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like to diagnose an issue concerning FPS in WOW. Currently when in an instance, or in Dalaran my fps drops to 4-12 fps, and if in a a 25 man or more raid or bg It gets so bad that i disconnect from the server al-together. Could anyone offer insight into where my issue is likely to be. thanks very much.

Gigabyte GA k8n-sli - mobo

AMD athlon 64x2 4400+ dual core

windows xp pro 64 bit

4sticks(1mb) patriot signature pc 3200 400mhz

xfx geforce 8800gt 512mb ddr3

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latest video drivers? saturated network connection?

Reply to 13thmonkey

I have updated the video drivers in just the last few days from xfx website. Will have to get back to you on the version.

Not sure what you mean by saturated network. There are three pc's connected to a router via cat5 cable, with a cable modem connection. Even with the other pc's off I have this same issue.

Reply to raifesdad

updated information. I have turned off prefetching and did install AMD dual core optimizer; neither seems to have helped.
In addition I have went down a couple notches on resolution, and turned settings down from 24x24 with 4 times multisampling to 16x16 with 1 and all settings otherwise to low with little to no increase in performance.

Reply to raifesdad

well, try the driver fromthe Nvidia website , they will be up to date for real, and you should be able to run wow pretty well with your 8800gt so there is deffinately something wrong

Reply to boop334

oh yeah and i dont really know anything about WOW stuff

Reply to boop334

I will try the nvidia driver from their website later this evening and come back with the results. thanks for the responses so far

Reply to raifesdad

to see if it is a problem with graphics card, turn all graphics options in the game down to their lowest settings and also the screen resolution as well (e.g. down to 800 x 600). If the frame rates don't improve then it is not a problem with the graphics.

It could be a problem with internet connection (either at your end or at blizzard's end) or it could be a problem with the server (i.e. the realm) itself. Try switching to a different realm to see if things improve.

It could be a problem with the processor, trying to crunch too much data at times when there is so much activity going on. Try overclocking processor (if that is an option) to see if things improve.

Reply to david_uk109

There was one point when a customer brought in his pc that was doing the very same thing. From the start though, I just completely reformatted windows and reinstalled WoW, and the most up to date drivers. It ran fine on our connection. But when he took it back to his place, he was getting very very low fps again. So I finally did a house call, and realized what the problem was. Even though he was on a 10meg cable connection, someone on his pipeline was using up litterally all of the bandwidth.

You see, the way most cable companies work with internet is a shared connection between contained areas. So for instance, you could have anywhere from 2 - 100 subscribers on your connection pipeline. People with a low subscriber count will have increadible connection speeds. But again, for instance, if say you a pipeline with even just 25 people on it, but 5 of those 25 are all running their torrents like they're going out of style, your connection speed and latency will blow very hard.

Reply to Curnel_D

Try seeing what the connection is like at different times of the day/night. See if things improve when logged on at some obscure hour e.g. 3am or even 5am.

Reply to david_uk109

Dalaran has a ton of people in a small area so no surprise your FPS is bad there. As for raids it could be a problem if you are using add-ons, disable all your add-ons. Trying running on plain vanilla WoW.

Reply to mighty442

Try some of the things mentioned in that post.

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Reply to Zenthar

thanks everyone for your replies. I updated the vidcard driver to the latest from nvidia.. tried wow with no addons and its same problem.
at this point I am going to try a fresh install of the game from scratch and see if that works as its the easiest thing to eliminate. I will then work on the notes from Zenthar's link and be back if none of those work.

again thanks so much

Reply to raifesdad

WTF is with all the WoW people crying in toms forums these days...

Reply to V3NOM

V3NOM wrote :

WTF is with all the WoW people crying in toms forums these days...


Reported.

Reply to david_uk109

oh no. tell me, do you play runescape?

Reply to V3NOM

V3nom, I've been agreeing with you more than I'd like lately. :P It's about time for the ancient WoW game to kick it.

Reply to Curnel_D

with the multitude of new quality MMO's recently released you would think they would give up their addiction. but no... defend it, cry, and report people for the hell of it

Reply to V3NOM

Seriously though, there are 12.5 million players of this game and you can expect there to be some spillover onto big, popular community-driven sites such as tomshardware.

Reply to david_uk109

12.5 million is an inflated number. You'll notice that we never hear info such as how many unique logins WoW has in a one month period.

Wow is an ugly slow game that plauges users with subpar immersive play, downright boring combat, bandwidth capping updates, and a bunch of blind players.

I just cant believe it's still alive.

Reply to Curnel_D

Funny thing is that someones opinion of an MMO game seems to have zero effect on troubleshooting hardware related questions. What is even more funny is that longtime posters on a hardware related community cant understand why someone with little experience in troubleshooting would come to this community to request help.... hmm I could be wrong but im thinking that having a hardware related question has little to do with the software being used other than as a point of reference for performance issues.

I am glad that not everyone in this community is as closed minded as the negative posters above concerning what you use your system for and some are instead interested in assisting someone in their questions when they ask for help.

The problem by the way was a bad stick of Ram.. thanks for the assistance and those that tried to help.

Reply to raifesdad

raifesdad wrote :

hmm I could be wrong but im thinking that having a hardware related question has little to do with the software being used other than as a point of reference for performance issues.

Unfortunately, the software can have a major impact, not just relative to other software, but also to itself. Many people seem to have performance issues each time a new patch comes out. Software got so complex it got impossible to test each possible combination of factors. For example, it could be that using a specific driver version for a sound card, combined with another specific version of video card driver can cause an issue on a specific CPU because of "undocumented" DirectX weird behavior ...

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Reply to Zenthar

V3NOM wrote :

with the multitude of new quality MMO's recently released you would think they would give up their addiction. but no... defend it, cry, and report people for the hell of it



You mean like Tabla Rasa and Hellgate:London right? Oops...

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Reply to B-Unit

Zenthar wrote :

Unfortunately, the software can have a major impact, not just relative to other software, but also to itself. Many people seem to have performance issues each time a new patch comes out. Software got so complex it got impossible to test each possible combination of factors. For example, it could be that using a specific driver version for a sound card, combined with another specific version of video card driver can cause an issue on a specific CPU because of "undocumented" DirectX weird behavior ...


but that does not excuse personal attacks against posters that come here in good faith requesting help, simply for their choice of game.

Reply to david_uk109

david_uk109 wrote :

but that does not excuse personal attacks against posters that come here in good faith requesting help, simply for their choice of game.

Indeed, it doesn't.

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Reply to Zenthar

and neither did i personally insult the op ^.^

btw B unit, i was referring to games like Age of Conan and Warhammer Online Age of Reckoning.

Reply to V3NOM

Heh...i imagine the issues are because WoW'ers still assume the original specs on the 4 year old first release still hold true for the xpac.
Aint the case, the graphics are much better (though before anyone says it, yes there are much better looking games), as is the scope of vision.
Additionally the central focal point of the community (the City of Dalaran) is a bloody nightmare to get through even with an amazing machine due to the sheer amount of toons populating it.
Ofc its just a case of tweaking a few options - draw distance, ground clutter, shadows in most cases.
I would agree WAR is a better game, AoC really isnt a patch on WoW though.

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