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Anonymous
May 10, 2005 10:19:36 AM

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<http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/rfupdate/20...;

Other panel members seemed less enthusiastic about pulling
the plug on analog transmission. At least two said they did
not look forward to being in their offices, taking calls
from angry constituents, who will want to know why they can
no longer receive free over-the-air TV the day after the
switchoff.

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Kirk Bayne
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Anonymous
May 10, 2005 8:17:54 PM

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NO KIDDING!

The last time I recall an "instant changeover" was when BBC-1 dropped the
old 405 B&W system after BBC-2 had been broadcasting in PAL for some time,
and the British had been notified/warned for years (?) that it was going to
happen.

Similarly...but with somewhat less trauma: Sweden changed from driving on
the left to driving on the right...literally "over night"...but this too had
been announced, planned, and road crews were ready to make the changes.

It's gotta happen sometime...but the reluctance to already have gotten out
ahead of this issue means it's going to take several more years before they
can even begin to think about shutting down the current service.

"K. B." <hotmail.com@lis2lis2> wrote in message
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> <http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/rfupdate/20...;
>
> Other panel members seemed less enthusiastic about pulling
> the plug on analog transmission. At least two said they did
> not look forward to being in their offices, taking calls
> from angry constituents, who will want to know why they can
> no longer receive free over-the-air TV the day after the
> switchoff.
>
> ---
>
> Kirk Bayne
> alt.video.digital-tv Home Page
> <http://www.geocities.com/lislislislis/avdtv.htm&gt;
Anonymous
May 11, 2005 8:16:46 AM

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K. B. wrote:
> <http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/rfupdate/20...;
>
> Other panel members seemed less enthusiastic about pulling
> the plug on analog transmission. At least two said they did
> not look forward to being in their offices, taking calls
> from angry constituents, who will want to know why they can
> no longer receive free over-the-air TV the day after the
> switchoff.
>
> ---
>
> Kirk Bayne
> alt.video.digital-tv Home Page
> <http://www.geocities.com/lislislislis/avdtv.htm&gt;

From that same article...

"During the questions from the audience, one broadcaster took the mic
and sarcastically told Barton that broadcasters had failed Congress 10
years ago when it was considering a digital transition deadline. He said
broadcasters had failed to explain the importance of a “digital
reception” deadline as part of digital transmission deadline."

Barton held a meeting today on the subject which I attended. When I
brought up the same subject of the need for a receiver standard and the
facts that most receivers sold today will not meet any meaningful
standard an engineer could set to paper with a straight face he took
offence.

He said that that was not what manufactures were telling him.

Well what one manufacturer told his LA's at a meeting last week was
this, paraphrased. They were demonstrating a solid state
tuner/receiver/converter card that they said they could make for $40 in
quantities of millions. This cost does not include IP royalties, a box
or power supply, the cord, blinking lights and plastic front end, remote
control, just the board with connectors for S-Video out, antenna in and
composite (no HD this is just for converting to your analog TV)

They then said that their OEM's would add all that and then include
magins for sales, marketing and distribution bringing the sale price to $60.

My estimate is more like $125 minimum but everyone there was eating this
up. Why? Because $60 is the majic number that Motorola mentioned
sometime back that they would make receivers for so everyone
automatically and cynically has to match it.

BTW a Motorola rep at the meeting today tried to shout me down by saying
that Motorola has perfect 8-VSB receivers no problem today. Later
talking to him outside he knew nothing.

So the dreaming goes on. If Barton does not get some real world input
his bill will crash and burn, dead on arrival. I was there because I
really would not like that to happen but whenever DC hears anything they
don't like they attack.

Bob Miller
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Anonymous
May 11, 2005 8:29:36 AM

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Basically commissions or indeed governments who have the responsibility to
make changes should simply set a technically feasible date, subtract 3
months and stick to it. Time to get back to totally ignoring complaints,
pressure groups! Just deathly silence and get on with it. Those special
interest groups that scream the loudest are like naughty little children
throwing tantrums and spitting their dummies! Unfortunately most "mommies"
give in for peace and quiet. Time to become leaders again and make
decisions!! oh one other thing drown the lawyers!

"K. B." <hotmail.com@lis2lis2> wrote in message
news:2ck08110u9o5cca010n8og14s30un42bps@4ax.com...
> <http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/rfupdate/20...;
>
> Other panel members seemed less enthusiastic about pulling
> the plug on analog transmission. At least two said they did
> not look forward to being in their offices, taking calls
> from angry constituents, who will want to know why they can
> no longer receive free over-the-air TV the day after the
> switchoff.
>
> ---
>
> Kirk Bayne
> alt.video.digital-tv Home Page
> <http://www.geocities.com/lislislislis/avdtv.htm&gt;
Anonymous
May 14, 2005 1:19:09 PM

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Weekend Guru wrote:
> The last time I recall an "instant changeover" was when BBC-1 dropped the
> old 405 B&W system after BBC-2 had been broadcasting in PAL for some time,
> and the British had been notified/warned for years (?) that it was going to
> happen.

It was a very British sort of instant changeover! Started in 1969, and
was finally completed in the mid 1980s. The old 405 line stuff was on
VHF, and all the 625 line broadcasts in the UK are on UHF, so the two
co-existed for years without needing to co-habit.

There were some impressive overnight milestones, like the night that the
whole ITV network (then a constellation of 16 seperately owned stations)
switched the entire distribution/contribution network over to 625 line
PAL from 405 line by simultaneously moving the 625/405 converters from
the studio centers to main transmitter sites.
!