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October 17, 2008 1:45:10 PM

Rate my cheap ass gaming rig please ! This is Canadian currency btw. I think i have a good PSU, CPU and GPU. But nout quite sure about the rest. I like the RAM for fast timing. Keep in mind i'm a poor ass student, SO 600 $ (CAD) is pretty much what i have. I'd still like to be able to upgrade in the future with better CPU and RAM.

Thanks for your time !

SIGMA ORCA ORCA-WB Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $47.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811226020

COOLER MASTER RR-CCH-L9U1-GP 92mm Hyper TX2 CPU Cooler - Retail 35.99$
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103031

Thermaltake TR2 RX W0134RU 550W ATX12V Ver2.2 SLI Ready Modular Passive PFC PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153059
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3.1GHz 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103272
Combo deal 170.19$

ASUS M3A78 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail 96.99$
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131340

HIS Hightech H485F512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail 194.54$ - 30$ MIR
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail 90.89$
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...


Approx total with MIR, no taxes and no shipping : 640 $.
Even that is over budget for me, with taxes and shipping it's 766 $ :pfff: 
October 17, 2008 2:06:57 PM

A couple of things.....First if you get these parts as is I think that you will be happy with the system as it stands. You could save some money on the ram through the egg, say Gskill for a few bucks less. The HSF is good but there are some brands that could save you $8-10. Might you ever up grade this system? Think about a PS in the 600-700 range, if you should ever want 2 GPUS. The CPU is good but a Phenom 9950 125 watt from the egg is about $180. It all comes down to your choice but do look at the ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

These are 4gb kits, several brands for less than $60.
October 17, 2008 2:19:36 PM

Here are my suggestions ..... Are you only considering AMD or are you open to Intel ?

1- Replace the cpu cooler with this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

Thermaltake TR2 PSU's are not that good so I would change these

2- Replace psu with this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103941
3- Get an Intel Pentium DualCore like this http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072
4- For the mobo this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128347

With those changes it comes just a little bit over 640$ and I think you would get a much better system.
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a b 4 Gaming
October 17, 2008 3:22:47 PM

If you are not unwilling to buy Intel, I'll go along with Smartel's picks.
Unless you plan a moderate to high overclock (i.e. will do none to light), you don't need an aftermarket CPU cooler at all.
The Mushkin RAM is a very good choice, btw. RAM that runs on the JEDEC standard 1.8V may save you all kinds of grief down the road.

You still need to add a hard drive and optical drive, unless you already have them.
October 17, 2008 3:55:22 PM

Thanks for the infos all. Will check the intel chip too, about the same price. Wish there were better combo deals :pfff: 
October 17, 2008 4:09:43 PM

Ok where have I been? Maybe hanging out at all my local shops too much but when did Newegg get a Canadian site? Last time I did a serious build they didn't have one.



edit: I suck at punctuation. and prob spelling too
October 17, 2008 4:16:08 PM

smartel7070 said:
Here are my suggestions ..... Are you only considering AMD or are you open to Intel ?

1- Replace the cpu cooler with this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

Thermaltake TR2 PSU's are not that good so I would change these

2- Replace psu with this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103941
3- Get an Intel Pentium DualCore like this http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072
4- For the mobo this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128347

With those changes it comes just a little bit over 640$ and I think you would get a much better system.

if you'd actually consider getting a pentium for $100, get a core 2 duo e7200, alot better performance for $20. but if you don't want to spend the extra money your probably fine without it.
btw, i though that the athlon 64x2 cpus cremated the pentiums, intel chips don't get better 'til the core 2s
October 17, 2008 4:24:49 PM

Smartel has some good suggestions there. I'm glad he brought up the Xigmatek 1283 cooler, cause that was my first thought.

It's the same price as what you're looking at (I've seen it for $30-35 online). Except that in a comparison test on Tom's Hardware the Xigmatek 1283 was the best tested cooler available.

Also, if you can find a good Intel board and Intel Dual-Core CPU for close to the same dollar amount, you may be happier over the long haul. Intel chips are just better performers right now.

As far as memory goes, you can get identical RAM form another brand for about $10-20 less. Personally I like Corsair memory. *shrugs*
October 17, 2008 4:28:38 PM

I practically have the same rig you proposed...and I absolutely love my rig...I was able to take advantage of crazzy ass promo codes and combo deals...ended spending $400 for my cpu+gpu+ram+mobo+case+psu (had hdd and dvd drive) and i really think I got great bang for my buck...

As others have said, you can save about $20 or so by getting cheaper ram...that mobo's chipset is solid, especially if you want to upgrade to a phenom later down the road...(imma wait till prices drop a bit more)
a b 4 Gaming
October 17, 2008 4:44:35 PM

You need to find a site that sells to Canadians, like www.ncix.com for example, or www.memoryexpress.com. Use Newegg as a reference if you want, to check specs and user reviews, but they won't ship to Canada.

October 17, 2008 4:54:41 PM

i thought newegg.ca was already open....
October 17, 2008 5:03:39 PM

newegg now has a canadian site so that should not be a problem.
a b 4 Gaming
October 17, 2008 5:10:54 PM

Hey, it is open :)  I didn't expect it to happen until the holiday shopping.

It seems to have about the same prices as NCIX. The Q6600 is cheaper at newegg.ca, but the WD6400AAKS is more expensive, etc.

I notice that the reviews on the Canadian site are in fact taken from the same database as the US site Newegg.com. It was weird to see 426 reviews for Xigmatek HDT-S1283 on a brand new Web site, but it makes sense now - the reviews are actually written by Americans over the past 8 months.
October 17, 2008 5:34:48 PM

So the timing on the mushkin RAM is not that important ? I could just get 4GB of Corsair 800 Mhz and 5-5-5-12 at the cheapest price ?

Great info all , thanks a ton.
October 17, 2008 6:03:33 PM

0mg_1ts_m3 said:
btw, i though that the athlon 64x2 cpus cremated the pentiums, intel chips don't get better 'til the core 2s


The Pentium DualCore is part of the Core2Duo family, difference is slower fsb, smaller cache and visualization is disabled.
a b 4 Gaming
October 17, 2008 6:09:31 PM

The timing is important, especially if you overclock. Keep in mind that the mushkin timings if 5-4-4-12 are reported at 1.8 V. They can become better at higher voltages. Mushkin just happen to be more honest than others. Others will push timings as much as they can, with voltage up to 2.1V or worse, then claim great timings.

There's a Corsair 4GB at newegg.ca for $145 that gets 4-4-4-12 at 2.1V. Because of the voltage thing, it's not really that much better than the Mushkin. It costs $61 more too.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145194
Don't get me wrong, I love Corsair, they do great stuff, but I prefer Mushkin's approach when it comes to RAM ads.

a b 4 Gaming
October 17, 2008 6:31:14 PM

Some poor guy in another thread bought some RAM advertised at 4-4-4-12 at 2.1V. Trouble is, he put it in an OEM system, where you can't tweak the RAM voltage. Now he's stuck with RAM that runs at 6-6-6-18 on 1.8V.

Rule #2: ALWAYS buy RAM that will run at its advertised timings on the JEDEC STANDARD 1.8V. Advertising that you don't meet the standard doesn't make it okay.

(Rule #1 is never buy a cheap PSU)
October 17, 2008 6:58:18 PM

Even though i'd really really like to get the intel CPU and Mobo recommended here, It's just way too expensive atm. I may have to stick to AMD. Actually I may have to go lower than what i suggested in th OP. 5600+ Windsor or something, with a potent but basic Mobo.

I can't spend 200 $+ on a CPU and mobo, as i chose to get the best GPU i could afford atm.

I did change the PSU and CPU cooler. Antec 550 with -70 $ insta saving ^^
October 17, 2008 7:15:41 PM

Another thing, should i be worried about micro ATX MB ?

Interesting combo deals with AMD 5600+ or 6000+ with BIOFORCE micro ATX mobo or MSI K9 micro ATX too.

CPU + MB combo deal on Newegg.ca
http://www.newegg.ca/Special/Combo.aspx?SubCategory=22&Brand=0&SaveCompare=0&SaveAmount=0&SortField=0&PageSize=25&listType=combo&action=search&Page=2

Trying to find something around 150 ish that won't bottleneck too much my ATI 4850. And like i said i'm open to intel but it's more expensive...
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