I need your opinion....

[jhojo26]

i will build a cpu... i got 2 option....

option 1 using amd processor:
Processor : AMD Athlon 64 x2 5600
Mobo : Emaxx 790GTX
Memory : KIngston 2gb/800MHz
Optical : 22x DVD/RW w/ sata(any brand)
HDD : 250 GB SATA(any brand)
Casing : 500 Watts power supply

Here's my question:
1. Is HD3300(build in video card in the mobo) is enough to play some latest games? Ex. Crysis, Farcry 2, dead space, left 4 dead or call of duty 5? Or instead of 790GTX do i need to use ECS A8200GM??
2. Or Do i need to buy a extra video cardinstead of using build in video card of the mobo??
3. Do i need to buy extra cooling system for AMD processor???

Option 2 using intel processor:
Processor : As much possible I want to use my old Pentium D 925+
Dual Core 3GHz/800MHz or E7200
Mobo : Emaxx P35-PRO(for my old Processor) or Emaxx P45
Memory : KIngston 2gb/800MHz
ViideoCard: Nvidia 9600GT Super + 1Gb or 512MB 128bit/DDR2
Optical : 22x DVD/RW w/ sata(any brand)
HDD : 250 GB SATA(any brand)
Casing : 500 Watts power supply

what do you think on my old processor, can my old processor handle the whole system??????

 

[pr2thej]

oh good lord....
No you cant play Crysis on an intergrated chip, its never going to happen. Same for the rest.

Out of the 2 options i would say option 2, but they are both incapable of playing the above games well.
Whats your budget? We can see about an option 3

 

[jhojo26]

so you mean in my option 1 i need to buy a video card to play those games??
my budget is ~$350 to $450.

what is the incompatibility in option 2???

 

[jj463rd]

Is your motherboard a 790 GX motherboard like this one?
http://www.emaxxtech.com/products.php?id=12
I have never hear of emaxx before really.
If so you will get good performance with a nice discrete graphics card such as a Radeon 4850 or 4870.

 

[pr2thej]

jhojo26 its not so much incompatability, its more a case of you wanting to play the latest most demanding games on 2-3 year old hardware. So its just a lack of power.

What do you already own? I can see your current proc / mobo, is that Kingston RAM yours as well? And you are currently not using a graphics card?
List your Case, PSU, any HDD's, Optical drives, cooling as well plx

 

[jhojo26]

jj463rd yah that's the mobo.. what is the diff. of nvidia to ati??? in terms of quality or anything??

pr2thej here is my current computer spec:
intel pentium d dual core 3Gb/800MHz
ecs p4m800pto-m3(agp slot)
kingston 1gb/533Mhz
Samsung DVD/RW 18x
Samsung 320Gb/sata
Geforce fx5500 256MB/128 bit
400watts power supply

can you give a spec. that the price is ~$350 to $450???

 

[Reynod]

ECS ... chuckle.

Get youself an Asus P5 and an E8200 or higher CPU and a couple of gigs of ram with a 4850 graphics card.

Buy budget ram and a case with a 450W PSU.

Don't buy crap mobos.

That should be able to play crysis in a reasonable res with some of the eye candy off ... and not break the bank.

I am not google so I don't do prices ...

 

[pr2thej]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.153375 Mobo and CPU $133 can o/c to 3.4 or so

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122
Good 4GB RAM $50 with a $10 MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130380
$130 with a $15 MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.151549 Nice PSU / Case combo for $125 the PSU is very good and will allow you to upgrade.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007
AS5 $6

Total $444 minus $25 MIR = 419


Keep the Optical, and HDD....add a Seagate 500GB if you wish. You wont max the above games, but they will defo be very playable.
Any spare cash you can put towards a front fan for the Antec 300 case / gaming keys and mouse / Vista 64bit. Take your pick

 

[fullmetall]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.153375 Mobo and CPU $133 can o/c to 3.4 or so

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122
Good 4GB RAM $50 with a $10 MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130380
$130 with a $15 MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.151549 Nice PSU / Case combo for $125 the PSU is very good and will allow you to upgrade.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007
AS5 $6

Total $444 minus $25 MIR = 419


Keep the Optical, and HDD....add a Seagate 500GB if you wish. You wont max the above games, but they will defo be very playable.
Any spare cash you can put towards a front fan for the Antec 300 case / gaming keys and mouse / Vista 64bit. Take your pick

he's going to need vista no matter what...

 

[fullmetall]

He showed you a AMD way, ill show you an Intel way. which i think intel is better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148288
500gb Harddrive = free shipping


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127383
hd4670 radeon = MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148027
500w psu = MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
Case = $15 discont

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131329
ASUS Board, might change to a Biostar.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116072
pretty good oc'ing chip.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166
I prefer ocz but these arent bad.


so your looking at $467 - $25 in MIR

go get a good xigmatek cooler to help oc'ing and a couple scythe fans 120x28mm i think. or a little more skinny in width.

 

[pr2thej]

pfff AMD has the faster stock dual (your talking OCing, OP is talking playing Crysis on intergrated chip!), more capable GPU and cheaper. Well...the gap is about the HDD cost ofc but even so im sticking to my guns.

Would agree on Vista x64 but as this is budget im sure the OP can suffer with his current OS for a few months

 

[nsimo86]

actually I've heard you can run crysis with hybrid crossfireX. Get a 790gx mobo and a hd 3450 i think.

I'd go with pr2thej's build except I'd get a HD 4830 instead of the 9800gt in case he wants to go crossfire in the future.

 

[jthorn]

Go with option 2 except you should use Fullmetals shopping list. Very nice dual core for $500.

 

[Shadow703793]

i wil build a cpu... i got 2 option....

FYI: Good luck with building a CPU fab for <$500. You can't build a CPU! What you are building is a computer!

 

[jhojo26]

Many Thanks to all!!! for giving me idea and spec. I will review all the parts for the mean time. by the way my location is in the Philippines. i just post here bec. i know you are a head interms of technology... some parts that you mentioned are not available here and some are too expensive but i will try to check it.

by the way shadow 70379 i want to build a light gaming platform and upgrade it if possible to hardcore gaming platform (if there's enough money and available spare here).

i'd like the spec given by fullmetall and pr2thej thanks guy's.

 

[jhojo26]

what is d max. o.c(or ideal o.c) for the e5200 and x2 6000??

 

[pr2thej]

Similar.
As a % the e5200 overclocks more but as it has a lower stock speed this evens out...both chips should get 3.4 with no probs.

 

[Shadow703793]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148288
500gb Harddrive = free shipping


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127383
hd4670 radeon = MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817148027
500w psu = MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129042
Case = $15 discont

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131329
ASUS Board, might change to a Biostar.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116072
pretty good oc'ing chip.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231166
I prefer ocz but these arent bad.

+1 for all EXCEPT PSU. Get a better quality PSU from Antec.

 

[jj463rd]

I got an email from newegg recently and they had 4 GB of 2 X 2GB A-Data DDR2-800 RAM for just $35.

 

[fullmetall]

Yea i chose that psu for money wise. but, if any psu at 500w -600w, i'd go with ocz or corsair.

 

[jhojo26]

1.POWERCOLOR HD4670 512MB DDR3 128BIT PCS
2.POWERCOLOR HD4650 512MB DD2 128BIT
3.POWERCOLOR HD3650 512MB DDR3 DVI 128BIT PCS
4.POWERCOLOR HD3650XT 512MB DDR3 128BIT DVI PCS
is this video cards is ok?? Im not familiar in ATI.

1.AMD Phenom X4 9550 2.2Ghz Quad Core
2.AMD Phenom X3 8650 2.3Ghz Triple Core
3.AMD X4 PHENOM 9950 (2.6G)
what processor i should get from the 3 example??
then i will pack up w/:
2GB DDR2 800 Geil Single/2GB DDR2 800 Geil Dual
or should i get Corsair 2GB 800 (1GB x 2) Twin 800 XMS??

what do you think about this mobo's???
1.Gigabyte GA-MA78G-DS3H A/V/GLan/DDR2
2.MSI K9A2 Platinum All Solid Caps (Phenom Ready)
3.MSI K9N SLI PLATINUM NFORCE 570 / DDR2 /PCIE
4.MSI K9A2 PLATINUM AMD790X CROSSFIRE
5.MSI DKA790GX
6.MSI K9A2CF-F;

 

[fullmetall]

ouch 4gb is going so cheap you only want 2gb?

idk, i gave u my specs on what a decent setup is, idk what all that is...

 

[pr2thej]

same as tbh, just stick with the above builds and you cant go wrong.
we did the hard work for you so you dont need to worry about comparing every component on the market

 

[fullmetall]

Exactly, we stuck you with the top quality components of your budget, now its just the matter of choosing amd or intel INTEL FTW

 

[jhojo26]

I appreciate ur effort bro. but like what i said my location is from the Philippines. i got limited resources here fullmetall... like the memory G.Skill is not available here only Kingston,transcend,geil,starex and corsair is available.
Also the casing....Antec 300 is also not available here...i want to replace it w/ Icute QW08 5GBB with 550W i like the style of if and the ventilation is ok due to Metal Side Panel + 18cm Fan on it.
By the way pr2thej Biostar is also not available here...what mobo can i replace on it??? BIOSTAR A770 A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - i try to search for replacement and here are the result.
1.Redfox TA770 A2+
2.Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3
3.ECS A770M-A Amd770
this is the only available 770 chipset here. Any recommendation for replacement??

If Intel spec.(* Some parts are replace due to limited resources)
-Intel Dual Core E5200 2.5Ghz 2MB
-ASUS P5QL PRO P43 1333FSB - (limited supply)
*MSI P43 Neo-F iP43
*PC Chips P43G
*Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L,1600Mhz OC
-G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
*2GB DDR2 PC800 Kingston 2x
*Corsair Dominator 2 GB DDR2-1066
*Geil Value Dual 4 GB DDR2-800 (2 x
*Corsair 2GB XMS DHX 800 (1gb x 2)
*4GB DDR2 800 Geil Dual
-Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
*Icute QW08 5GBB with 550W
-MSI R4670-2D512 Radeon HD 4670 512MB 128-bit GDDR3(limited supply)
*PowerColor HD3650 512MB 128Bit GDDR3
*POWERCOLOR HD4650 512MB DD2 128BIT
*POWERCOLOR HD3650XT 512MB DDR3 128BIT DVI PCS
*Force 3D HD4650 512mb,128bit,ddr3,dualDVI,TV
*Palit HD4830 Super 512mb,256bit,ddr3,hdmi,dvi;
-500GB Seagate 7200RPM SATA 32MB
*SATA2 500Gig WD/Samsung 7200rpm

if AMD spec.(* Some parts are replace due to limited resources)
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000 3.1GHz Socket AM2-(limited supply sometimes)
*Athlon 64 X2 5600 (2.9G) Box
- BIOSTAR A770 A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD
*Redfox TA770 A2+
*Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3
*ECS A770M-A Amd770
or should i go w/ 780 chipset???
*Emaxx AMD780G-Pro
*Redfox TA780G M2+ AMD780G
*Gigabyte GA-MA78G-DS3H
*MSI KA780G-M
or SLI board??
*MSI K9N SLI PLATINUM NFORCE 570 / DDR2 /
*MSI K9NNEO-F nForce 560/

Hope your technology are here in our country...