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October 18, 2008 11:29:50 PM

Hey, I recently decided to dive head-first into pc gaming, and thanks to a few friends I have a system build. I have not ordered it yet, I need some critique.

Here it is.

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

EVGA 01G-P3-1280-AR GeForce GTX 280 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Thermaltake W0116RU 750W Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2P10664GK - Retail

AMD Phenom 9850 BLACK EDITION 2.5GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HD985ZXAGHBOX - Retail

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136073

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM

Let me know if there are any problems with this, or any things you would change. It retails for around 1185$ on newegg.

Thanks in advance!
October 19, 2008 12:45:30 AM

a couple things, i dont know that i would go amd, intel right now at least has better performance in general, as for the graphics card i think that a 4870 would suffice unless you are playing over 1920x1200 res and it is almost as powerful for less than the gtx 280
also unless you are going for overclocking, in which case you would need a cpu cooler there is no need for artic silver and ddr2 800 would do just as well for cheaper
October 19, 2008 12:58:34 AM

that motherboard uses an AMD chip and supports crossfire, you picked a Nvidia graphic card that that would only support SLI. If you stick with the AMD option, then get a ATI graphic card (4870 or 4850). A better option would be to pick a X38 or X48 motherboard and a Q6600 or E8500 and the HD4870.
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October 19, 2008 1:32:05 AM

if your going with the phenom 9850 get a 790gx motherboard better oc'ing from what I've seen. I have the 9850 and the same mb and can't get it over 2.8 its a good setup but, I also have a q6600 with a cheap p35 mb and it overclocks to 3.2 without even trying.
October 19, 2008 5:59:31 AM

haha I just realized that, my friend recommended an evga 790i sli mobo. And a gtx 280 still overpowers nearly any other videocard no-matter what resolution you playing. Crysis is a superb example. And unfortunately I'm going with amd because of price, unless you have another suggestion.
October 19, 2008 6:30:32 AM

Okay there are only a few situations where I recommend AMD right now. I like AMD in general, but here are the reasons that I'd pick AMD over Intel right now.
1) Budget!! If you budget can't afford an Intel rig, than AMD can serve you well (especially if your not OC'ing at all).
2) If you think AM3 chip will fit into the newer AM2+ mobo's and your willing to take the risk, than that would be the way to go.

Aside from those 2 situations, there is only 1 option that makes sense with your budget (~$1,200), which would be that your going to upgrade (if it's possible) to an AM3 AMD CPU in the future. Even if the quad core is the reason that you want AMD, the q6600 is a good value, especially if you do a mild OC to 2.8-3.2 gHz. Clock for clock the Phenom can't compete with Intel. They are close, but not close enough, IMHO.
Here is what I'd consider for ~$1200 or less:
CPU/mobo combo - $307 - $20 MIR = $287!! Has e8500 and p45 X-fire mobo too!! Not the badest mobo, but has plenty of options for upgrades later!!
4th combo from the bottom!!
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

GPU - $302 shipped!! One of the better GPU's that you can get for the $!!!
HIS Hightech H487FT512P Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Turbo Video Card - Retail

HD - $75 shipped!! One of the fastest HD's for the $!!
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

DVD Burner - $29 shipped!! Retail version so you will get the software to read/Burn DVD's with!!!
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Retail

PSU - $104 - $20 MIR = $84!!! One of the best PSU's you can get for the $. Comes with 60A on the 12v rail and has 4 x 6 +2pin PCI-e power connectors, so you won't have to worry about getting adaptors for your possible 2 x GPU's later! :) 
Corsair TX CMPSU-750TX ATX12V & EPS12V Power Supply

Case - $78 shipped!!! One of the best cases out there right now. Hard to beat at this price!
Cooler Master 690 without Power Supply - RC-690-KKN1-GP

Memory - $96 - $35 MIR = $61!!! Some of the fastest DDR2 800mHz RAM out there!
Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

Total = ~$971 - $55 MIR's = $916!!! Now you should have Vista 64 bit OS to take advantage of the 4 gb's of DDR2.
October 19, 2008 6:31:35 AM

really u think the 280 overpowers any ANY other card! ! really think about it , thats all good night
October 19, 2008 8:24:19 AM

Well I definitely want to futureproof my system, which is one of the main reasons I want a 280, I also want to run crysis on max with 30 fps. You cannot do that with a single 4870. I don't want to drop down money later for a different card, I'd much rather get a single card, and get another of the same type next year.

That aside, lunyone that is some awesome info, I'll probably have my final build tomorrow.
October 26, 2008 6:30:39 PM

Anything over $300 is a waste as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather have 2 x 4850's in crossfire (for about $320) than have a single card at $430 after MIR's. That's my opinion though, so take that how you like.
October 26, 2008 7:36:45 PM

I want to run crysis on max settings. I get 28 fps with this card, and I get around 19-25 with twin 4850's. With the system you mentioned. That's why I want one. Also, is a quad core much better than a dual core? Pricewise. But once again, will it work?
October 26, 2008 7:48:34 PM

Well that depends on which review your looking at. Some reviews favor the 280 over the 4850's in crossfire and some favor the 4850's in crossfire over the 280. So you can do what you like, but overall I think the 4850's in crossfire are better than spending +$400 on a single GPU. If I was going to spend some $ on a single GPU right now, I'd spend it on a 1gb 4870 which is around $300. I'd save the +$130 difference and use it later on the next best GPU out!
October 26, 2008 8:05:46 PM

Yeah I guess you're right. I can always get another 4870 later on. Thanks! And what else do I need to add to that setup you gave me? OS, and what else to be able to build it and then use it.
October 26, 2008 8:33:16 PM

Lets see:
CPU/mobo combo: e8500/Gigabyte mobo
GPU - 4870 512mb or the 1gb version
Memory - I'd probably consider these Muskin ones for $68 - $20 = $48!! They run at stock speeds and should allow good OC's too!
PSU - Corsair 750tx, but now is cheaper at Newegg.com for $102 - $20 MIR = $82 (with "esave15" promo code too).
Case - Cooler Master 690 at Buy.com!
DVD Burner - Will need one and maybe get a DVD ROM, so you can load the 2 disks and start burn and then walk away!!
OS - Vista Home Premium 64bit. This will allow you to fully utilize all 4gb's of DDR2 and more later!!
HD - Get the AAKS 640 gb WD HD I have listed above!! Fast and cheap!
October 26, 2008 8:35:25 PM

fogot Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, and speakers/Headset. I use the headset myself, since it is easy to talk to people online, when playing online games. And you can crank up the sound as much as you like and it won't affect anyone close by!!!
October 26, 2008 9:42:48 PM

Ok, so I changed the case and the power supply and added a 4870 instead. I'm really pleased with the setup, it totalled, including headphones, shipping and 2 year warranties, oh and tax, at 1400$. Not bad eh? I'll send you a linky later.
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