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$1000 Gaming Rig. Ready to pull the trigger. I just want a thumbs up

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October 23, 2008 3:29:41 AM

Its a budget build... The sole purpose of this beast is to game. I might install open office... maybe... Please let me know what you think. All quoted prices are from newegg.com

Case and PSU:
Sonata III with the EA500 psu $100 (Already purchased, back to school deal w00t)

CPU and CPU HSF:
E7200 Retail $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052
Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro $27 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

GPU:
Sapphire HD4870 Toxic Edition $300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102796

Mobo:
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard $116 AR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358

RAM:
G. Skill PI Black 2x2GB DDR2800 CL4 @ 1.8v http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209

Hard Drive:
WD Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218

DVD Drive:
Lite-on 20x DVD+/-R DVD Burner Black SATA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106263

OS:
Vista Home Premium 64 bit OEM $99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116485



Rational:

I wanted a really powerful GPU because it is a gaming computer. I know the toxic edition is literally the most expensive HD 4870 512MB, but in a world of sketchy ATI manufacturers I trust the toxic card. I also am trying to create a really quiet build. I am skimping on the proc to buy the toxic card. I am planning to oc the E7200 to at least 3.17GHz with the freezer pro 7. I don't think it will have any trouble feeding the HD 4870 when it is clocked up. Let me know if I made any garish mistakes. Let me know if you approve. I just don't want to @#$% this up.


October 23, 2008 3:33:20 AM

Normally I would say avoid the 1GB cards because of very little gain, but Sapphire has a brand new one out that is vapor cooled just like that one for a couple bucks more.

That's all I have, looks good, you'll want to upgrade the CPU as you can.
October 23, 2008 3:41:11 AM

I was looking at the 1GB model, but it is not a toxic edition, right? At least it doesn't mention anything about vapor-x. It looks very similar but I am just not sure. I am also not gaming at a resolution that makes 1GB worthwhile. Here is the 1 GB card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801
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October 23, 2008 3:57:34 AM

I highly recomend getting the 1 GB version if you can. http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU2Miwx...

If you read the conclusion, it explains some benefits beyond just frame rate that I thought was interesting.

Another thing to note is you could get a Gtx 260 216 for probably a little cheaper, and get better performance.
October 23, 2008 4:20:26 AM

farcry 2 favors more vga ram on high resolutions...look here

http://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics...

..512mb plummits the frames rate on the 4870 and look at the extra ram on gtx260 working much better..so get the 1gb model for the same price as the toxic 512 version
October 23, 2008 4:27:14 AM

my bad i read "45um"

I am sincerely sorry.
October 23, 2008 4:36:27 AM

mbbs20 said:
farcry 2 favors more vga ram on high resolutions...look here

http://www.guru3d.com/article/far-cry-2-pc-vga-graphics...

..512mb plummits the frames rate on the 4870 and look at the extra ram on gtx260 working much better..so get the 1gb model for the same price as the toxic 512 version



Thanks Mbbs20,

Looks like in at least this one game 1GB is useful. Happened just this way with 512Mb as I recall, no gains at first then the game makers caught up.
October 23, 2008 4:43:28 AM

You could also run two 4850s in crossfire for under $300. IMHO that would be better.
October 23, 2008 4:44:25 AM

Bah! Now you guys have me rethinking my plans! How would a E4700 be better than the E7200? It has less shared L2 cache and is 65nm not 45nm. I just found out that there is an E7300?!?!? Is that worth it over the E7200? Apparently the E7300 has a 10x multiplier. I am treading into over budget territory... the $300 graphics card is real tight as it is. Sapphire doesn't even have the 1GB toxic style card listed on their site! How legit can that be?
October 23, 2008 4:47:14 AM

The problem with two HD 4850s in cf is noise and heat. I am going for a really quiet build. To get two 4850s under $300, they would pretty much have to be reference 4850s. That would also make my case really hot. I am trying to find a quiet solution that exhausts heat out the back.
October 23, 2008 4:49:45 AM

The card came out yesterday, litterally. You could at least give them 36 hours ;) 

The announcement about Sapphire, ATI, and the new cooling tech happened a couple days ago in the tech news. It's not a different card, just a different cooler.

The E7300 is likely worth the extra 10 bucks. Intel said Monday they were dropping the price, but it has no yet happened.

Ignore the E4700, it's not enough power for you.
October 23, 2008 5:04:30 AM

Tigerdirect has the E7300 for the same price that newegg.com has the E7200 ($119)! I would also have to pay taxes with newegg so if I choose the E7000 series, I would definitely go with tigerdirect for the cpu. Lol at the 1GB Sapphire, I had no idea it was so brand new. If I get a cheaper P45, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and buy my cpu at tiger direct, the build comes out to exactly $1000 before rebates. Replacing the toxic 4870 with the 1 GB puts me $10 over, but with a $15 rebate on the mobo the final build cost is $995
October 23, 2008 5:22:09 AM

That sounds very good to me.
October 23, 2008 6:23:39 AM

I'm going to have to wait for at least one review of the 1 GB Sapphire though. The only reason I would get it is if it is really quiet like the toxic edition. It is at a price premium...
October 23, 2008 6:40:29 PM

Someone posted a review for the sapphire 1GB. It sounds awesome! For $10 over the 512 toxic edition I think it is worth it
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