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Intel i7 940 Extreme ( Yes, Extreme) - IS this thing even Worth it???

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I just got a 940 Extreme with an EVGA X58 motherboard and I am wondering if my buy is even worth it.

I got both of them for $700.

But now I have realized that I could of bought the regular 940 and the board for the same price.

Did I get Ripped off?

My questions is:

- What makes a chip "EXTREME"?

- Is this worth it?

- Should I have bought the retail 940 NON extreme instead?

And yes it is a i7 940 Extreme....... Rare. so he tells me.

I'm just wondering if its all even worth it.

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Message edited by kuanaco on 01-12-2009 at 07:32:53 AM
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I think the extreme edition is i965, and it has an unlocked multiplier as well as 3.2GHz base clock, regular i940 is locked and 2.93GHz base. Go into the BIOS and see if you can set the multiplier, or if it's fixed. ES samples tend to get abused by pushing the limits anyway.

Personally I plan to get a plain old i920 and OC it to 3.6 with good air cooling.

My experience with EVGA is that their support update page is really slow - prepared to be patient or to get up at 3AM when trying to download BIOS or chipset updates, etc.

Gook luck.

Reply to fazers_on_stun

If you bought an engineering sample, Intel really would like it returned to them. They usually give an equal or better chip in return, and occasionally more.

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You bought an engineering sample does not mean Intel will give you anything back for returning it. I would contact Intel via email or call them, and find out if there is return policy or something before simply mailing it back to them.

ES CPUs aren't supposed to be sold, and if the serial # can be traced back to the person it was sent to, they might not get anymore ES CPUs, but that doesn't mean you will get a replacement CPU.

Contact Intel because I don't think there is an "automatic" replacement policy for engineering samples. I don't think Intel will care if you return it to them, personally, but if you want to know for sure, just contact them. Most they can tell you is that they won't support ES CPUs.

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^+1.

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Reply to Shadow703793
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^^yep, contact Intel if it really is an ES

Reply to Kari
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An extreme version will have an unlocked multiplier which makes overclocking simpler. As far as I know, there is no such thing as a retail extreme 940. If it is an engineering sample with an unlocked multiplier, then that part is good, and you probably got a good buy. Try overclocking by raising the multiplier and see how you do.

On the other hand, paying $400 or so for a 940(Iassume the board is valued at $300) instead of $300 for a 920 is probably not worth it, since the 920 is easily overclocked. Still, I don't think it was a bad deal so long as the chip works properly.

Reply to geofelt
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why would he want to contact intel, if he got an EE CPU and motherboard $700, is that not a bargain

Reply to rangers
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keep it its a bargain

Reply to rangers

rangers wrote :

why would he want to contact intel, if he got an EE CPU and motherboard $700, is that not a bargain



Because it's an engineering sample, and sometimes you never know what the people who had it did to it. They could have pushed the IMC voltage way, way over the 1.65V recommendation. Or maybe they tried to beat AMD's 6.4GHz on LN2 record with it :)

Reply to fazers_on_stun
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^ exactly.
Most ES samples are used to do suicide runs, run at high voltage, and other tests.
Unless the OP can get a guarantee from the person he bought it from, that the CPU will not die in 6 months (w/ no overclock), then it's his money he is risking.
There were a few ES 940s that were ran at 5+GHz@ 1.65v. Is this one of them?

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Reply to NMDante
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Some engineering samples might have been shipped to a company like Dell who did nothing more than use them in prototype builds. After development is done, they have no use for them and could sell them off. If that is the case, it is a good deal. Who knows?

Reply to geofelt
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That is an ES CPU. It is illegal for a retailer to sell you an ES CPU. Dell or any big company testing ES CPU would not release them into retail because Intel could fine them heavily. Intel does not sell ES CPUs, and some individual is getting money for free.

The ES CPU is used. The motherboard seems to list at $250 (and is this one used?). So you paid $450 for the CPU, when an i7 920 at <$300 clocks similarly. I wouldn't say you got a good deal.

The only places where unlocked multiplier matters are Intel's own X58 motherboard and high-end cooling (generally not air). At least in all the cases I've seen, third-party X58s have no trouble breaking 200 base clock. 200 base clock lets you hit 4 GHz on the i7, which is around the stability limit for the CPU on air. Oh, and unlocked CPUs are great for doing suicide shots (excessive and unstable overclocks for a few seconds/minutes), after which you may see permanent damage on the CPU/motherboard power regulators.

Reply to Wr

Call Intel or demand your money back and get a cheaper 920.

ES are samples and are not to be sold.

Reply to roadrunner197069

roadrunner197069 wrote :

Call Intel or demand your money back and get a cheaper 920.

ES are samples and are not to be sold.



You did indeed receive an i7 940 ES and i'm sure the multiplier is unlocked. Having said that, it's the older B0 stepping and will not have features that the retail C0/C1 steppings have. In addition, if will be missing the latest revisions. Return it. It doesn't matter what you payed.

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Balls has nothing to do with it rangers. He paid $700 for a questionable CPU that didnt even exist until now to us, that could possibly be damaged due to said above reasons, mass overvoltage etc.


Message edited by spathotan on 01-10-2009 at 08:36:03 AM
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Your best bet is to return it telling them you've got an ES, you never if that's going to break down some months from now :??: http://www.seoagora.com/img/589/d08l1104oulu/smiley2.gifhttp://www.seoagora.com/img/459/k08q1024glza/ecstatic.gifhttp://www.seoagora.com/img/317/s08b1024uzjw/content.gif

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.................has the OP even said it has an unlocked multiplier? could it be he got sold a 940 which the seller said was "extreme" just as a marketing ploy? so you're all bickering, bitching and whining over nothing?

wow what an idea.

Reply to V3NOM
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I sense some n00b geek hostility here?

Who needs a flick with a wet towel??

I'd just run the damned system check it does have an unlocked multi ... overclock it a bit and sit back and enjoy the end results.

Good buy I say ... good luck with it.

Oh ... if it blows you might have trouble with the warranty (since ES isn't supposed t obe retail) ... so don't crank it too hard.

Enjoy.








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Reply to reynod

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] 0#t1895062 Wake up crybabies, ES's die, new page in reality to some of you.

Reply to spathotan

@OP: Most here are no help to you. You should consider posting this at xtremesystems. I'm sure one of them might even offer to buy it from you (ie. for LN2 fun)

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Reply to Shadow703793
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has it ever been established that it is an ES or that it has an unlocked?
its not rocket science to figure out of the multi is locked.

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Here is a better photo.

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BTW the X58 stalls for a about 8 seconds before the bios shows up. Is this normal? Also is it normal for a restart for it to completely shutdown before it comes back up?

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Sorry bad Picture....Here's a better close up....

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Reply to kuanaco
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So I decided to sell the chip to highest bidder and go for the lower end i7 920.

I just don't see the difference in performance to justify the extra $400.

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Message edited by kuanaco on 01-12-2009 at 11:00:29 PM
Reply to kuanaco

kuanaco wrote :

So I decided to sell the chip to highest bidder and go for the lower end i7 920.

I just don't see the difference in performance to justify the extra $400.



Good call. You got some pocket money out of it and a realistic processor with a warranty.

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