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October 28, 2008 5:10:46 PM

Hi

Im about to build my new rig and what i need from you guys are brief cons and pros of this setup. I will really appreciate your good(right) opinions.

This rig will be mainly use for hard core gaming and then for the common use. I know i cant build a high end rig and its caused by small budget. I am able to budget in the range of 1.5k-1.8k(max).

Im also concern about the psu watts, even when i checked couple psu calculators im still not sure which one would fit perfectly. I want my parts to use their full potencial. Currently i own new 650watts from antec, but i think it might be not enough for this rig, then if not i will have to invest in psu also. Again less money for the rig is better for me, but i want something that will last for couple good years with maybe minor upgrades, so youve got my range.

In advance i want to thank everybody for their brief cons+pros opinions and for the conclusion just please say if the parts that i want to use will DO. Also i heard that in November intel will release i7 is that mean that i should wait like a month so the price should go down for the mobo and pcu or no???

My specification:
pcu:
Q9550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mobo:
maximus formula II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131319
vga:
asus 4870 X2 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram:
corsair dominator 4gb SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
psu:
still looking~~any suggestions

ps. also for the moment of purchase i wont over clock but in the future why not.
hmm... i dont think if i missed something... oh yeaa i currently own wd150 raptor so i might buy another one just to set the to RAID o what you think??

ps. should i bother with RAID 0 cuz i never had this configuration and i dunno if its worth it.

Again thank you very much

Regards

ketrab*

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October 28, 2008 5:22:59 PM

so far the total amount is about 1.5k so ive got about $300 more to spend

thx.
October 28, 2008 6:42:35 PM

anybody :( 
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October 28, 2008 7:04:31 PM

if this rig is for Gaming, i'd simply get the E8600 and OC the mother out of it, you wont need Quad core... Plus, the E8600 has the newer E0 stepping and will perform a lil better than the older C0 stepping. This will save you a little more $$$

RAM seems good, i'd stick with that... So is the MoBo, that's a solid MoBo...

the 4870 X 2 is the best single card solution out there so stick with that, i forget off hand if this MoBo supports X-Fire or SLI, but if it's X-Fire, just save that extra $$$ and then save up a little more for another 4870 X 2!!!

October 28, 2008 7:19:34 PM

nah i would rather stick with quad since im thinking about future also e8600 has only 6mb on cache

also im wondering if i could use xp 64 on this rig or i should go with vista??
October 28, 2008 7:20:43 PM

yea and what about psu will my 650 fit it?
October 28, 2008 7:24:21 PM

the 650 PSU from Antec will handle the 4870 X 2 no sweat, but it wouldnt be able to handle two of them at the same time...

As for the OS, go with Vista 64
October 28, 2008 7:37:05 PM

jonpaul37 said:
the 650 PSU from Antec will handle the 4870 X 2 no sweat, but it wouldnt be able to handle two of them at the same time...

As for the OS, go with Vista 64




ok it will handle vga but what about everything elso on the rig?
October 28, 2008 7:39:11 PM

750tx is a very nice psu or 1000hx
October 28, 2008 7:56:17 PM

what about the rams omar?
October 28, 2008 8:33:07 PM

Very nice build, I would just keep it the way you have it. Just make sure you have a good case to put it in and your set. Your psu will do just fine.

only thing i might think of is maybe getting a creative titanium sound card, but your mobo already has a very good one. if you don,t have a good case use the rest of the money to get a really good case.
October 28, 2008 8:35:53 PM

as for the price dropping I would not count on it happening any time soon even thou the are releasing the i7 the current cpu are still great and perform about the same as the i7 plus alot of people will still the the lattest cpu and make use of there 775 socket instead of getting a new socket. so i expect prices to remain the same fore a while
October 28, 2008 8:36:42 PM

jonpaul37 said:
if this rig is for Gaming, i'd simply get the E8600 and OC the mother out of it, you wont need Quad core... Plus, the E8600 has the newer E0 stepping and will perform a lil better than the older C0 stepping. This will save you a little more $$$

RAM seems good, i'd stick with that... So is the MoBo, that's a solid MoBo...

the 4870 X 2 is the best single card solution out there so stick with that, i forget off hand if this MoBo supports X-Fire or SLI, but if it's X-Fire, just save that extra $$$ and then save up a little more for another 4870 X 2!!!


That mobo is a P45. It supports Crossfire, but it's an incredibly silly way to do Crossfire. You pay $281 for a motherboard and get x8+x8 i.e. bottlenecks. It would suffer even with HD 4850 cards, let alone with HD 4870 X2 cards. Besides, a HD 4870 X2 Crossfire would need a 1000W PSU. I suggest getting a Asus P5Q Pro or GA-EP45-UD3P or GA-EP45-DS3R (all under $150).

+1 for the E8600, unless the OP plays FSX or rips DVDs often. For those things the Q9550 can only be beaten by a handful of CPUs that all cost hundreds more.

The RAM is good, yes, but DDR2-800 would do too and cost less. He doesn't sound like he's trying for an overcloking record anyway. He hasn't even added a CPU cooler to the list.
I like this one:
mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400), $47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146731

650W is a bit close for HD 4870X2, but it will do. If you intend to add TV tuners and lots of disks and fans and other cards then yes,it's worth investing in a Corsair 750TX ($100) or PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W ($110) or even Antec TPQ-850 ($140)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371009

I wouldn't do RAID 0 for a gaming machine. Also, a single Velociraptor 150GB is about as fast as RAID 0 with two old Raptors. I wouldn't buy an old Raptor these days.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296&Tpk=Raptor%20150GB
October 28, 2008 8:37:28 PM

Because you are on a budget, you can save a bunch.
At the level of the E8500 or Q9550, the vga card is much more important for gaming than the cpu.
At that level, overclocking is good for bragging, but it will not net you as much increase
in FPS as a better vga card will. Today, very few games can make use of more than two cores.
Flight simulator X and supreme commander are exceptions. It is not a trivial matter to code multi threaded programs,
and game vendors will not sell too many games that require quads to run.
I don't see this changing in the next couple of years.

Net: E8500 for the increased clock speed.

Also, nehalem will launch in November. That $320 Q9550 will look puny compared to the entry i7 920 2.66 at a similar price.

The motherboard will not perform any better than a good P45 motherboard at half the price.

The Antec 650w psu is ok for a single card, including the 4870X2. A quality psu with two pci-e connectors will be able to deliver full load to those connectors with enough left over for a typical system. Antec is a good unit, no worries there.

Vista is the only way to go 64 bit, and it is quite good.

The ram is good, but you will do just as well with DDR2-800 ram with average timings. The difference in gaming will not be noticeable---think < 1fps.

The raptor150 is good. The velociraptor is a bit better, but probably not worth it.
There is generally no real world(vs. synthetic transfer rate benchmarks) performance advantage to raid of any kind.
Go to www.storagereview.com at this link: http://faq.storagereview.com/tiki-index.php?page=Single...
There are some specific applications that will benefit, but
gaming is not one of them. Even if you have an application which reads one input file sequentially, and writes
it out, you will perform about as well by putting the input on one drive, and the output on the other.
With these suggestions, you will have some budget to spend. I would suggest getting a good 24" or larger monitor. It is the one true "future-Proof" purchase you can make today in the computer arena. You will be looking at it for a long time.
Keep your old monitor along side for e-mail, performance monitors,---etc.
---good luck---

October 28, 2008 8:39:50 PM

I forgot, what's up with the poll? What's "D" and "R" for???
October 28, 2008 8:52:26 PM

I found a poster who says this (I only fixed his spelling a bit):

Quote:
I just went from 2x Raptor 150's to 1x Velociraptor. It's definitely slower than the RAID array, but it is quieter.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=203533

According to the benchmarks, the average transfer rate of the Raptor 150 is about 84MB/s. That means 168 MB/s or so in RAID 0. The Velociraptor does 108 MB/s.
I guess you'd see a speed improvement too. Still, I don't like the idea of buying an old Raptor these days, unless you find a very good deal. Also keep in mind that RAID 0 needs more frequent backups.

October 28, 2008 8:53:44 PM

ketrab said:
Hi

Im about to build my new rig and what i need from you guys are brief cons and pros of this setup. I will really appreciate your good(right) opinions.

This rig will be mainly use for hard core gaming and then for the common use. I know i cant build a high end rig and its caused by small budget. I am able to budget in the range of 1.5k-1.8k(max).

Im also concern about the psu watts, even when i checked couple psu calculators im still not sure which one would fit perfectly. I want my parts to use their full potencial. Currently i own new 650watts from antec, but i think it might be not enough for this rig, then if not i will have to invest in psu also. Again less money for the rig is better for me, but i want something that will last for couple good years with maybe minor upgrades, so youve got my range.

In advance i want to thank everybody for their brief cons+pros opinions and for the conclusion just please say if the parts that i want to use will DO. Also i heard that in November intel will release i7 is that mean that i should wait like a month so the price should go down for the mobo and pcu or no???

My specification:
pcu:
Q9550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mobo:
maximus formula II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131319
vga:
asus 4870 X2 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram:
corsair dominator 4gb SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
psu:
still looking~~any suggestions

ps. also for the moment of purchase i wont over clock but in the future why not.
hmm... i dont think if i missed something... oh yeaa i currently own wd150 raptor so i might buy another one just to set the to RAID o what you think??

ps. should i bother with RAID 0 cuz i never had this configuration and i dunno if its worth it.

Again thank you very much

Regards

ketrab*


I just finish a build with same CPU & Motherboard, but used G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail $69.99 plus Free 3 Business Day Shipping.
New DDR2 800 CL4 @ 1.8v Your Price: $64.99 After $5.00 Promo CodeEMCBACJCJ until 11/03/08.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209
Which Asus has in its QVL Ram list for motherboard.

Next I would advise you to get an aftermarket HSF. The XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail $36.99 and has Free 3 Business Day Shipping is a very good choice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

Plus also get the XIGMATEK ACK-I7751 Retention Bracket - Retail $6.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233019
which will allow you to connect it better then the stock hsf push/pin connections.

I do not see any mention of Case or DVD/Burner, so I am assuming you already have those. If not then here are my choices.

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $109.99 plus Free 3 Business Day Shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F - OEM $24.99 plus Free 3 Business Day Shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151171

You will also need some Thermal Compound. I use OCZ OCZTFRZTC Freeze Extreme Thermal Conductivity Compound - Retail $6.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835202006
IMHO it is as good as or better then Artic Silver, since it cures in 30 mins compared to 20hrs for Artic Silver.

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail $119.99 plus ($99.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) and Free 3 Business Day Shipping.
Additional 15% off w/ promo code "esave15", ends 10/29
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

Now if you decide to wait for the new Intel Nehalem i7 cpu, X58 motherboard and Tri Channel DDR3 RAN. Here are estimate cost of above 3 items.

Core i7 cpu > 2.83ghz ........$290.00
Asus P6T Deluxe ................ $350.. to 400..
Tri Channel DDR3 ...... So that means 3GB or 6GB of RAM in total, which range in price from $120 for the 3GB 1333MHz kit up to $475 for the 6GB 1866MHz Dominator kit (with airflow fan).

Hope this helps you out. Plus if you go for the Asus Maximus II Formula motherboard, make sure you install sound card in top black 1x slot. Also you will be further ahead to get (2) 640gb HDD orf either WD or Seagate then the WD150 Raptor (which runs at 1.5ghz speed) compared to 3.0ghz speed of Sata II HDD's, plus you save money.


October 29, 2008 1:10:51 AM

aevm said:
I forgot, what's up with the poll? What's "D" and "R" for???



Democratic


Republican

lol
October 29, 2008 1:15:35 AM

Yoosty said:
Now if you decide to wait for the new Intel Nehalem i7 cpu, X58 motherboard and Tri Channel DDR3 RAN. Here are estimate cost of above 3 items.

Core i7 cpu > 2.83ghz ........$290.00
Asus P6T Deluxe ................ $350.. to 400..
Tri Channel DDR3 ...... So that means 3GB or 6GB of RAM in total, which range in price from $120 for the 3GB 1333MHz kit up to $475 for the 6GB 1866MHz Dominator kit (with airflow fan).



are we going to have a significant difference let say q9550 vs i7 or just by the little bit

also i heard that there is something wrong with that memory--- like that it might kill your core etc.... what this is all about... and yea again would it be worth to wait.


ps. guys i truly thank you for all these comments.... thx
October 29, 2008 2:25:25 AM

If you get DDR2-1000 or DDR2-1066 check if it works with your motherboard. I'm not sure what motherboard you're going with. Pick a motherboard first, then you can check. For example that G-SKill in your second link (the one that isn't broken, that is :)  ) works with the GA-EP45-UD3P.

I like your "small budget", which includes Q9550, a $300 MB, and the best video card on the market :) 

Oops, I should have figured out the "D" and "R". I'm Canadian, no vote for me. Anyway, I expect an improvement either way.


October 29, 2008 2:43:23 AM

aevm said:
If you get DDR2-1000 or DDR2-1066 check if it works with your motherboard. I'm not sure what motherboard you're going with. Pick a motherboard first, then you can check. For example that G-SKill in your second link (the one that isn't broken, that is :)  ) works with the GA-EP45-UD3P.

I like your "small budget", which includes Q9550, a $300 MB, and the best video card on the market :) 

Oops, I should have figured out the "D" and "R". I'm Canadian, no vote for me. Anyway, I expect an improvement either way.



thanks again aevn and everybody else now i have nice visual what to do

:p 
October 29, 2008 2:45:39 AM

Quote:
If Im not mistaken, your mobo is only compatible with DDR2 PC2 9600 RAM which is 1200 mhz. There aren't many out there but this is probably the best one in newegg....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Nice build!


**** lol now another guy forced me to think about rams again... dont you think i will need 4gb ??

hmm... its still cheaper 160 for 4 gb but i will run out of ram space :/ 
October 29, 2008 3:06:41 AM

now u guys made me confused where i see 4 nice rams and dunno which one to pick

1.CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Where you get 5 instant and 40 mail in rebate = 79 free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197
2.G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
30 instant free shipping = 69,99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209
3.G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000)
30 instant free shipping = 64,99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145
4.Patriot Viper 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1200 (PC2 9600)
79,99 + 7 for the shipping, also 2x1gb dunno about this one but best out there for my MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220348

also for the reminder my mobo would be formula II

:/ 
October 29, 2008 3:46:28 AM

I'd go with this one:
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197

You get a $25 combo with the MB too, which makes the price 124 -5 instant -40 mail rebate -25 combo +0 shipping = $54. Hard to beat that.

I liked this comment from a reviewer of the Maximus II Formula:

Quote:
Pros: Overclocks like mad :)  q9550 @ 3.6 cool at 1.26v. Could go higher but no need, humm ok maybe a bit higher ;)  so many bios tweaks dont know what to do with half of them. Looks good too.

Cons: Got mine with bad bios battery drove me nuts cold boot issues as a result. If you get cold boot prob check batt anything less than 3.0 volts replace.Didnt buy its self.Now I have to buy a 4870 too.

Other Thoughts: Goodies in this build ASUS MAXIMUS II,ZALMAN CNPS9700 ,Q9550 cpu, CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB 8500c5df,themaltake shark case,xfx 8800gts 512,over clocked with riva tuner,700w toughpower psu, got 15100 pc marks in 3dmark 06 way to go. Got it all here New egg has been great to me for the past 5 years :) 
October 29, 2008 3:52:02 AM

Just stick with the DDR2 800 G.Skill RAM. The speed difference is not noticeable with RAM above DDR2 800 and it causes more potential problems because of the higher voltage and less compatibility. Just because a motherboard says it can handle DDR2 1200 RAM doesn't mean you have to get it. :)  That's just an indication of a quality motherboard that has some overclocking headroom.

You want 4GB and a 64-bit OS for sure.
October 29, 2008 10:33:39 AM

The main reason to get the G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory, is that its stock Ram voltage is 1.8/1.9v.

Brand G.SKILL
Series PI Black
Model F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI-B
Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Speed DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Cas Latency 4
Timing 4-4-4-12
Voltage 1.8V - 1.9V

$69.99 Your Price: $64.99 After $5.00 Promo CodeEMCBACJCJ
Free 3 Business Day Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209

Also use the Promo code from this NewEgg newsletter below.
http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Oct-0-2008/FreeShipping28/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL102808&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL102808-_-email-_-E0-_-PromoWording&cm_lm=badyoosty@hotmail.com

Here is the QVL for Ram for the Maximus II, link below.
http://www.asus.com/999/download/products/2166/2166_10.pdf

The one thing to remember is that most 775 chipset motherboards, Ram stock voltage is 1.8v. The CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB minimum voltage is 2.1v... But the choice is yours. which ram to get.

Here is link to Asus forum board on the Maximus II Formula.
http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&model=Maximus+II+Formula&SLanguage=en-us

Plus if you are still getting that motherboard from NewEgg, it comes with the 901 bios installed and there is only 1 newer bios update (1307) for motherboard. Also if you are still betting the Q9550 from NewEgg is stepping for the cpu is the EO stepping.

Like I mention in my earlier post, I just got done with my current build using the Maximus II Formula, Q9550 and using the G.Skill PI series ram (G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB), but I went with 8gb instead). It is a sweetest build I have done lately.

October 29, 2008 11:16:26 AM

Some good suggestions there but i agree with the guys who suggest dropping that mobo and that Q9550.

Youve got to get an E8600 EO revision; the area where quad core is an advantage is very small at the moment and you are not gonna be utilizing all those cores.

The original mobo you chose has some very disappointing reviews but for the same price you can get an ASUS Rampage Extreme or Rampage Formula which both have excellent reviews and unbeatable performance.

You need to make the right decision here, the brains and nervous system of your new pc are the most important to get right and the most expensive if you make the wrong choice; definately go with the Rampage and the E8600 EO and youll be happy you did.
October 29, 2008 12:00:19 PM

Before you decide which board you are going for make sure you read a few independent reviews its an absolute must with ASUS. Because ASUS sell more mobo`s and have more variety than anyone else, they tend to have a lot of problems just check out Yoosty`s Maximus II forum link to see the amount of problems.

So its essential you check out the reviews and lab tests for the board you decide get, its something ive been doing before i buy anything because i got bitten a couple of times listening to other peoples recomendations but now i know better as will you.
October 29, 2008 4:30:18 PM

aevm said:
I'd go with this one:
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197

You get a $25 combo with the MB too, which makes the price 124 -5 instant -40 mail rebate -25 combo +0 shipping = $54. Hard to beat that.

I liked this comment from a reviewer of the Maximus II Formula:

Quote:
Pros: Overclocks like mad :)  q9550 @ 3.6 cool at 1.26v. Could go higher but no need, humm ok maybe a bit higher ;)  so many bios tweaks dont know what to do with half of them. Looks good too.

Cons: Got mine with bad bios battery drove me nuts cold boot issues as a result. If you get cold boot prob check batt anything less than 3.0 volts replace.Didnt buy its self.Now I have to buy a 4870 too.

Other Thoughts: Goodies in this build ASUS MAXIMUS II,ZALMAN CNPS9700 ,Q9550 cpu, CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB 8500c5df,themaltake shark case,xfx 8800gts 512,over clocked with riva tuner,700w toughpower psu, got 15100 pc marks in 3dmark 06 way to go. Got it all here New egg has been great to me for the past 5 years :) 



aevm

do you think im gonna have voltage problems with these babies or should be good. Since they are for 79 1066 same price as g.skills + i like the design of corsair :p 
October 29, 2008 4:43:53 PM

For any ram you are considering, do your own homework. Go to the ram vendor's web site, and access their configurator. Corsair, Kingston, Patriot, OCZ and others have them. Their compatibility list is more current than the motherboard vendor's QVL lists which rarely get updated. Enter your mobo, and get a list of compatible ram sticks.
Core 2 cpu's are not very sensitive to ram speeds. If you look at real application and game benchmarks(vs. synthetic tests), you will see negligible difference in performance between the slowest and fastest ram. Perhaps 1-2%. Not worth it to me. Don't pay extra for faster ram or better timings unless you are a maximum overclocker.
October 29, 2008 5:05:21 PM

geofelt said:
For any ram you are considering, do your own homework. Go to the ram vendor's web site, and access their configurator. Corsair, Kingston, Patriot, OCZ and others have them. Their compatibility list is more current than the motherboard vendor's QVL lists which rarely get updated. Enter your mobo, and get a list of compatible ram sticks.
Core 2 cpu's are not very sensitive to ram speeds. If you look at real application and game benchmarks(vs. synthetic tests), you will see negligible difference in performance between the slowest and fastest ram. Perhaps 1-2%. Not worth it to me. Don't pay extra for faster ram or better timings unless you are a maximum overclocker.



geo

im also looking for a quality brand cuz i know corsair for a long time and with the g. skill never heard about them, they might be good also but let say looking at both companies now (see like two post up) where corsair has the promo now 4gb for the same price as for those from g.skill. what im looking for now is the quality from ill be happy for a long time :p 

thx for the comment
October 29, 2008 5:13:50 PM

ketrab said:
aevm

do you think im gonna have voltage problems with these babies or should be good. Since they are for 79 1066 same price as g.skills + i like the design of corsair :p 


They worked for that guy at newegg, with the same motherboard you're buying. Too bad he was too lazy to write his timings and voltages in the review. You're going to have to experiment a bit.

G.Skill is reliable, no worries there.



October 29, 2008 5:24:23 PM

aevm said:
They worked for that guy at newegg, with the same motherboard you're buying. Too bad he was too lazy to write his timings and voltages in the review. You're going to have to experiment a bit.

G.Skill is reliable, no worries there.



i just checked corsair website and their suggestion is the pick for these babies

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145194&Tpk=TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX

lol im starting to have a headache... i just want to pick the best out there for the price :/ 
October 30, 2008 7:33:06 PM




Last question guys ..... should i go with performance and do xp pro/sp3 or go with vista.... give me all the pros and cons plus i really dont care much about how vista looks vs xp.

thx
October 30, 2008 8:21:49 PM

First of all, if you go with XP you have to go with XP 32-bit, because the 64-bit version has compatibility problems. Your best choices are:

1. XP SP3 32-bit
2. Vista Home Premium 64-bit

Advantages for (2):

With Vista 64 you get to see 4 GB of RAM. With XP 32 you might see only 2 GB or somewhere around that because the HD 4870 X2 has 2GB of its own and needs address space for it.
With Vista some of your games will look better (DirectX 10).
With Vista your security patches and bug fixes will keep coming until 2014 or whatever. No guarantees of the sort for XP. XP has already had a longer life-cycle than Microsoft had planned.

Advantages for (1):
You don't have to learn the Vista GUI
Some things may be faster, depending on what programs you run
Better compatibility with older devices

I'd pick Vista.



October 30, 2008 8:28:40 PM

once again ur da best thank you very much.... take care
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