AMD, CES and what you did not read by the reporters

ok guys this has bugged me for over week since i came back from CES:

When you arrive at CES at the center of the 3 main buildings there are huge flying amd banners - with a dragon. Throughout the show you find very nice fold out brochures with a dragon on them. very nice?

it says in front: "Fusing technolgy with STRENGTH ...FUSION" "DRAGON" (<THEY STOLE THAT FROM ME)


what do you find? well the spider is dead (by spider RIP) and dragon is new - ok? Lets face it AMD is very desperate, then again so is Intel since they cut prices today. Yes, even Intel's profits crashed by almost 90%


When you unfold this very nice dragon brochure you find a chart, a chart of the new phenom II - while it is hard for me to show in words, what the chart shows. The chart says in graphs that amd matches the performance of the new i7 cpu speed.

Amazingly systems we shipped at 3.8-4.3ghz before CES match perfect to the new AMD dragon platform accpet we used an intel cpu and amd cpu's do not run over 4ghz.

NOTE: shows the amd 940, speed shows air cooling to 3.7ghz and 3.9 .... to what look like 5GHZ water cooling


Wait? i7 and amd? chart of what? yes a chart of amd water cooling performance going about above 4ghz. I swear this is an exact copy of the acutal i7 perfromance with amd 940 slapped on it.

The AMD dragon brochure of phenom II shows a graph of air cooling up to 4ghz and then water cooling to 4.5ghz. AMD cpu's do not run this speed but it is a perfect match to out i7 systems!

When i went to google up the chart to paste on a thread i could not find it? Well i have the brochure from CES in my had that clearly show the phonom II reaches 4.3-4.5ghz on water?

ok once again this is all in fun, but absolutely true - i will paste photos of the brochure later if requested by the poll. and only by the poll

finally, why would amd kill spider? spider was cool - now a new dragon platform and fusion? AMD seems to have totally lost it.

The fold out brochure, has a graph for performance showing the phenom I and II

The graph clearly, shows phenom in red topping at 3.15ghz, then

it shows phenom II in purple the bar graph turns into an arrow at 5ghz

at 3.8-3.9ghz is slpit of air cooling below 3.8ghz and water cooling at above 3.9ghz

we all know that phenom II does not run 4ghz

AGAIN I CAN NOT FIND A COPY OF THIS GRAPH ON THE NET - this was a a fold out for fusion and dragon plateform.

the graph is an exact copy of i7 performance, at 3.8-3.9ghz is about the max for air coolingr and above that on water 4.5ghz plus by our tests.

i shoot a photo with my camera tomorrow and post it.

while the poll is meant to funny dumb

the post is real

i can not find this graph anywhere and i am telling you its an i7 graph put on the amd fold out brochure - this is really really cheap move by amd for CES

the penom is at 3.15ghz and the phenom ii goest to 4.5+ plus





above is hard to read but you can see the 4 ghz and 3ghz and the red is the phenom stopping at the correct 3.15ghz and the "cheater" phenom ii marketing
this guy should be fired that did this

below talks about headroon and overclocking like they copied it from intel builder (like me lol!)








i just hate cheaters always have - its like amd has to cheat to compete - unless i missed something and phenom ii runs to 4.5+ghz

they do have some similarities lol. it would be interesting to post pics of the Intel charts on here for a stare and compare.

It doesnt say anywhere that it goes to 4.5ghz. The picture is blurry but i am pretty sure that the graph only goes to 4.0ghz. Just because the arrow goes higher doesnt mean they are saying it can achieve 4.5ghz.

looks like 4.8ghz at the tip and even higher according to amd

my results tell me even with really high voltage 3.6-3.8ghz is max

you are extrapolating 4.8 just because of the lenght of the arrow. there is a reason the graph ends at 4.0. The arrow is just for dramatic effect, and besides there is an asterisk anyways.

I've seen reviews from many sites that reached 4ghz on air and I wouldnt doubt it going to over 4 with water cooling. I just think you are making too much out of it and assuming they are saying it can go to 4.5.

That mock up graph/chart is over 2 months old. It was posted on this site in a very lengthy thread....2 months ago.

None of this is anything new, none of it.

lol!

fogot about that ..ya the old 2800+ = 2.8ghz plus

now we got the number amd keeps copy intel's numbers

i7 940 or phenom II 940

we all know we need amd or we all be paying $1000 for intel or ibm amd or woarse a samsung

speaking of sansung i switched to samsung hdd since they are faster the f1 is fast and stupid seagate change the platic on the drives so the locking sata cables fall off in shipping

how stupid is that!

rofl...when i checked the link i realized i was rereading the post as i recoginized many of the responses instantly. very well put and point made spathotan.

Actually the PR for AMD is not ver "Intelish". They have been this way since their break away hit with A64. Don't remember the Barcy claims of purley awesome performance? Thats the same PR. And they over hype their products.

Most companies do. In fact almost every company I know does.

Anywho, good enough is for those who are more simple PC users. For me, and most enthusiasts, we want better than good enough. We want an amazing jump. Like from Pentium D to Core 2.