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Hi all. I've just inherited a Dell 9150. It's not too old (~ 2.5 years old), so it's got an Intel Dual Core 3.4Mhz processor with 2 Gig of RAM. It's also got a GeForce 7300 LE Graphics Card. It has a 17" monitor that has a max resolution of 1280 X 1024.

From my understanding, the 7300 is not really good for gaming, which is something I'd like to use this machine for. So, I've been looking around for a replacement card, and got recommended the ATI 4850. Which looks great.

The one thing I'm nervous about is the ATI's power requirement of 450W. The PSU (according to Dell's specs) is 375 W. Will this be enough for the 4850?

It seems that the other comparable GeForce cards have the same power requirements.

I had a look around the case last night and I don't think I'm game to replace the PSU. Mainly because I'm afraid I'm going to break something while removing/putting back the wires.

So, will the ATI 4850 cope with the Dell's PSU? If not, can anyone recommend a Graphics card that performs better than the 7300 that can run with the Dell's smaller PSU? I don't have a GeForce/Radeon preference. The only preference I have is to save myself some time by not replacing the PSU? I'm not looking for bleeding-edge performance and my monitor is not the best. I'd just like something that can admirably run something like Call of Duty and the like.

Thanks for any info,
Ed

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the total amount of watts isn't as important as the number of amps on the +12V rail. check the sticker on the power supply for that number. if it's less than 18A then a 4850 is completely out of the question. but even if it's higher than that, i doubt it would run reliably. either consider upgrading the psu as well, or lower your expectations in a video card. also, that pentium D you have isn't very good for gaming. consider upgrading that at some point as well.

Reply to Nik_I

HD4670 which does not need external power.

Reply to rolli59

I dont think is worth upgrading such system.
My friend also is in a similar situation and I told him that the best bang for the buck was the 4850, but that would mean new PSU too.

He is going to save for a new pc later on, which is a better idea.

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Reply to slim142

4670 would work well in that system.

Reply to cjl

The system is not top of the line but will get a good boost with HD4670. It is a dual core system after all and injecting 65 dollars in to it to get better gaming experience is a lot cheaper than building a new rig.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127383

Reply to rolli59

I'm happy to report that I ended up putting in a 4850, and the system seems to be running fine. I haven't tried a game that relies heavily on the GPU, so perhaps my PC will crash in the middle of playing a game... that's my next test. :)

Thanks heaps for the recommendations, though. If this plays up on me, I'll downgrade to the 4670.

Reply to Anonymous

Here is another option instead of down grading the card if you have problems,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Show [...] -%20Retail
By the way I read it somewhere that your 375watt Dell has 30 amps combined on the 12 volt rail so you should be fine.

Reply to rolli59

you got the 4850 to run on a 375w PSU. my god

Reply to rangers

The Dell power supply is a quality unit made by Delta. I doubt if you'll have any problems with it. As with any prebuilt system it has pretty poor cooling, download a hardware monitor and keep an eye on your temperatures, they'll more likely cause you problems then the power supply.

Reply to dirtmountain

dirtmountain, the card came with some temperature monitoring software. What's a good temperature to set an alarm for? I'm pretty ignorant in this area. So, at what temperature should I start to get worried?

Thanks again

Reply to Anonymous

rangers wrote :

you got the 4850 to run on a 375w PSU. my god


Not a stretch by any means, it has 30amps which is the recommended minimum.

dirtmountain wrote :

The Dell power supply is a quality unit made by Delta. I doubt if you'll have any problems with it. As with any prebuilt system it has pretty poor cooling, download a hardware monitor and keep an eye on your temperatures, they'll more likely cause you problems then the power supply.


375w continious watts @ 30amps


Message edited by kpo6969 on 11-12-2008 at 07:58:34 AM
Reply to kpo6969

I wouldn't be concerned by a HD4850 running in the 80s at load, I'd set it for 88 probably. There are some fairly cheap spot coolers available that would help if your temps start getting too high. Something like this
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] ture=ANTEC
if it's needed.

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