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November 21, 2008 6:59:43 PM

Okay i'm gonna start out with saying i dont know much about computers and hardware. I know the basics, and i know how to replace some parts. I won my computer a little over a year ago, and i was told it was a beast. It had a geforce 7950 GT 512 to start out with, but not long ago, it got toasted because it got too hot. Right now im running with an old geforce 6600 128 ram.

Even with the 7950 gt graphics card, it did not run games that well. In crysis i had to turn stuff down to medium, and the same with bioshock and oblivion. Im looking to replace my graphics card with the geforce 9800 gt 512. I heard its supposed to be quite good for its price range. Will my computer be able to run games like crysis, fallout 3, dead space, and all the new games with high settings? (1200*1024 Resolution)

My computer specs http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8730/pcspecscq4.jpg

Also, under 'CPU', and then in the Core Speed category, in the cpu-z program it shows as each core running 1600 mhz, yet when i go to the control panel, and to system in windows, it shows 2600 for each core. When i start up the CPU-Z, it shows 2600, then after around 10 seconds it goes down to 1600. Why does it do that?

thanks.

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November 21, 2008 7:14:06 PM

its you power saving option in bios that take your speed down.

We need more info about your system to help.

CPU ? Memory-amount-speed ? PowerSupply ? Mobo ? wanted resolution ?

everything you can tell is fine :D 
November 21, 2008 7:28:04 PM

I thought everything you needed to know was in the screenshot i provided.

cpu is core 2 extreme 6700
power supply is called Black Power, and is 600w
mobo? motherboard? gigabyte 965p-ds3
not sure what you mean by memory amount speed
ram, 2 x corsair 1024 pc2-5300, 2 x kingston 512 ps2-5300
wanted resolution is 1200*1024 with AA on.






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a b U Graphics card
November 21, 2008 7:37:28 PM

It was a beast of a rig to win with the QX6700. The 7950GT has been it's weak point all along though. Newer games especially the GF7's seem to tank in. A 9800GT would be good, but a Radeon HD4850 would be even better.

November 21, 2008 7:42:04 PM

nice thx alot ! sry didnt checked your screenshot. :(  now i see ;) 

Your CPU is NICE, memory can do it .. not the best, not really fast ... maybe its your first bottleneck.

PSU is nice, 600W is enough for most high end gaming rig (non sli)

For GPU. i would recommend a 4850 ou 4870 ATI or 9800gtx+ or GTX260 if you like Nvidia( i like nvidia)

The 260 can be found for about 250$ now !!!


Is money is really a matter, 9800GT can still be good, but for Crysis ... youll need everything you can put in your computer !!!! and more RAM crysis Pump aboput 2g so its LIMIT to have 2g.

Your mobo can take 800mhz memory, still can OC it. your Proc can also be OCed well whit nice cooling !!!!!




November 21, 2008 7:48:20 PM

pauldh said:
It was a beast of a rig to win with the QX6700. The 7950GT has been it's weak point all along though. Newer games especially the GF7's seem to tank in. A 9800GT would be good, but a Radeon HD4850 would be even better.


Mike Rowe said so, so go out and get a Hd4850 they can be had for as little as $150, even cheaper w/ MIR.
November 21, 2008 7:56:41 PM

+1 Frozen ! take a look at newegg and tigerdirect
November 21, 2008 8:14:33 PM

thanks for the quick answers.

so i should be getting the radeon hd4850 instead of the geforce 9800gt for sure? I just looked at this post http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/251911-15-radeon-hd...
and the 9800gt isnt even in the list, so does that mean that the 9800gt is worse than the cards in the graph?

Also i know a bunch of different manufactures make the cards. Which manufacturer's version of the card should i be getting, and does it really matter?
November 21, 2008 10:05:22 PM

A while ago I picked up a couple of HD4850's for an insaely cheap price, slapped on some Akasa dual slot cooler's and man the CF performance blew my mind, completly put to shame my good ol G92 core [8800gts 512]

I really need money now a days, so I had to sell them when one of my buddies offered to take them off my hands for much more than I paid for them, even after I told him how much i got them for. [I thank the Akasa dual slot cooler for that much].


But all in all the HD 4850 at $150 really cannot be beat. [I'm sure if you looked really hard you could find it for cheaper than that.]
November 21, 2008 10:33:25 PM

Personally, I wouldn't bother with the 9800GT, unless you're on a very tight budget.

I'd get the HD4850 (which I own and recommend). Otherwise, get the 9800GTX+. If you wanna step it up even further, get the HD4870 or the GTX260.

Just look at all the Crysis benchmarks and you'll see that even today's top card in CF or SLI barely get above 40fps with the settings on high. Unless that's the only game you want to play, don't worry too much about Crysis.
November 21, 2008 11:39:36 PM

kingtz said:
Personally, I wouldn't bother with the 9800GT, unless you're on a very tight budget.

I'd get the HD4850 (which I own and recommend). Otherwise, get the 9800GTX+. If you wanna step it up even further, get the HD4870 or the GTX260.

Just look at all the Crysis benchmarks and you'll see that even today's top card in CF or SLI barely get above 40fps with the settings on high. Unless that's the only game you want to play, don't worry too much about Crysis.


Crysis isnt really that important at all. I just remember going to a LAN party, and some guy had a core 2 duo, a cheap one, and i think the 8800 gt card, and he ran crysis ALOT better than my computer which kinda shocked me, so its kinda like revenge for me :D 
a b U Graphics card
November 22, 2008 1:19:54 AM

akhellbinder said:
Crysis isnt really that important at all. I just remember going to a LAN party, and some guy had a core 2 duo, a cheap one, and i think the 8800 gt card, and he ran crysis ALOT better than my computer which kinda shocked me, so its kinda like revenge for me :D 

No shock there... an 8800GT/9800GT is a huge step above your 7950GT and 6600 and should give 2-3 times the performance in Crysis. A 512MB 7900GT would not be far behind your 7950GT and look what the 8800GT does in comparison - http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=698&p=2
a b U Graphics card
November 22, 2008 1:28:49 AM

Just to clarify: if you prefer an NVidia card or don't want to spend $150 for the better HD4850, the 9800GT is outstanding for 1280x1024 gaming. The 4850 allows more headroom for cranking FSAA or for a new higher res monitor. But honestly, most games the 9800GT would do very well in, and with a little overclock it can handle high details in crysis at that res. In some GPU demanding levels like Paradise Lost, the single 8800GT will chug a little, but still be enough to play through at high settings.

DX10 very high won't happen even with high clocks: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-marathon,...
November 22, 2008 11:56:13 AM

I guess it's the HD4850 then. I took a look at some shops, and it only costs around 10% more than the 9800GT. The HD4870 is not an option however, since it costs almost twice as much as the HD4870, atleast where i have looked.

Which one of the HD4850 cards should i be getting then? You know, Gainward, Club3D, Point of View etc.
November 23, 2008 1:56:08 AM

akhellbinder said:
I guess it's the HD4850 then. I took a look at some shops, and it only costs around 10% more than the 9800GT. The HD4870 is not an option however, since it costs almost twice as much as the HD4870, atleast where i have looked.

Which one of the HD4850 cards should i be getting then? You know, Gainward, Club3D, Point of View etc.


Simple!

Best value FTW!

See it's like this: You have lots of different brands etc., etc., etc., now all you need to do is figure out which is the cheapest but still has good customer service/honoring warranties. I should also throw out there, that a dual-slot cooler is a much more ideal cooling solution than a single slot cooler. I take it you live in the UK, so most of the brands you mentioned are not even offered here in the states, also I assume you can't buy form newegg.com. So how you want to go about it is up to you.

Good luck, and good night!
a b U Graphics card
November 23, 2008 9:23:27 AM

thats sweet. winning a c2q-extreme.

+1 for the hd4850, (get the HIS iceq varation or the gainward/palit sonic version if its available)

but that blackpower PSU, is that even reliable?
November 23, 2008 9:43:14 AM

The blackpower is reliable, its mostly dependent on the brand that you pick out really.
Seasonic for one is quiet reliable. :p 
November 23, 2008 10:06:37 AM

akhellbinder said:
thanks for the quick answers.

Also i know a bunch of different manufactures make the cards. Which manufacturer's version of the card should i be getting, and does it really matter?



I would say the only difference in card manufacturers that is REALLY going to matter is cooling.

Here's two examples of the same card with different cooling options;





'nuff said.
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