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I have been thinking about upgrading my system for sometime but with dollars being tight I am wondering whether or not I should go ahead with an upgrade or just wait and build build a new system sometime in the new year. Here are my current system specs and the upgrades I am considering.

GA-M57SLI - S4 ver 1.0
1 gig x 2 DDR2 800 - not sure of the make
Nvidia 8800gt 512
creative SB X-FI sond card
OCZ 600 watt Game X Stream PS
AMD 64 X2 4200

Upgrade the video card to either a nvida 280gtx 1meg or HD4870x2 with the intent of keeping it for a new system build sometime in the future. Upgrade the CPU to AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ dual core.

Thanks

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Really there isn't a game on the market you couldn't play on high settings with your rig except for crysis and mybe farcry 2. But even those two games should run on pretty good settings with that rig. I would wait till you can build a new rig entirely.

Reply to PsyKhiqZero
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You have a pretty well balanced system there.
If you upgrade the vga card, you will also need to upgrade the cpu to drive it properly.
Once you have to upgrade multiple components in concert, it is time to do a whole new build.

VGA cards are constantly getting better, with more performance for your dollar. I would not invest now on a card for the future. At least wait to see what the Nvidia 55nm parts look like.

If there is one upgrade that would probably be worth it today, is to go to 4gb.

Reply to geofelt

8800gt, very good card. can play everything excellent and crysis good enough. can play even upcoming games and also directx 11 games in the future, although at slower fps and no dx11 effects.
you have to wait, directx 11 cards will come out next year.

Reply to zodiacfml
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If you got the 4870x2 you might have to upgrade PS. Also, either of those gpu
s would be limited by the cpu so you wouldn't be getting the full benefit from them. I'd say if anything cpu, otherwise save up and go all out in when the next generation of cpu's and gpu's are out.

Reply to jaysins
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i say wait for next gen (on gpu's and cpu's) to come out...like others have said, your rig is well balanced...you could try to OC your cpu a tad just to see what kind of performance you can squeeze out of your rig...

and if running vista, then upgrade ram to 4gb...

------------------------------ AMD64 X2 6000 + Biostar Tseries 770 + 4gb DDR2 800 G.Skill + Thermaltake WingRS case + Raidmax 530w modular PSU + 200gig internal WD HD + 250gig external WD HD + 500gig external Simpletech HDD + Belkin Wireless G PCI receiver + Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD4850
Reply to Ahslan
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The CPU is probably one of the cheapest upgrades for you, and a 3-core Proc for $100 is a steal. Personally I'd wait on the next gen Quads at the beginning of next year(Vista 64 has issues with AMD Quads). Then that leaves you to save a bit for a better Vid later (recommend the 4850, or 4870). Also recommend more RAM (2x2GB DDR2 800 is around $70).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103254
$100 (AMD 8450 Tri-Core)

Reply to IH8U

Thanks for the quick responses. How much improvement will I get if I go with the inexpensive CPU upgrade now? My current CPU is going on ebay for around $40 so if I sell it I could move int a tri-core or higher speed dual core for around $60 bucks. Will 2 more gig of ram provide a performance boost as well?

Thanks,

Reply to stradoc100
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Which OS are you using XP, or Vista? both will see a slight performance gain from more RAM (Vista will see the most benifit). The new CPU with either higher speed, or 3-core will help too (depending on weather the MB can support Phenom)

P.S. Your MB cannot support Phenom (as it's only an AM2 board)
I'd recommend this one however: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103289
$77 (AM2 5400+ BE, unlocked multi)(I can get my old 5000+ BE to 3.1)

Reply to IH8U

I am running XP Professional - was waiting to switch to Visa with a new build. I was looking at the 3.0ghz 6000 Windsor AM2 socket for $92.

Reply to stradoc100

Like what most other posters mentioned, CPU is the best upgrade for you. I just checked your CPU support list and you can even get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103273 .

Your motherboard does support this CPU, but you might need to update your BIOS. I would double check with Gigabyte's tech support to make sure.

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Reply to johnyeah

stradoc100 wrote :

I am running XP Professional - was waiting to switch to Visa with a new build. I was looking at the 3.0ghz 6000 Windsor AM2 socket for $92.



That's a pretty solid CPU for it's performance if you want to keep the budget low (it's a great choice).

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Reply to johnyeah
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the 6000+ would also work, but as I mentioned that 5400+ is a black edition (and can be OC'ed higher than the 6000) it is also $15 cheaper (OEM, no HSF) so for a cheap HSF I'd say this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185125
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro $30 (you can get a very good OC out of this too)

Reply to IH8U

My suggestion: Wait.
If you really want to upgrade, get a new CPU, a 6000+ or 5600+ (non BE) would be my recommendation as it has the larger L2 cache (2x1MB vs 2x512KB).

Reply to skywalker9952

Like all the others, I say wait. I have a similarly aged intel setup (e4400 p965 chipset), but have the same problem - you will not get a performance boost that is significant for the money spent. Once you upgrade one part, you need more to take advantage of it. It's the cycle of cash, to quote the Lion King.

I'm glad logic prevailed in my head, I have a tendency to want to upgrade a lot, and I have finally realized that it is much better spent money if I wait to upgrade the whole platform at once.

Reply to festerovic

Thanks for all the advice. Festerovic I am like you and its hard when you get the itch to upgrade. I took the plunge and purchased a 6000+. I thought I was purchasing a non BE but when looking at the invoice I actually purchased the new 6000+ 3.1 with a 1MB cache. The damn things were priced the same on Newegg and I clicked on the wrong CPU. Is this CPU going to show a noticeable difference in speed from the 6000+ 3.0 with 2MB cache? I am guessing the reason the clock speed is slightly higher is to offset the lower cache.

Thanks

Reply to stradoc100

stradoc100 wrote :

Thanks for all the advice. Festerovic I am like you and its hard when you get the itch to upgrade. I took the plunge and purchased a 6000+. I thought I was purchasing a non BE but when looking at the invoice I actually purchased the new 6000+ 3.1 with a 1MB cache. The damn things were priced the same on Newegg and I clicked on the wrong CPU. Is this CPU going to show a noticeable difference in speed from the 6000+ 3.0 with 2MB cache? I am guessing the reason the clock speed is slightly higher is to offset the lower cache.

Thanks



Differences will probably be negligible if any. At stock I believe both CPU's run equally well. Differences might be how well either CPU overclocks (in the case of 3.0 ghz Athlons they don't overclock that well anyways).

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