Athlon II x4 630

Vlad_2

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HELLO GUYS,

because I am not such an OVERCLOCKER, I hope to be one

I have overclocked my Athlon 630 till 3400 MHZ, if I clock more... the system reboots

i changed the FSB to ~240 and the VOLTAGE was set to automatic... how much i must increase the voltage to clock it more ?

also my RAM memories are KINGSTON @ 1333Mhz(4gb dual channel)

MOB:MSI FX790-GD70
CPU:AMD ATHLON II X4 630
GPU:GYGABITE ATI5850
RAM:KINGSTON 4GB-DUALCHANNEL @ 1333MHZ/HYPERX/CL7


thx...

PS : I HAD A POST BEFORE... you can totally change the VOLTAGE I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH
 

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When the Voltage is on automatic, typically the board will send too much volts to the CPU than is what is really needed, and produces far more heat than would when at the minimum stable solid state voltage values.

A rough guess is that you would need about 1.35-1.425v to stabilize at that clock value , assuming you have the rest of your system adjusted for the raised FSB. Take your highest stable clock, and work with finding a stable, non-auto voltage setting for it. Once you have that, you can start the See-Saw dance of raising the FSB/voltage for stability.

When overclocking a locked multiplier AMD CPU, You have to use the FSB. The problem is that raising the FSB also raises the NorthBridge, HT Link, and memory. Those multipliers need to be adjusted to prevent too high of a frequency in one of those areas causing crashes before you even hit the ceiling on your CPU.

That being said, your crashes may be from your memory being overclocked with the FSB and past its stable limits. Or your Northbirdge/HT Link needs a voltage bump to deal with it's higher frequency, or lowered multipliers to being back closer to stock FSB values. You haven't mentioned here what those values are at, and I won't go digging for another post to answer this one, so these things have to be considered.
 

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Yeah dude, you wanna turn off cool 'n quiet as well because that works against overclocking. I had my 630 up to 3.5 and I had my voltages just under 1.14. I think i got it to 1.1375. My RAM's rated for 1200MHz so it was only running at 1000 but that was overvolted as well to about 2.1. You shouldn't raise your volts up just because we're giving you numbers, you wanna do it one at a time and in very slow increments. When you think you've been able to boot up all okay then you get prime95 running for about an hour. If you're computer didnt crash then you need to reduce the voltage(s) until you're just about crashing and then you take it up a notch so that you're not giving your processor more power than what it needs. Don't do anything crazy :p stay below 1.15volts and keep your temps cool, I have not seen mine over 35 but I bought an aftermarket cooler so think about that. Like the Mang said you wanna be careful you're not stressing out your HT lines as well so make sure that whatever increments your doing to the FSB, you're compensating by bringing down the multipliers on the HT as well.
 

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Ok I have a 630 and I am prime stable at 3.25 with 1.44 max load, (not the best HSF but 4 copper pipes). It was almost stable at 3.5 but i did not want to go to 1.47v max load. (it would do prime about 30-50 minutes). max temp 59c

What cooler you using Dickcruz?
 

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I think its called the Hyper 212.. something along those lines. I'm too lazy to google:p but yeah dude it does the work. Well dude looking at your voltages I think its not your cpu dude it could be your chipset, memory or NB multiplier because I got this one stable at 1.1375 @ 3.5 MHz
 


4 copper pipes? 59c?? What cooler are YOU using?

With a decent cooler you should be in the mid/high 40's on LOAD @ 3.5/3.6Ghz
 

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Its not decent but better then stock 630. Its the stock 6000+. and 59c was at 1.48v, at 1.44 (current voltage) i still get to 53c or so. Do you think I should reset my HSF? not the best case for cooling either I think its only about 60 cfm out and 30 cfm in (with some side vents).
 

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IMO, having exhaust at surplus out is better than surplus in, where warm air gets to dance around and heat up the rest of the case. Especially if you have a videocard that exhausts any amount of heat into the case, and not just out the back.
 

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What would chip set voltage refer to in BIOS any ideas? I can incearse .3 .6 or .9, I can change CPU voltage other places so I assume its not talking about that. What is the advantage of increasing it? I have it at stock (no increase) would increasing this help me lower my CPU voltage? (xfx 750a)
 

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Ok I just cant seem to go above 3.25ghz here is all my settings any help would be awsome. At current settings it passes prime for 6+ hours.

CPU:athlon II 630
FSB:250
CPU multiplier:13
CPU VID: 1.35v (under load that will raise to 1.40-1.44)
NB multiplier: 8 (2000mhz)
NB VID: 1.175v
Ht Multiplier: 8 (2000mhz)
Ram speed: 832mhz (stock is 800 ddr2) set manually to 333mhz to achieve this.
Ram timming: 5-4-4-15-24 (EEP for 2.1v)
Ram voltage: 2.1v
Temps at current voltage is 30c idle andafter 6 hours or prime 54c.
Motherboard:xfx 750a am2+

Ram seems to be running fine, when I increase multiplier to 13.5 (3.375Gzh), I will BSOD in prime in about 10-20 minutes.
Thanks

Dont wanna hijac this thread Ill start a new one.
 


Raise the CPU vid to 1.4v
Raise the FSB till you hit 3.4Ghz
Raise the NB vid to 1.25v or higher plz..
Change your timings to 5-5-5-15-24 <-- this is must plz..

have fun your PC is running at 3.4Ghz ..... if you want speed you need to apply VOLTAGE =)
 

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I still can raise my cpu multiplier .5 and 1 more to make 3.375 and 3.5, would this be better then raising my fsb?

Ill change the ram timmings I was just curious why, The spec for this ram says 5-4-4-15@2.1v
 


you running a Phenom or Athlon?
 

Wizardsblade

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Oh I started with a lower multiple, raised my FSB and made sure my ram was stable, then just increased my multile back up (started with 250x 11 so I was just under stock and made my way to a stable 3.25 =). maybe a little backwards from a normal OC but that way I knew its the CPU that was the problem. I can underclock it just cant clock higher then the stock x14 (14x200=2.8Ghz)
 

Wizardsblade

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Ok sounds good Ill give it a try. Any particular reason I shouldn't just raise my cpu multiplyer to 13.5 or 14 to get 3.375 or 3.5 respectivly?

EDIT:UPDATE

I increased my voltage to 1.4 (1.48+-.02 load) and it got to 3.375, thanks. temp maxed out at 60c, does this sound like a good OC?
 

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I am also in need of OC help. I have a 630 running on a GA-MA770T_UDP3 with the
Bus Speed @230 and my Mushkin Blackline DDR3 1333 10666 @ 1.8v 7-7-7-20 with 1T CR. I am having to change the speed on my Ram to 400MHZ to make stable and can't go above 230 bus mostly because of the RAM. Do you have any suggestions on getting the RAM stable as well as overclocking to 3.5. Ran Prime 95 last night at settings above and no lockup up with the CPU at 56C on stock Cooler and Antec Illusion case fans on high. I know i need an aftermarket cooler and have been looking at Hyper 212 or Scythe Mugen. Cooler wise I want something cool and quiet. ANy suggestions would be helpful.
 

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Memory Divider settings in BIOS will enable you to set the way the ram increases with increase in FSB. Go for the 212 dude, best decision ever. Don't worry about quiet, you don't need the housecat, you need the alleycat