:23:31 AM

jeremy9174 makes a good point and that is to always shop around and look for better deals. In the case of the E8400 and the Asus motherboard though Newegg also takes $35 bucks off in a combo deal.
October 8, 2008 6:49:49 AM

Pretty good build for that budget.

Don't think you can do much better than that.
October 17, 2008 2:05:40 AM

ahslan said:
Ive never had a problem with Sapphire cards...and I currently own a Gigabyte 4850 (but the one w/o the aftermarket cooler :'(  ) and I've been in love ever since...


I'm not suggesting their cards are of lower quality at all. Sapphire like every other major ATI/AMD partner makes excellent cards......BUT their RMA process is what bothers me.

Take EVGA for example(yes i know they do not make ATI cards) Their RMA service takes about 2 weeks(Standard) If you purchase advanced RMA they cross-ship the card. Basically if you purchase the EAR within 30days of buying the card you get almost a 50% discount, so for about the price of Sapphire's RMA charge of $15 you get an overnight Cross-shipped RMA. vs how ever long it takes Sapphire to ship your card to Hong Kong to be fixed then ship it back to the US, then back to you. Thats why I advise against Sapphire or any company that has a similar RMA process.

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For any overseas return on RMA outside their normal warranty with their local supplier(read: Place of Purchase), the local RMA centre will apply a basic administration fee to cover the logistics return of the RMA items back and forth from Hong Kong
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