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October 28, 2008 12:38:05 AM

hello everyone , I posted a few months ago a topic in help deciding how to build my pc but i was having some problems with $$$ , now i think i can buy my pc better than the other one i was thinking in buying :D 

well here are the spec ..
-Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
-ZALMAN ZM-MFC1 Fan Controller Panel
-Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB
-Acer P243WAid Black-Silver 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP Support
-HIS Hightech H487F1GP Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
-Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
-OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 with timings 4-4-4-12
-ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48
-XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm
-XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket
-CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
-Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz Oc to 3.6 if i can
- AeroCool Streamliner-Black 140mm Blue LED Case Fan (i will use this one instead than the 140mm that comes with the antec 1200)

all this for $1645, actually my budget is $1600 but i think i can save a little :) 

so what do u think????

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October 28, 2008 1:44:38 AM

ohh can i replaced the 120mm fan that comes with the xigmateck hdt-s1283 and put a blue 120mm led fan?? because i dont like how it looks..
will the temps are going to get higher if i put a led blue fan ????
October 28, 2008 2:01:59 AM

If you look at most games at 1900x1200 (24" LCD resolution) the 1gb model only scores a couple frames higher than the 512mb model:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/10/06/amd-ati-rad...

At 30" resolution, it does a little better vs the 512mb version.

I personally don't think it's worth $100 over the 512mb version. But since you're getting a CrossFire motherboard, the 1gb may be better as you can add another when price drop.

If you don't need the card RIGHT NOW, a 512mb with rebate can be had for $200 occasionally:
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=9...

This would also allow you to get a Q9550 (45nm, 12mb L2 cache).

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October 28, 2008 2:16:39 AM

but the 4870 1 gb is just like $40 more than the 512mb version, and im not using rebates because i dont live in USA and applying the rebates will make it to complicated for me :( .. but i will considered that thanks
and how about the Xigmateck??
October 28, 2008 2:32:53 AM

how about this :
all except
i take out the rampage formula and have a p5e and take out the corsair 750 and have the antec neo power650W
the 4870 512mb instead of the 1gb version
and having the q9550

the only problem is that i wont have the 48701 gb version and i heard it helps a lot in a resolution of 1920X1200

another thing will the q9550 make a huge difference .because i really want to have the 4870 1 gb version in my system :D 
October 28, 2008 8:52:24 PM

mmmm... :(  ....what if i just have the 4870 1gb and the q9550 but instead of the rampage u use the p5e they say is a very good mobo... ( i can afford to pay that)
October 28, 2008 9:24:05 PM

Why don't you save $165 from the Rampage and get the p45 based mobo, Asus p5q?? If your not going to do a serious X-fire setup, but still want some decent OC'ing the p45 based mobo's will do that quite well. Personally the x48/x38 are enthusiast mobo's and the p45's are more mainstream with a little extra, IMHO. So if your not going to do extreme OC's and aren't worried about a 8x X-fire setup, the p45's are the ticket! Then with the $165 savings you can still keep the key components that you like (q9550, 4870 1gb, Antec 1200, Acer 24" LCD, etc.). I'd still consider the CM 690 case I linked above, but if your set on the Antec 1200 (good case too) than just get it. I'd seriously consider the p45 for the cost benefit, unless your going for extreme's!! The Asus p5E is a good mobo too, so if you want to save the $100 over the Rampage than do it!! Almost any p45, x38, x48 mobo's will work just fine for 99% of builds, so your the one buying and deciding what works best for you.
October 28, 2008 9:33:16 PM

OK thanks i think i will buy the p5E :D  and how high can i overclock the q9550 with the xigmateck hdt-s1283???... and will the temps go high if i put a blue 120mm fan instead of the one that comes in the box ????
October 28, 2008 9:41:52 PM

I'm seeing about a 3.4-3.8 OC speed, depending on RAM, Mobo, & Cooling. The FSB will need to be above 400FSB in order to get over 3.4 ghz, so your memory will need to be able to go above 800mHz (400FSB x2) to go above the 3.4gHz (8.5 multiplier x 400FSB = 3.4 gHz). The Xigmatek is about as good as it gets for the $, IMHO. The LED's on fans really don't add much heat to the equation. The big deal is whether or not they are louder or if they cool more/less than the stock one. If you have time, I'd try both and see if you like one over the other, performance wise.
October 28, 2008 10:07:37 PM

ok thanks again ,

and i really dont know too much about changing things in the bios .
do i have to change anyting in cpu voltage to oc the cpu????

and i think the OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB 800mhz can overclcok easily , and do i have to change the any kind voltage??? and the 400 FSB that u´ve said is from the memory o what?

sorry for not knowing anyting:( 

October 28, 2008 10:35:24 PM

No problems with your ?'s, that is why we all are here to help each other out!! :) 
If your talking about this RAM:
OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
You will need to adjust the memory voltage up to 2.1v to get the said operating speeds of 4-4-4-15. Stock voltage is 1.8v and 99% of mobo's out there allow you some adjustments up to 2.2v usually. If you get the Asus p5E mobo, on page 4-21 of the mobo manual it states that you'll be able to adjust the memory voltage from 1.8v - 2.66v in 0.02v intervals!!! That is one good thing about enthusiast mobo's!! Lots of adjustments!
Normally you don't need too much CPU voltage adjustments when doing mild OC's on CPU's. I'm sure your going to need to make some, but to what extent, I don't know.
The FSB will need to be adjusted to reach your given CPU speed that your looking for. I would thoroughly read your mobo manual before making any adjustments.
October 28, 2008 10:40:45 PM

ok thanks a lot :) 
October 28, 2008 10:48:36 PM

ooh i forgot
if i install a win vista ultimate 64 bit service pack 1 will reduce performance??
or should i installed home premium 64 bits , because a friend has 1 license left of a vista ultimate 64 bits with service pack :)  but i think the ultimate will reduce performance ...am i right ?????
October 28, 2008 11:07:16 PM

Not sure if the Ultimate will reduce performance. You might want to do some research on that, but I'm not sure what performance your talking about??
October 28, 2008 11:12:03 PM

yea like when vista first came out people said it was to bad for games . people were having more fps in games with xp than with vista... .

.. lets say with home premium i get 100-105fps in cod4 and with ultimate i get 96-100 fps
do i make myself clear?
October 29, 2008 12:39:24 AM

Yeah I understand what your saying. I believe most of those issues have been resolved in Vista vs. XP. I've read somewhere that it's pretty much even, if not favoring Vista over XP, nowadays. I'll have to see if I can find that link again :(  I haven't heard/read any issues between premium and Ultimate, but I know Premium has less features and maybe Ultimate is hogging resources more than the Premium version. IDK for sure, but that would make sense to me.
October 29, 2008 3:02:30 AM

i think ill go with ultimate
i just have one question

if i want to Oc my q9550 to 3.8 first i have to change the cpu v core and mmm... lets say to 1.3v and memorya ram to 2.4

then i change the ram 800 mhz (but isnt the bios recognizing the 800mhz???)

and here is what i dont understand
to overclock the memory i just have to change the memory voltage and change to 800mhz...and what if i want to get 1066mhz instead of 800mhz how do i do that?????

then if i want to go to 3.8 i have to change the fsb to 447mhz

so 447 X 8.5 = 3.8ghz

and i think thats how you doi it right??
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